Turn your son in knowing it’s the death penalty?

[TaupeLemur]

Kirk’s killer has apparently been turned in by his family - or persuaded to hand himself in.
Trump &’his supporters have been very vocal about getting the death penalty for the shooter.

would YOU hand your child over, knowing that the electric chair would be the likely outcome?

YANBU - I wouldn’t turn him in to die.

YABU - I would he’s a killer and deserves all he gets

No. The death penalty is a backward, medieval form of punishment and we are better than that. I will never have anything to do with supporting the death penalty.

Just because Trump wants him to get the death penalty doesn’t mean it will happen. He made a very intentional decision to kill someone’s whose political opinion he disagreed with. What’s to stop him from repeating the act if he isn’t imprisoned?

I think the death penalty is barbaric - state-sanctioned murder. But murder is murder - whoever assassinated Charlie Kirk is a murderer, and it was a heinous crime.

I probably disagree with almost everything Charles Kirk stood for, but murder is just wrong. As is the death penalty.

This is probably the most morally bankrupt thing I’ve ever seen anyone say on this site. Being a cold-blooded murderer isn’t something terrible to you, if the victim was someone you didn’t like or found abhorrent.

”I don’t agree with what he did” - you don’t condemn what he did, either. You don’t think it’s really that bad, because, hey, the victim was only that nasty Charlie Kirk, and it’s okay to play judge, jury and executioner if it’s one of those people. Who…talked on college campuses saying things you vehemently disagreed with.

I find you abhorrent, but I sure as fuck would still think anyone who murdered you was “something terrible.” I wouldn’t say wishy-washy bullshit about, “Well, I don’t agree with what Dearnurse’s killer did, but it’s not like s/he did something terrible like kill a child.” I’d feel sorry for your family and pray for them and hope your killer met justice. I’d think your death was a tragedy and an outrage.

And you say all this and still think you’re morally superior to Charlie Kirk. Good God.

Anti-abortionists don't value human lives. They're happy for women to die as a result of pregnancy complications. There is no such thing as 'pro life', only 'pro controlling women'.

For this? Absolutely not.

If it was something else - ie child abuse - then absolutely yes.

I fundamentally disagree with the death penalty, but if my child had committed murder, then they need to face whatever judicial system we live in.

The people wouldn't hand them in...are you also the people who refuse to allow your kids to go to detention and phone their teachers to shout at them?

Lethal injection, US style, seems to be one of the most barbaric forms of killing. They have had it go wrong so many times, leaving people in agony for a long, long time on the gurney.

As for the original question: Never in a million years.

Why not for this but you would for child abuse?

So suicide by cop then ?

Oh, think we know why.

That’s a massive false equivalence. Those who say they wouldn’t hand them in have been clear that was in the case of the death penalty. They would hand them in for life imprisonment. The death penalty isn’t a deterrent and can reduce the chance of justice being served.

We don’t have a motive yet.

He killed the father of a 3 year old and 1 year old. They now have to grow up without a dad, knowing their dad was murdered.
His parents have lost their son, his wife has lost her husband.
How on earth can you think murder isn't "something terrible".

If they wanted to give my child the death penalty during detention then I would not send them to detention either.

Was trying to give that poster the benefit of the doubt and hope they weren’t actually saying what I thought they were saying

Not handing them in doesn’t allow justice to be served either. What about justice for the victim, and their family ? This person deliberately and cold bloodedly took a life because they didn’t agree with the viewpoint of the person they killed. That’s unhinged, as is the notion that anyone would be prepared to allow them to walk free knowing what a huge danger they posed to others.

Excellent point.

I think it’s awful that he was murdered, but those little girls may now have the chance to be raised by someone who might show compassion, love and tolerance, rather than someone who publicly insists that if they are raped as 10 year olds he’s forcing them to give birth to that rape baby.

🤣🤣🤣

Because they’re not pro lifers. It’s about controlling women. They’re only concerned about preventing the pregnancy being terminated - they couldn’t give a shiny shite what happens to the child after it’s born.

Absolutely not for this.

Where are people reading that a motive has been determined.

It sounds like the dad reached out a church leader and they're the ones that turned him in?

I don't think it was easy decision for the parents - but equally if you didn't and your child went on to kill again where do you draw the line? Especially as the chance of death penalty will increase with every murder

I think because of the press conference with the FBI etc - they told us what the killer had said about CK and what was written on the bullets. It seems logical that he killed him because of his beliefs.