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Huge row with neightbour, AIBU?

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Nikki3009 · 09/09/2025 00:25

Hi,

I moved into a small shared-ownership house on a new-ish build estate to get away from domestic abuse and I'm very thankful for my home, but tonight I have had an awful row with a neighbour, and I feel so upset.

Adjacent to my house, is a row of houses that are LHA - I want to preface this by saying that I have no issue with this, and I'm only putting in this detail because I think it's relevant. I'm not trying to throw shade on people in local authority housing.

When I moved in, one of the fence panels at the side of my house had a load of scaffolding poles leaning against it. The fence panel was buckling under the weight and bits of it were breaking off so I popped round to let them know (thinking it was their fence). The women basically said, it's your fence, your problem. But to give them their due they did remove the scaffolding poles. And I've not mentioned it since even though they've damaged it. I've just had to accept that it'll be down to me to replace it at some point.

They have 5 children, I think, and they are loud which you would expect but hearing them playing in the garden doesn't bother me. My garden is often very noisy because there are lots of houses in close proximity so I just don't use my garden very often.

The kids from this house are always kicking their balls into my garden and they'd come and knock at my door and I'd have a chat with them and then throw their balls back over. Or, if I found a ball in the garden I'd put it back over the fence for them. Again, no problem.

The issue started when I realised that the kids were coming into my garden whilst I was at work (my daughter caught them when she was staying). I think they were climbing over the fence onto my bin, because I noticed my bin lid was damaged one day and then the following day it was worse. The bin hadn't been moved, so I don't know how it had spontaneoulsly crumpled. When I tried to get a new bin my local council wanted to charge me for it, so in order to get a new bin I had to file a criminal damage report. The police did say they would go and speak to them, but I said not to worry as long as I got a new bin, it would be fine.

One day I was working from home, and I was on a teams call with a really high value client. I could hear the kids banging on my front door but I couldn't go and answer it. Then I heard them rattling my side gate and shouting 'oi we want our ball back'. I had to mute my call and ask them to stop shouting and that I'd be there when I could!

There's been lots of this sort of thing going on, it's irritating but nothing I've complained about. They flooded my side alley way by emptying their swimming pool at the bottom of their garden. They're (the parents) just generally just a bit laissez faire I think and don't really have any respect for their neighbours or their neighbours property.

Roll on this evening and I'm sitting in my lounge with my DD and all we can hear is the fence being smashed by a football. A bit later I'm doing a bit of clearing up and I go out to my side alley to take some rubbish and SMASH the ball hits the fence, the fence panel which is hanging on by a thread anyway looks like its going to fall on me.

I shouted "Excuse me, could you not hit the fence like that please". Now, I hold my hands up, I was stern when I said it but I think it was the shock of the noise. When they shouted back 'we're shooting goals', I replied 'perhaps you could move your goal'? I personally think the parents should be telling their children not to kick a football at their neighbours fence or am I just a bit old school?

The next thing I know, there is hammering at my front door and I mean absolute bashing my door. I wasn't going to answer it, but whoever it was, clearly wasn't going to stop. So I opened the door and it was the mum from the house adjacent to mine.

She shouted "who the fck do you think you are, if you've got a problem you come to my door, you don't speak to my children". It was so aggressive, so I said hold on, the kids are smashing a ball into the fence. And she said "you and that fcking fence....just because you're too tight to f*cking fix it". So, I said why should I pay to fix the damage you caused? And then she went a bit mental.

I thought she was going to hit me. The women's husband had come along and he was holding her back! I was really trying to calmly explain to him why I had said something.

She was going ballistic screaming and shouting about the fence being damaged before I even moved in and so I said well they've damaged it even more by climbing over it to get into my garden. She said 'what's your problem with them getting their ball back"? I said, because if I'm not here, they don't have permission to come onto my property. She laughed and said 'Oh you're a fat fucking bitch". At which point my daughter got involved and told her to f*ck off.

I made my daughter go inside, she was so angry, but she's seen me being verbally abused by her Dad so many times that I think it just triggered her.

The women then said that the kids don't climb over the fence, they come in at the side gate (which I do leave unlocked when it's bin day). She was sneering at me, saying they're just kids, whats the problem. She's lived there 8 years and never had any problems until I moved it (what?)

I was mortified by all the shouting and screaming on the street. I was having a reasonable conversation with her husband but even as she was walked off she shouted "I'm going to tell them to kick your fence even harder".

I feel a bit gaslit...am I being unreasonable? How would you feel if strangers' kids just came into your garden when they felt like it? How would you feel about your fence being used as goal and being damaged? Maybe I'm not cut out for being in close proximity to people with younger kids.

And the 'f•cking fat b*tch' comment has just brought back so many horrible memories of all the verbal abuse and the constant put downs. I kow I'm overweight (I'm a menopausal woman, size 16 and struggling to shift the meno weight). I just didn't really need that being sceamed in my face in my safe space. My daughter got it on video and I'm so tempted to make a police complaint, but I don't want to make things any worse.

What would you do in my situation? I don't want any animosity. Clearly she has different ideas of being neighbourly, respecting neighbours property etc.

I'd been feeling so good recently, I'm having CBT, I'm trying to re-build my life and this has made me feel so small and I'm embarrassed because I'm sure the other neighbours heard it all.

Thank you for listening and letting me vent... xx

OP posts:
Tara336 · 09/09/2025 03:55

This type of neighbour is a nightmare. I have one who'd kids constantly pummel the fence with a football, the bangs are constant and so loud! I have had my kitchen window hit by the ball on more than one occasion by the football and I tried talking nicely to the neighbour who was not receptive to my suggestion that they move their goal to face their own windows. Apparently that stops them enjoying their garden and their six year old is football mad.

I have balls in my garden regularly and even on one occasion a badminton racket actually thrown into my garden, I have had plants damaged and now I have to consider where I place anything in case a ball hits it.

A couple weeks ago I was hit by a football and I did tell the son off because it shocked me and I'm tired of the we can do what we want attitude. I have a 6 foot fence and cameras too, they wave at the camera (so does the dad). I would move but I love my little home

JustMyView13 · 09/09/2025 04:00

I would probably just stab a hole in the ball when it came over and toss it back. It’ll soon stop.
‘I have no idea, it must’ve burst when your child kicked it against the broken fence panel’.

AngelicKaty · 09/09/2025 04:01

mammat72 · 09/09/2025 03:46

you can report trespassing to police if it involves criminal activity, aggravated trespass, criminal damage or threatening behavior.so if she is being threatened she can report to the police 👮

How are OP's neighbour's children engaged in "criminal activity, aggravated trespass, criminal damage or threatening behaviour" by simply entering her garden to retrieve a ball? Clue: they're not and the police wouldn't be interested.

ArtfulPinkBird · 09/09/2025 04:02

Log with police and the HA in case she now decides she's got a vendetta. We're also on very close proximity to LHA homes on a new build estate and have had similar issues with tenants and their antisocial behaviour, it is draining. You can get strips of plastic spikes to put along the tops of your fences and gates, make sure your gate is at least 6ft and the spikes on top will stop anyone climbing over. We've had to fix these onto ours but it's stopped people climbing over. Hope things calm down for you.

mammat72 · 09/09/2025 04:04

AngelicKaty · 09/09/2025 04:01

How are OP's neighbour's children engaged in "criminal activity, aggravated trespass, criminal damage or threatening behaviour" by simply entering her garden to retrieve a ball? Clue: they're not and the police wouldn't be interested.

damaging a fence can be classed as criminal behavior, the mothers abuse can be classed as threatening behavior. Are you sure your not her neighbor ?

AngelicKaty · 09/09/2025 04:04

Tara336 · 09/09/2025 03:55

This type of neighbour is a nightmare. I have one who'd kids constantly pummel the fence with a football, the bangs are constant and so loud! I have had my kitchen window hit by the ball on more than one occasion by the football and I tried talking nicely to the neighbour who was not receptive to my suggestion that they move their goal to face their own windows. Apparently that stops them enjoying their garden and their six year old is football mad.

I have balls in my garden regularly and even on one occasion a badminton racket actually thrown into my garden, I have had plants damaged and now I have to consider where I place anything in case a ball hits it.

A couple weeks ago I was hit by a football and I did tell the son off because it shocked me and I'm tired of the we can do what we want attitude. I have a 6 foot fence and cameras too, they wave at the camera (so does the dad). I would move but I love my little home

Well, I do hope you don't return the balls promptly (or, indeed, at all).

AngelicKaty · 09/09/2025 04:16

mammat72 · 09/09/2025 04:04

damaging a fence can be classed as criminal behavior, the mothers abuse can be classed as threatening behavior. Are you sure your not her neighbor ?

Do you actually live in the UK? The police would do absolutely nothing about a fence broken by kids - are you really that naive? They would refer the homeowner to seek redress through the civil court by suing their neighbour for the cost of repairs to the fence. And if the neighbour's kids are nine years old or younger, they'd be below the age of criminal responsibility anyway.
The neighbour's behaviour was certainly very aggressive and the police could class that as threatening behaviour and speak to her about that, but she didn't trespass on OP's property unless OP told her to leave and she refused, and she doesn't appear to have done that because she was trying to calm the woman down and have a reasonable conversation with her.
Finally, posting things like "Are you sure your(sic) not her neighbor(sic)?" is neither big or clever.

Madformaltesers · 09/09/2025 04:40

I would ring the police and give them the video, move the bins so they cant climb over, ring doorbell for the gate/drive etc as they are trespassing plus would not give any more balls back that came over

Tara336 · 09/09/2025 05:55

@AngelicKaty I chuck the balls out onto the public greenspace outside our homes if they find them I have no idea. My dog nearly chocked on one as I didn't know it had landed in the garden, I let her out and found a sponge type football torn to pieces with bits in my dogs mouth. Normally the balls are the proper leather type. I honestly dont know what to do, if soneone doesn't listen when they are really politely asked to be more careful and considerate where do you go from there? I actually prefer winter as they don't play outside as much and I get some peace

Movingonup313 · 09/09/2025 05:56

Sorry you have this on your doorstep - how stressful.
Do you think writing a letter to her would work? Other than that I agree with all the good advice re logging it with HA and police, getting cheap cameras,moving bin and eventually getting new fence. Id likely go as far as asking the HA to provide a new fence and to pay for a new bin. I bet she was a mare to the previous occupants. I wonder if there is some sort of neighbour mediation programme - the police will be able to tell you.

I dont want to be the bearer of bad news but they are likely there for the long haul so before long those children will be teens and might have the disgusting attitude of their mother. Unless this is nipped in the bud early, you are going to have a shit time.

The winter will come in so the kids will be in the garden less - small win.

I might try to speak to the kids, offer them biscuits or cake, get on their good side and diffuse any hatred their mum might be building up towards you. I might even get them all Halloween sweets and Christmas presents. So they see you as the nice lady next door.
The parents dont sound neighbourly aware and maybe by osmosis you can teach the kids why its not nice to do the things they are doing. Have a guidance role. It might reap rewards in the long run.

I did like the idea of trying to speak to dad - just watch out for the lady trying to accused you of trying to pinch her husband.

Good luck

ADifferentDay · 09/09/2025 05:58

You could replace your fence with a breezeblock wall to avoid further damage. That's what they have in city gardens in Dublin and it looks nice if you grow plants up it.

You could then put broken glass on the top to prevent people climbing over.

It's not super beautiful, but it does stop idiots.

I'm sorry to hear that you have this awful neighbour. She is probably going crackers because the five kids will be behaving like animals inside the house too and driving her round the bend.

If you have any heavy gardening work that you need done, you might be able to convince them to do it for 50p each. They may be quite lively and useful if properly channeled.

Onwardspeople · 09/09/2025 06:04

If you haven’t already, get a ring door bell and/or cameras that cover your property. Send the details of what’s happened to the HA, including asking what they plan to do and response times. Is it the same HA you have shared ownership with?

U53rName · 09/09/2025 06:08

Honestly? I’d move. I’m going to say something unpopular, yet honest: I wouldn’t live adjacent to social housing. From my experience working in education, I unfortunately know how complex and dysfunctional many (NOT all, but definitely many) families in social housing can be, and it’s not something I’d care to deal with day-to-day in my own home. It’s just not worth it.

verycloakanddaggers · 09/09/2025 06:19

If any other people heard, they heard your neighbour making a fool of herself. You did nothing wrong, you're not responsible for the bad behaviour of others.

Log the incident with the police and the LHA. Keep a record of everything. Cameras would be a good idea.

If you can afford it, replace the fence with a stronger and higher boundary. But check with the LHA about who owns the boundary.

Dorb · 09/09/2025 06:21

U53rName · 09/09/2025 06:08

Honestly? I’d move. I’m going to say something unpopular, yet honest: I wouldn’t live adjacent to social housing. From my experience working in education, I unfortunately know how complex and dysfunctional many (NOT all, but definitely many) families in social housing can be, and it’s not something I’d care to deal with day-to-day in my own home. It’s just not worth it.

This! And I say this as a life long HA tenant myself whose life has been made absolutely miserable over the years living next to tenants like this. There is no reasoning with these type of people and they just lower that bar every time!

I’m guessing moving isn’t it an option, so you need to get serious about this and start logging and recording every incident.

YanTanTetheraPetheraBumfitt · 09/09/2025 06:28

Report her to the HA.
replace the fence panel and put anti cat spikes along the top of all the fencing.
move your wheelie bin away from that boundary.
get cctv cameras and a ring doorbell.
pierce every football with a knife and toss back over.

pilates · 09/09/2025 06:33

Get some cameras and report to HA. Start keeping a log.

RhaenysRocks · 09/09/2025 06:44

AngelicKaty · 09/09/2025 04:01

How are OP's neighbour's children engaged in "criminal activity, aggravated trespass, criminal damage or threatening behaviour" by simply entering her garden to retrieve a ball? Clue: they're not and the police wouldn't be interested.

The police may not be interested but yes the kids are trespassing and the mum was threatening and they are causing criminal damage by jumping on the bin and repeatedly kicking against the fence. When my kids kicked a ball over I told them tough, they have to wait until the neighbour feels like returning it. Outrageous that the work call was interrupted. It's not "simply going and getting a ball" it's invading personal space and it's not on. The kids are going to grow up as nightmares of that's the behaviour they see from mum. I feel very sorry for the OP and these kids' teachers.

Iocainepowder · 09/09/2025 06:52

I think you’ve had some good advice here op and tbh i’m not sure why things such as moving your bin haven’t occurred to you before?

Next time they bang on your door to get a ball, just ignore them. And get rid of their balls if you can, so they are less tempted to kick their balls into your garden. Then claim you don’t know anything about their ball.

I found this comment a bit odd:

Maybe I'm not cut out for being in close proximity to people with younger kids.

Surely you know this is not typical behaviour of all young kids and that the issue here is that you live across the road from a family with shit parents?

Also agree with PPs to get a camera installed.

MatronPomfrey · 09/09/2025 06:52

Report to police and HA. Get cameras and log everything. I’ve got a friend that had similar issues. Turns out the other neighbours had already been reporting issues to the police and HA. HA were working towards eviction.

nomas · 09/09/2025 07:16

She is absolute scum, don’t let her upset you.

Install a video doorbell, move the new bin out of climbing reach and keep the gate locked.

And send every ball back deflated.

Yellowview · 09/09/2025 07:19

She sounds unhinged I’m sorry you went through that. Of course her children can’t just come in your garden. Definitely get cameras. Can you double up the fencing. So new fence in your garden then they can kick the old panel as she intends to let them carry on. If you report it I expect you won’t be the first person who has had issues with her and the ha can gather evidence.

GentleJadeOP · 09/09/2025 07:19

This sounds awful but the police would not be interested. If you make a police or council report this would have to be declared if you wanted to sell the house. I’ve had awful neighbours too and after 8 years I sold the house. I would throw the balls back so they don’t need to come into garden, they’re just kids and it’s not their fault that they have awful parents. I wouldn’t replace the panel until it’s totally collapsed. Sounds like you have got off on the wrong foot with awful neighbours and sadly they will never change, you will just have to tolerate them. She’s obviously got the hump about you asking to remove the scaffold poles. Just be polite ( that will wind her up as she obviously doesn’t know what being polite is like)

Bluecrystal2 · 09/09/2025 07:20

You've received some great advice on this, so I won't add to it. She's just a nasty vindictive bitch.

Sunshineandrainbow · 09/09/2025 07:26

Insults like that are awful, how dare she.

Take control and get some cameras.

I would report via 101 just so they have a record of it in case anything else happens.

I think I would still pass the balls back as I wouldn't want to heighten the situation.

Hope it gets better