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To think promiscuous men should be shamed more?

417 replies

TheJoyOfWriting · 08/09/2025 22:28

This, really. The whole body count discourse is the latest version of slut-shaming, as it's mostly aimed at women. Promiscuous men are still given status by other men and by women, too often.

The body count arguments that people use against women can be used against men just as easily. Promiscuous men are more likely to cheat. They are more likely to have STDs. They are more likely to have contributed to an 'oops' baby- it takes 2 to make one, and more likely to walk away after w no consequences.

Promiscuous men often dump women after pretending to be interested to get sex, esp on datjng apps, which fuel this kind of behaviour. Women tend to find ONSs less satisfying, often partly bc these kind of men often don't care about giving pleasure, just taking it.

The idea that a man's worth is measured by how many women he has sex with is very bad. It encourages men to treat women badly, and it fuels the incel culture by making men feel insecure & unmanly if they're not sexually successful.

Thoughts? I don't mean we should call Promiscuous men horrible names or talk about them like 'run through' or 'high mileage cars' the way some men do about promiscuous women. But I think they should be shamed more, by both men and women.

I don't think casual sex is bad per se, but I think the culture of it has got out of control, and Promiscuous men share a lot of the blame.

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Remingtonsteele · 12/09/2025 08:03

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 12/09/2025 08:01

Love this.

I also dislike players immensely. Total lack of respect for people. Just a hole to fill.

How does me shagging indicate a lack of respect? And how does it affect you? If you don’t want to be promiscuous, don’t be. No one will make you !

Anchorage56 · 12/09/2025 08:08

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 12/09/2025 08:14

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Why? Because you don’t agree with them?

Anchorage56 · 12/09/2025 08:20

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 12/09/2025 08:14

Why? Because you don’t agree with them?

No. They made a post which I replied to with a question and they replied the way they did. Not stable behaviour. You were the poster who talked about how much your life had been affected by supposed unspoken expectation you felt. You loved one of the most angry deranged posts on this thread, that's very telling. There is positivity out there if you can see it. Plenty on here are expressing no judgement on the sex lives of others, which also means no judgement on people who didnt sleep around.

thebabayaga2025 · 12/09/2025 10:03

SwingTheMonkey · 12/09/2025 06:38

I feel like you wrote this post stamping your feet 😂

I feel like you wrote your response stamping your feet and projected heavily 😅

thebabayaga2025 · 12/09/2025 10:04

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You sound utterly unhinged.

thebabayaga2025 · 12/09/2025 10:05

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 12/09/2025 08:14

Why? Because you don’t agree with them?

Yep, that's exactly it :D I saw through their pretence at reasonableness, they were raging because I pointed out that normal people don't find sluttyness attractive, and they were desperate to try to draw me in to a pointless, burbling argument.

I shut them down, hard, but with perfectly calm, reasonable and sensible words and they reacted by stamping their feet and name calling and then projecting their own instability and rage onto me 😅

Anchorage56 · 12/09/2025 10:07

thebabayaga2025 · 12/09/2025 10:05

Yep, that's exactly it :D I saw through their pretence at reasonableness, they were raging because I pointed out that normal people don't find sluttyness attractive, and they were desperate to try to draw me in to a pointless, burbling argument.

I shut them down, hard, but with perfectly calm, reasonable and sensible words and they reacted by stamping their feet and name calling and then projecting their own instability and rage onto me 😅

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Raging? That's called projection 😁

thebabayaga2025 · 12/09/2025 10:12

thebabayaga2025 · 11/09/2025 03:48

I've always found slutty men gross and completely unattractive, but I don't much care what they do, as they don't directly impacted me. I avoided dating any of them, so was not an issue. I once was chatting to a guy on a dating site and he revealed his body count and I told him I was no longer interested, politely. He insisted on me telling him why and then he was so pissed off 😆

I think most women find slutty men gross and unattractive actually, the whole greasy haired lothario trope being sexy to women seems to come from other men, I've never spoken to a woman who thinks a higher chance of STDs and treating women's bodies like impersonal holes for fluids is a good thing.

Also, slutty men are far more likely to screw around once they are in a relationship than normal men.

I have no problem at all using the word slutty and will always continue to use it if I feel the urge. It's perfect for a certain type of person. Wouldn't say it to someone's face unless they tried calling me vanilla, prudish etc - all the ways slutty people try to shame normal people 😅

I love how mumsnetters try all the time to police words that people simply do use in normal conversations. Won't work on me, I'm afraid.

Some people seem to be able to treat bodies as a set of orifices for fluids, but we ARE our bodies, and I have no interest at all in someone who can lose count of the number of partners they have had and personally have the opinion that if you're a shagger you have a lot less personal respect for yourself than those who care about who they are sticking their bits into.

And finally, slutty men are at a higher risk of being deadbeat dads or at the very least having extra kids strewn around in their wake.

So there's just no reason women (as a group) would have evolved to find slutty men attractive - higher risk of diseases, higher risk of cheating, higher risk of having to share limited resources and extra kids turning up.

So yeah, I don't think women are the ones pushing the trope.

Can't post links but you can look for
"The State of Affairs" (IFS, 2019): 20% of men with 10+ partners cheat vs. 10% with fewer.
"Personality, Marital Satisfaction, and Probability of Marital Infidelity" (Hughes & Gallup, 2003): Promiscuity correlates with cheating (r=0.80).
Sexual Behavior and STD Prevalence" (CDC, 2015): Men with 5+ female partners yearly have 15% chlamydia prevalence vs. 3% for monogamous men.
"High-Risk Sexual Behavior in Men" (Journal of Sexual Research, 2017): 25% of promiscuous heterosexual men had STDs (e.g., gonorrhea, syphilis).
"STI Trends in Heterosexual Men" (PubMed, 2020): Multiple partners increase syphilis risk (7.5/100 person-years).

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So yeah, I say again I have always found slutty men gross and completlely unattractive, but I don't much care what they do as they don't directly impact me. I have always avoided them, right from my teenage years saw them as not good enough to date, and avoided accordingly.

They can do as they please, and obviously will anyway. Just make the right choice for yourself and don't worry too much about what other people are getting up to in the bedroom, providing it doesn't directly affect you, is my advice.

thebabayaga2025 · 12/09/2025 10:13

Anchorage56 · 12/09/2025 10:07

Raging? That's called projection 😁

Still constantly harping on at me and still raging I see 😅😂😆

SwingTheMonkey · 12/09/2025 10:17

thebabayaga2025 · 12/09/2025 10:03

I feel like you wrote your response stamping your feet and projected heavily 😅

You just seem oddly angry about people who like to have sex with lots of different people…

thebabayaga2025 · 12/09/2025 10:22

SwingTheMonkey · 12/09/2025 10:17

You just seem oddly angry about people who like to have sex with lots of different people…

No, I definitely don't :)

You're a bit obsessed with banging on at people who have opinions you don't like though ¯\(ツ)

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 12/09/2025 10:29

SwingTheMonkey · 12/09/2025 10:17

You just seem oddly angry about people who like to have sex with lots of different people…

No she doesn’t. She just isn’t buying into casual sex thing. And she’s being condemned for it. Or even <gasps> shamed.

SwingTheMonkey · 12/09/2025 10:30

thebabayaga2025 · 12/09/2025 10:22

No, I definitely don't :)

You're a bit obsessed with banging on at people who have opinions you don't like though ¯\(ツ)

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Cute picture. Are you 12?!

I’m not bothered what your opinion is, actually. Nobody is saying you need to find ‘slutty men’ attractive. Or that you need to like promiscuity.

Im just intrigued by your fairly aggressive delivery!

SwingTheMonkey · 12/09/2025 10:31

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 12/09/2025 10:29

No she doesn’t. She just isn’t buying into casual sex thing. And she’s being condemned for it. Or even <gasps> shamed.

Where? I haven’t seen her being shamed.

thebabayaga2025 · 12/09/2025 10:31

SwingTheMonkey · 12/09/2025 10:30

Cute picture. Are you 12?!

I’m not bothered what your opinion is, actually. Nobody is saying you need to find ‘slutty men’ attractive. Or that you need to like promiscuity.

Im just intrigued by your fairly aggressive delivery!

Still harping on and sounded increasingly angry at a person who wrote perfectly calm words you didn't like. ¯\(ツ)/¯ Projection of the first order. ¯\(ツ)

SwingTheMonkey · 12/09/2025 10:33

thebabayaga2025 · 12/09/2025 10:31

Still harping on and sounded increasingly angry at a person who wrote perfectly calm words you didn't like. ¯\(ツ)/¯ Projection of the first order. ¯\(ツ)

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You’ve not written anything I don’t like! I’m not angry at you, lovely.

thebabayaga2025 · 12/09/2025 10:35

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 12/09/2025 10:29

No she doesn’t. She just isn’t buying into casual sex thing. And she’s being condemned for it. Or even <gasps> shamed.

Lol, I think that was the hope - that they could engage with me enough to try to condemn and shame me. It didn't work though - stopped that nonsense dead in its tracks by making it clear I give no damns about their hurty feels.

And that's why they're raging now, because all they're left with is repeated adolescent attempted burns and insults.

Anchorage56 · 12/09/2025 10:35

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 12/09/2025 10:29

No she doesn’t. She just isn’t buying into casual sex thing. And she’s being condemned for it. Or even <gasps> shamed.

In what way is she being shamed? Most people on here are not shaming other peoples choices. You should be pleased about that not giving support to one of the few who is shaming.

thebabayaga2025 · 12/09/2025 10:36

SwingTheMonkey · 12/09/2025 10:33

You’ve not written anything I don’t like! I’m not angry at you, lovely.

I feel like you wrote this reply stamping your feet, again 😅

Anchorage56 · 12/09/2025 10:39

Sooo anywayyy, OP please come back with your final thoughts 😆

thebabayaga2025 · 12/09/2025 10:45

thebabayaga2025 · 12/09/2025 10:12

So yeah, I say again I have always found slutty men gross and completlely unattractive, but I don't much care what they do as they don't directly impact me. I have always avoided them, right from my teenage years saw them as not good enough to date, and avoided accordingly.

They can do as they please, and obviously will anyway. Just make the right choice for yourself and don't worry too much about what other people are getting up to in the bedroom, providing it doesn't directly affect you, is my advice.

So yeah, to sum up grossly slutty men can do as they like, and for all the reasons I explained, most women simply aren't interested in them.

Best to be avoided when possible really, and just get on with behaving like a normal person :)

I know mumsnet gives us a bit of a skewed view of men, but there are plenty of men who aren't grossly slutty out there for those with higher standards. Or any standards at all 😅

20thcenturygirlwithherhandsonthewheel · 12/09/2025 10:46

Titasaducksarse · 08/09/2025 22:42

Why?

In fairness i don’t think anyone should be applauded for having sex within marriage.
Or applauded for not having sex out with marriage.

in fact, no applause is needed over anyone else’s sex life

RubySquid · 12/09/2025 11:19

20thcenturygirlwithherhandsonthewheel · 12/09/2025 10:46

In fairness i don’t think anyone should be applauded for having sex within marriage.
Or applauded for not having sex out with marriage.

in fact, no applause is needed over anyone else’s sex life

Yeah I can't imagine why anyone would give a shit about something like this really? If it doesn't affect you what someone else does why would you care?

BigFatLiar · 12/09/2025 15:15

thebabayaga2025 · 12/09/2025 10:45

So yeah, to sum up grossly slutty men can do as they like, and for all the reasons I explained, most women simply aren't interested in them.

Best to be avoided when possible really, and just get on with behaving like a normal person :)

I know mumsnet gives us a bit of a skewed view of men, but there are plenty of men who aren't grossly slutty out there for those with higher standards. Or any standards at all 😅

If women aren't interested in them how do they become 'slutty'. If they aren't lying then there must be quite a few women who fall for this sort of man. It may be they're the women who on here are happy to admit enjoying casual sex, whoever, it does seem that women do like these men.