Turn your son in knowing it’s the death penalty?

[TaupeLemur]

Kirk’s killer has apparently been turned in by his family - or persuaded to hand himself in.
Trump &’his supporters have been very vocal about getting the death penalty for the shooter.

would YOU hand your child over, knowing that the electric chair would be the likely outcome?

YANBU - I wouldn’t turn him in to die.

YABU - I would he’s a killer and deserves all he gets

Thanks for this. I have no knowledge of US law and it's interesting to read peoples views.

What an awful thing to say. He was their father FFS !! He was murdered for his beliefs - whether we align ourselves with those beliefs or not, the second we start to condone that, free speech is dead and gone.

If all evidence is a definite that's him and he admits it, why shouldn't it be a death penalty?

Because in a civilised society we have a trial first before deciding the sentence??

I am opposed to the death sentence, but even if I were not, I would like to see the trial and the motivation before coming to a decision about sentences. 22 year olds are not generally motivated to planned murder, even in a society which worships the right to carry and use guns.

Was going to say this, I’m always surprised at them taking plea deals for whole life sentences instead of death penalty. I’d rather die but I think the conditions for death sentence prisoners are even worse and they will likely spend decades waiting on death row before they even die, if they don’t die first.

I’m against the death penalty in all circumstances so no, I would not be turning him in.

So you’d hide him despite being an assassin? Absolutely disgusting.

Do you think it’s preferable for them to have witnessed their father’s murder and be left with the trauma of it all? Not to mention possibly one day knowing so many people were happy about his death… just so they can hopefully one day get a new dad?

That's just the kind of emotive garbage no one should post. He's an adult who has very likely been radicalised by something his parents have no control over. He's 22, not 15.

I'm not voting on this thread because I can't agree with either of the options the OP has applied. I fundamentally disagree with the death penalty though. Fact is this man is now a walking target whatever happens.

Kirk said its OK for some people to be murdered every year by being shot. He said its a price worth paying to ensure that the 2nd amendment is safe and sound (paraphrasing)

I'm guessing "be careful what you wish for" fits well here

No, I wouldn't hand my son in because he assassinated Kirk

Awful thing to say.

It's like an ethics 101 question isn't it ?

Your child has killed someone in cold blood, they have forensically planned it, it wasn't an accident, it wasn't due to a moment of madness ( although I am sure madness will come in to it, possibly radicalised on-line ) and they have told you they did it.
If you hand them over to the police there is a chance they will face the firing squad at some point in the future, or at the very least a very long period of time in prison.
If you don't hand them over there is a chance that more deaths may occur, maybe theirs , maybe yours, maybe other family members, maybe other innocent parties ? If you don't hand them over they will be caught anyway at some point in the very near future. Do you just sit it out and wait for the inevitable ?

Has his father handed him in for the $100K reward?

Utterly gross. How do you live with yourself, thinking it's OK to murder someone because they're saying things you don't agree with.

Because giving the state the right to kill citizens it deems deserve it is very dangerous. All it takes is for the boundaries of who deserves it to change and you have a big problem. The leap from getting rid of murderers to (eg) solving the welfare bill issue is not as big as you'd think. And that is before we even start on the possibility of a miscarriage of justice. You can't resurrect someone, you can let them out of prison, although of course their life will be in bits.

I don't know about where else, but The Times has certainly reported at 3pm this afternoon that the Governor of Utah is reported as saying:

"Robinson had spoken to family members about Charlie Kirk coming to Utah Valley University and had described the conservative influencer as being “full of hate”, according to [the Governor]."

https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/tyler-robinson-suspect-charlie-kirk-shooter-assassin-latest-news-tg0twgh9m

Yes, what a legacy for those children. Daddy died because of the very right he wanted to protect.

What do you mean?

But he was brought up around guns his whole life. It's always the same type of parents who buy their 9 year old a gun as a birthday present that then ends with them doing something like this.

Yup. And Maga can't or won't understand this, so they will probably/possibly start a civil war.

I very much doubt it. He's handed him in because it's the right and sensible thing to do to protect him and the rest of the family.

According to the New York Post the probable cause affidavit released today states the charge to be aggravated murder among other state charges. They report that this will allow prosecutors to seek the death penalty. Utah hasn’t executed anyone since 1977 and aggravated murder, although eligible for the death penalty, has been previously charged as a non-capital first-degree felony, with prosecutors seeking life sentences without the possibility of parole, or a minimum sentence of 25 years. Apparently prosecutors have to specify the death penalty in the event of a conviction.

I'd say more the type of gun.

Isn't every first murder out of character, though?

Would you hand your own child in specifically for the reward, or would you think it the right thing to do ?

I agree.