Turn your son in knowing it’s the death penalty?

[TaupeLemur]

Kirk’s killer has apparently been turned in by his family - or persuaded to hand himself in.
Trump &’his supporters have been very vocal about getting the death penalty for the shooter.

would YOU hand your child over, knowing that the electric chair would be the likely outcome?

YANBU - I wouldn’t turn him in to die.

YABU - I would he’s a killer and deserves all he gets

His family have said he said it during a recent family dinner I believe

What would you define as left wing then?

Hopefully Kirks killer will get everything that's coming to him. He made a conscious decision to kill someone, so now he has to accept the consequences.

They seem politically aligned so that’s interesting.

Because the parade of far right idiots currently in charge are doing such a stellar job? Hah

This.

They have lethal injection. Firing squad is a personal choice.

In a case like this if you don't hand them over then there's a chance they could be killed at any moment, whether by suicide or by someone elses bullet.
He was Americas most wanted, how long do you think you would be able to help him evade capture for?

Love this. I agree with others facing their sins but not my own child. Bet there’s plenty more you(‘d) let them get away with.

He couldn’t have possibly have thought that he would get away with killing Kirk surely? He must have known that he would get caught or do you think he imagined he was smarter than the police or cctv or the fbi… Boggles my mind. Is it infamy?

His family had to hand him in, it wouldn’t have ended well otherwise. A shootout? A suicide?

I don't think so either, but yet so many come to a plea deal in order to avoid the death penalty so obviously some think that death is worse.

The way the system works it's like you get the worst of both worlds, long jail sentences while awaiting the death sentence.

I just posted that previously - Socialism.

So knowing that he had killed someone in cold blood because he didn’t agree with their views, you would keep quiet and wait for the next time he targeted someone he disagreed with ? It’s not about what the punishment will be, or whether you disagree with the death penalty. It’s about bringing him to justice for pre-mediated and cold blooded murder and getting him off the streets so he can’t do it to anyone else. His father was something in law enforcement, so I don’t think he had much of a choice.

Your own child, though?

This.

Awful situation for the parents but the best chance of keeping him alive is to turn him in.

We’re all hypocrites when it comes to our children. At least you’re self aware about it.

In what way do they seem politically aligned?

Live on tv knowing that lot

Been thinking about this

to all those who say you you would not, what would you expect if it was your family member murdered, and you knew a family who knew their son did it and refused to hand them in or encourage them to hand themselves in despite the death penalty?

would you still be so insistent you would not hand in your son/daughter?

Realistically he was going to be recognised by someone sooner or later, leaving them with the option of he hands himself in peacefully, or likely gets shot by police "trying" to arrest him if he doesn't fully cooperate.
At least with prison he can appeal the sentence and it often takes decades before its actually carried out. The family has money for decent lawyers by the sound of it.

Also my concern would be that he'd do something else and kill another person or get himself killed - or given his comment that he'd rather die than hand himself in that he'd kill himself.
Handing himself in is really the safest option for everyone including himself, even with the death penalty he's likely to live a lot longer than if he wasn't arrested while cooperating.

They also have 2 younger sons who need them to think about, hiding him would make the parents at risk of being arrested.

People were in uproar about Brian laundries family hiding him. And that didn't end well for him either.

I think sadly some people are forgetting that the man murdered had a family, children and loved ones regardless of his political stance, and therefore aren't viewing him as a human in the way they do with other cases.

There are such nasty comment on her

you may not agree with Kirk’s comments and thought, but we live in a free world where he is entitled to spout them, just as you are entitled not to listen to them or disagree

so much nastiness thanking he is dead, he’s evil and the rest

I don’t agree with most of his thoughts but I acknowledge he has the right to think and say them, he does not deserved to be killed over them and no one should be glad he’s dead, leaving two small children fatherless

shame on you who think it’s good he’s dead

Thats a personal opinion though, many appeal the death sentence.

Depends how dangerous you believe him to be. Every killer, including mass murderers, those who shoot children in school or stab little girls at a dance class, is someone’s son. Men who kill their own wife and children are someone’s son. What if you didn’t hand in your son and then his next murder was another family member or he went on a killing spree at a school or similar location. Would you forgive yourself if you knew your son was a killer, ignored it and he went on to kill again? What if next time it was your loved one he killed? It’s certainly not unheard of for men to kill members of their own family. Anyone who justifies shooting another person is not thinking rationally, how could you feel safe around them regardless of whether he your son or not?

In a country without the death penalty? Absolutely.
I can’t sanction killing though, so if there was a death penalty I wouldn’t. Murder isn’t better because the state sanctions it.