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Huge row with neightbour, AIBU?

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Nikki3009 · 09/09/2025 00:25

Hi,

I moved into a small shared-ownership house on a new-ish build estate to get away from domestic abuse and I'm very thankful for my home, but tonight I have had an awful row with a neighbour, and I feel so upset.

Adjacent to my house, is a row of houses that are LHA - I want to preface this by saying that I have no issue with this, and I'm only putting in this detail because I think it's relevant. I'm not trying to throw shade on people in local authority housing.

When I moved in, one of the fence panels at the side of my house had a load of scaffolding poles leaning against it. The fence panel was buckling under the weight and bits of it were breaking off so I popped round to let them know (thinking it was their fence). The women basically said, it's your fence, your problem. But to give them their due they did remove the scaffolding poles. And I've not mentioned it since even though they've damaged it. I've just had to accept that it'll be down to me to replace it at some point.

They have 5 children, I think, and they are loud which you would expect but hearing them playing in the garden doesn't bother me. My garden is often very noisy because there are lots of houses in close proximity so I just don't use my garden very often.

The kids from this house are always kicking their balls into my garden and they'd come and knock at my door and I'd have a chat with them and then throw their balls back over. Or, if I found a ball in the garden I'd put it back over the fence for them. Again, no problem.

The issue started when I realised that the kids were coming into my garden whilst I was at work (my daughter caught them when she was staying). I think they were climbing over the fence onto my bin, because I noticed my bin lid was damaged one day and then the following day it was worse. The bin hadn't been moved, so I don't know how it had spontaneoulsly crumpled. When I tried to get a new bin my local council wanted to charge me for it, so in order to get a new bin I had to file a criminal damage report. The police did say they would go and speak to them, but I said not to worry as long as I got a new bin, it would be fine.

One day I was working from home, and I was on a teams call with a really high value client. I could hear the kids banging on my front door but I couldn't go and answer it. Then I heard them rattling my side gate and shouting 'oi we want our ball back'. I had to mute my call and ask them to stop shouting and that I'd be there when I could!

There's been lots of this sort of thing going on, it's irritating but nothing I've complained about. They flooded my side alley way by emptying their swimming pool at the bottom of their garden. They're (the parents) just generally just a bit laissez faire I think and don't really have any respect for their neighbours or their neighbours property.

Roll on this evening and I'm sitting in my lounge with my DD and all we can hear is the fence being smashed by a football. A bit later I'm doing a bit of clearing up and I go out to my side alley to take some rubbish and SMASH the ball hits the fence, the fence panel which is hanging on by a thread anyway looks like its going to fall on me.

I shouted "Excuse me, could you not hit the fence like that please". Now, I hold my hands up, I was stern when I said it but I think it was the shock of the noise. When they shouted back 'we're shooting goals', I replied 'perhaps you could move your goal'? I personally think the parents should be telling their children not to kick a football at their neighbours fence or am I just a bit old school?

The next thing I know, there is hammering at my front door and I mean absolute bashing my door. I wasn't going to answer it, but whoever it was, clearly wasn't going to stop. So I opened the door and it was the mum from the house adjacent to mine.

She shouted "who the fck do you think you are, if you've got a problem you come to my door, you don't speak to my children". It was so aggressive, so I said hold on, the kids are smashing a ball into the fence. And she said "you and that fcking fence....just because you're too tight to f*cking fix it". So, I said why should I pay to fix the damage you caused? And then she went a bit mental.

I thought she was going to hit me. The women's husband had come along and he was holding her back! I was really trying to calmly explain to him why I had said something.

She was going ballistic screaming and shouting about the fence being damaged before I even moved in and so I said well they've damaged it even more by climbing over it to get into my garden. She said 'what's your problem with them getting their ball back"? I said, because if I'm not here, they don't have permission to come onto my property. She laughed and said 'Oh you're a fat fucking bitch". At which point my daughter got involved and told her to f*ck off.

I made my daughter go inside, she was so angry, but she's seen me being verbally abused by her Dad so many times that I think it just triggered her.

The women then said that the kids don't climb over the fence, they come in at the side gate (which I do leave unlocked when it's bin day). She was sneering at me, saying they're just kids, whats the problem. She's lived there 8 years and never had any problems until I moved it (what?)

I was mortified by all the shouting and screaming on the street. I was having a reasonable conversation with her husband but even as she was walked off she shouted "I'm going to tell them to kick your fence even harder".

I feel a bit gaslit...am I being unreasonable? How would you feel if strangers' kids just came into your garden when they felt like it? How would you feel about your fence being used as goal and being damaged? Maybe I'm not cut out for being in close proximity to people with younger kids.

And the 'f•cking fat b*tch' comment has just brought back so many horrible memories of all the verbal abuse and the constant put downs. I kow I'm overweight (I'm a menopausal woman, size 16 and struggling to shift the meno weight). I just didn't really need that being sceamed in my face in my safe space. My daughter got it on video and I'm so tempted to make a police complaint, but I don't want to make things any worse.

What would you do in my situation? I don't want any animosity. Clearly she has different ideas of being neighbourly, respecting neighbours property etc.

I'd been feeling so good recently, I'm having CBT, I'm trying to re-build my life and this has made me feel so small and I'm embarrassed because I'm sure the other neighbours heard it all.

Thank you for listening and letting me vent... xx

OP posts:
TheaBrandt1 · 09/09/2025 07:33

Same about social housing. Flat next to us was given to social housing tenants. Omg. Fighting in street and garden / drug dealing / gangsta rap / out of control dogs. Never again. We moved. If that makes me a snob so be it.

Fundays12 · 09/09/2025 07:33

Having the bad luck of living next door to the neighbours from he'll i would highly recommend getting ring doorbell bells in your front and back. They are essential for your own protection when you have crazy neighbours. Secondly she is right you should have fixed the fence panel as it belongs to you but her kids shouldn't be kicking balls against your fence. I have told some of my nice neighbours kids to not kick balls against my fence but explained to them it damages the fence and will cost us a lot to fix.

Thirdly if you have cameras phone the police as I found out to my detriment letting crazy people like that away with it means they are likely to do it again.

Sparklesandspandexgallore · 09/09/2025 07:35

Yes replace the fence panel will a 6 foot fencing panel. Padlock your gate and buy what we did from Amazon, it’s anti theft spikes. You buy it in strips and fix it to the top of fences/gates etc. It basically stops anyone from holding onto your fence/ gate.
I would also plant roses with lots of thorns against your fence. 2 reasons. 1) anyone climbing over will get pickled to death. 2) absorbs noise. Look at a specialist rose grower such as. David Austen for advice on what to plant. It might be worth planting rambling roses which spread quickly. Tough luck if the neighbours get prickled.
Next stop throwing the balls back. Ignore any knocking, put a sign on your door saying you don’t answer to anyone who cold calls. Eventually they will get the message.
Put the balls in the bin, stop giving them back full stop,
Your neighbour is a vile, nasty piece of work.
Also you can use anti vandal paint, but only on your side if the fence.

JustGoClickLikeALightSwitch · 09/09/2025 07:35

I'm very sorry you went through that.

You're doing great OP. Chin up x

user9064385631 · 09/09/2025 07:35

That sounds horrendous (and why social housing has the reputation it has sadly…)
Ring doorbell, report to police/HA and hope either they or you move!

Keepingthingsinteresting · 09/09/2025 07:41

ArtfulPinkBird · 09/09/2025 04:02

Log with police and the HA in case she now decides she's got a vendetta. We're also on very close proximity to LHA homes on a new build estate and have had similar issues with tenants and their antisocial behaviour, it is draining. You can get strips of plastic spikes to put along the tops of your fences and gates, make sure your gate is at least 6ft and the spikes on top will stop anyone climbing over. We've had to fix these onto ours but it's stopped people climbing over. Hope things calm down for you.

Be careful with this, as whilst I think it’s a good idea if someone is hurt the @Nikki3009 will be liable, especially as she knows the kids climb over the fence. She would need to put signage up at the very least and that might not even cover it

Fundays12 · 09/09/2025 07:43

U53rName · 09/09/2025 06:08

Honestly? I’d move. I’m going to say something unpopular, yet honest: I wouldn’t live adjacent to social housing. From my experience working in education, I unfortunately know how complex and dysfunctional many (NOT all, but definitely many) families in social housing can be, and it’s not something I’d care to deal with day-to-day in my own home. It’s just not worth it.

I own a house in an area with mostly social housing around us. Most of the social housing tenants are absolutely lovely hard working nice people.

However we have had endless issues with the neighbours next door to us who own their house. They are the most spoilt, entitled adults I have ever met in my life and who bully and abuse us when they feel like it. The police have already charged and cautioned them over their behaviour towards us on multiple occasions but yet they still cant see they are the neighbours from hell. Thankfully the rest of my lovely neighbours know they are the issue not us.

New2you · 09/09/2025 07:45

You are not being unreasonable

LakieLady · 09/09/2025 07:46

Maddy70 · 09/09/2025 01:04

Complain to the HA this isn't on at all

This, and keep a diary of any future incidents, with dates and times. Report them to the landlord when there have been a few.

Most LAs/HAs are pretty hot on this sort of anti-social behaviour these days.

Nannyfannybanny · 09/09/2025 07:49

I sympathise, I had this, a screaming nasty neighbour at one point,her dog used to jump a very high fence,crap in my garden,cause damage. This was a nice Surrey village, private owned.. when my DH finally had enough, she put the dog poo on our furniture. Moved, next house, again nice hamlet. 2 kids next door,1 and 2. Fast forward a few years, they had a football goal both ends of the garden, theirs was quite small. Park in the next road,balls, smashing the green house, ruining the garden. The husband asked "on the rare occasion (seriously) the ball might come over,do you want him to come and ring the bell or get it". I said come and get it, because I worked nights, I didn't want to be woken up..we really liked them when we moved in, and put a small fence. If you put glass or spikes and someone is injured,you will find yourself in trouble.. we're detached now.

Easyozy · 09/09/2025 07:56

When she said she is going to continue to get them to kick your fence I would have said and 'and every single incident of antisocial behaviour will be reported to your landlord'. Agree with cameras, and do report every incident. Hopefully they'll get evicted eventually.

LakieLady · 09/09/2025 07:56

The prickly rose suggestion is a good one, but there are other prickly plants that are easier to care for, eg berberis and pyracantha. They also have berries that are good for birds and wildlife.

A friend had a cotoneaster in her garden that was incredibly spiny; it had really strong thorns that were about an inch long.

beAsensible1 · 09/09/2025 08:01

id remove the side gate or lock it when your not using it and put up a 6ft fence with wire on the top.

don’t return their balls either

Serendipawtous · 09/09/2025 08:01

The other neighbours have probably had their own dealings with this woman.
I would absolutely log this incident with the housing authority and police.
The housing may already have a file on her and her kids by the sounds of it!

tamade · 09/09/2025 08:02

Plenty of advice above which will up the ante and cement the feud, I suggest a different approach.
What do you want to achieve? Peace, normal relations and some kind of co-operation? You won't get that by reporting to the police or HA or whoever, that will get you victory and after they visit/write an even more pissed off neighbour.

Seems like the husband is more reasonable try to speak to him alone, show him the video and explain how traumatic it was to be on the receiving end. Suggest that this year's Christmas present for his kids be a football goal with a net. Once you have laid that groundwork see them as a couple, apologise a bit to grease the wheels and try to reset the relationship. They are not going anywhere you are stuck with them and need to make the best of it. If it doesn't work you can still do the reporting to police and stuff, but it can't be done in the reverse order.

Calling · 09/09/2025 08:04

As a general tip, plant pyracantha - it is spiked and is a deterrent to people. As a plus, the berries are red orange and very pretty.

reversegear · 09/09/2025 08:06

Don’t report, and I’d be moving. This wont get better

LegoNinjago · 09/09/2025 08:06

Please do report them to police and their HA

jeaux90 · 09/09/2025 08:10

Agree Ring cameras so you have evidence of everything. Those kids sound feral poor things. What a horrid woman.

I am about to move. There is HA at the back with two families. One woman is constantly shouting at her kids and swearing, the other family lets their kids scream outside. I’m not talking about the joyful sounds kids make when they play. It’s screaming.

Dutchhouse14 · 09/09/2025 08:10

That sounds horrific.
I would put a strong 6 foot fence along the boundary to make it hard to climb, move the bins so they can't be used for climbing, plant extra prickly plants such as thorny roses, hawthorn, pyracantha, blackthorn.
Ring door bell cameras.
I torn about reporting it, ideally it should be logged with police and housing association but if you decide you want to move you will have to declare it and that would understandably put buyers off.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 09/09/2025 08:14

Report her to the police.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 09/09/2025 08:16

Oh and don't throw any balls back.

Tell them that if anything else comes into your garden they will not see it again, and stick to that.

TrimayrAcademy · 09/09/2025 08:17

I would plant some thorny bushes along your side of that fence, already established ones or very fast growing and coat the top of your gate and fences with anti vandal paint (you might have to put a sign on the fence).

I would be wary about involving the police incase you decide to sell up and move.

Phatgurslyms · 09/09/2025 08:19

You are not a fat fucking bitch. From your post I pick up that you are a strong woman who has been through a lot. Please don’t allow her words to get to you. She said this because she wanted to inflict violence on you so she did it with words instead of her fists.

I think that you should file a complaint (police? Council?) Someone else will be able to advise on this. I think you should also get a Ring doorbell so that you can record their actions.

Keep strong and - as they used to say in the old days - don’t let the bastards get you down.

Edit: just seen what others have said about police report potentially jeopardising a future Sale so I guess you need to consider that.

Nannyfannybanny · 09/09/2025 08:19

Where we live now,there's a footpath and little grass area,there are kids in neighbouring flats, private rental,who play football, We've got a high fence,2 mtr and I have planted Rosa rugosas all along there,to deter anyone fancying a climb. They are cheap and cheerful and fast growing..you can't remove or burst a ball, you can only legally leave it in situ.