To think most men are filthy losers

[fightbackorriseabove]

I'm going through the menopause, so have a low libido at the moment, which might explain my disgust. I don't know. I didn't use to be a prude, but I'm feeling more and more annoyed these days by men and their general behaviour.

I have a few male friends who, to varying degrees, always manage to slip in an innuendo or even an outright sexual remark. And out of politeness, or not wanting to cause a scene, I smile or roll my eyes in jest. I can only think of one occasion when I told a bloke to stop, and he REALLY took the hump. This was a married man who pursued me, but then said he was just joking and that I took myself too seriously. In fact, he got very angry.

I have lots of personal issues at the moment. Mad stuff. One of these issues lead to me googling my ex.

Well, the filth I found was disturbing. Men, thousands of them, masturbating online. I can only think they're doing it in front of each other. Becsuse there can't be many women wanting to sit and watch them. Surely? My ex was one of them.

I'm not talking about Only Fans where people pay. I'm talking about sex webcam stuff where men seem to just be filming themselves wanking. And watching each other. I don't even think it's gay. These are heterosexual men doing it for free. All ages.

Maybe I'm naïve.

But it's been a real eye opener for me.

I always knew men watched porn. But sitting there filming themselves and watching each other. It's madness.

I really do think that we, as women, spend our time worrying, working, caring, thinking, planning... and men just do the stuff thry have to do and then go back to messing with themselves or pestering women. Including their wives. And they keep having to up the limit because they can't get excited uness it's something really vile.

How many of us have felt obliged to have sex with a man, a partner, to avoid his anger, sulking, grumpiness. We've chosen sex as the lesser of two evils when we didn't want it.

It's not a human right, is it? They need to calm the fuck down.

Maybe I'm being unreasonable and grumpy, but I just think most of them ming.

I’ve seen some interesting posts on SM lately where the content creator shows screenshots of comments men have made on pics of female celebs and then shows their face. That’s eye opening, too.

Men telling famous women they need to grow bigger tits or wear nicer make up or that they haven’t aged well - men saying ‘no thanks, not for me’ on a pic of Margot flipping Robbie (who is a total babe) like they’d even have a chance? Vomit emojis, telling them they need to lose a few pounds and all sorts of disgusting insults and none of these men are oil paintings themselves. They do firmly believe that women shouldn’t be seen in public unless they are sexually attracted to them. We are only here to provide children or titillation.

This thread has brought out a lot of hysterical bitches..

Just matching OPs energy

Give the plod a quick bell. They'll come and sort out all these horrible nasty witches...

This thread has brought out a lot of hysterical bitches..

Just matching OPs energy

Who are you calling horrible nasty witches? I’m a woman and would t accept a thread like this from a man either.

I was responding to this point only:

, I think I'd feel grabby walking away with far more than I'd ever have earnt on my own.

I'm sure they do though, they just don't have the nerve to do it here as it will get taken down. Anyone who makes sweeping generalisations like some posters here are bigots and I am absolutely certain they are also racist/ classist and several other versions of bigotry too.

Absolutely . What the hell are MN doing?

Women don’t pair with men for protection.

Honestly, a lot of women do

What a strange post, who's hysterical 😂

Well they’re not too bright given where women suffer most violence.

How has this thread turned from women sharing their shit experiences of men to

'Men are being oppressed, imagine if it was a thread about an ethnic minority of people'

When I first posted on here I felt it was a good discussion- hearing experiences, considering reasons etc. I come back and it’s the women’s fault and/or most men are awesome and don’t have horrible thoughts.
I said last time I don’t wish to see men as awful but experience disappoints me - many, many women have been open about their experiences and we are now having personal experiences invalidated rather than discussing why it may happen. Note class, wealth, being well brought up do not mainly improve over testosteroned male thinking.
Such a shame we fight amongst ourselves.
For the record I was out against hotel protestors on Saturday, and will be again, as I strongly believe humans should be humane to others.

Reading so many awful stories from women harassed and abused by men has made me want to scream with rage - so yes, hysterical bitch pretty much nails it

Change the thread title at least . SOME men.

Hysterical bitch checking in here 🥰

Why

Its not a court transcript 😭

I think some of the responses crying 'it's not all men, it's not fair' are from men, but a good lot are from women.

First rule of the patriarchy is 'blame women' but the second rule is 'it's SO much easier if you can get women to blame women. Less work for men!'

The whole point about having problems with men is that we have literally no idea which men are going to do the worst things they can to us, wherever they draw their individual lines. So going through life with an evolving sense of the extent of men's depravity is the only sane option.

You discount other women's standpoints at your peril. You discount their testimony on individuals at your peril. No man will reward a woman for being on his side.

A lot of posters have sympathy for other women and realise how awful some men can be. Calling ALL men filthy and losers is lying.

Good job the thread title doesn't say that then...

Easy 😂 All you have to do is say "I think men are/do ..." followed by anything less than uncritically admiring, and you will be swamped by frothing & fuming replies:

• Pretending you said "all men"
• Diagnosing various deep character flaws in you
• Trying (and failing) to turn it back on "all women"
• Refuting any evidence that you may have a point
• Denying that men make obnoxious generalisations about women
• Accusing you of bigotry 🙄

And they wonder why we say men have fragile egos!

More rules of misogyny:

8. Men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are.
9. Men always know the “real reasons” for everything women do and say.
10. The worst thing about male violence is that it makes men look bad.
11. Whatever women suffer from, it is worse when it happens to men.
12. Women’s ability to recognize male behaviour patterns is misandry.

MOST aren't though.

I can relate to some of the experiences on here.
I was brought up with a misogynistic, abusive father who treated my mother and me with complete disregard. On the surface he was a respectable pillar of society but he regularly cheated on my mother and used prostitutes. Nobody in our middle class life would have seen beneath his veneer.
l learnt to keep out of his way, stay quiet, never to express any emotions and as a result I became a people pleaser with low self esteem and zero boundaries.
My two main relationships were in a lavender marriage- my husband having sex with men on his way home from work ( I found out when I caught a STD) He treated me with utter disdain after I had the children. Again, nobody would have ever guessed what went on behind closed doors. When I told him I wanted a divorce he raped me and pushed his car keys into my neck.
I escaped from him and married someone I knew from my childhood. I also knew all his family who were lovely. I felt like I had made a better choice in my second marriage and I felt safe. How wrong I was! It turned out he was a prolific cheater and also used prostitutes regularly. Like I said about my father and first husband, no one would have ever known. They came across as decent, good men who would help anyone out.
Throughout my life I was constantly groped at school (as were other girls)
I was pinned down by a man on the dance floor as I didn’t want to do a slow dance with him and he aggressively sucked and bit my neck leaving me with a horrible “love bite”
I was sunbathing in the park (decently clothed, just lying down, enjoying the lovely weather) and a man started masturbating over me.
I was sitting on the bus and a man put his fingers inside me as he was just about to get off the bus (again I wasn’t dressed provocatively, I was a sexually inexperienced 16 year old wearing an ordinary summer dress).
Since I have been single I have been approached by married men (friend’s husbands and work men ) for sex. I have not encouraged these men and I have shut down any sexual approaches immediately.
I think like OP I have tried to be nice and “kind” all my life but I realise this has not served me well. Since having counselling last year have firmer boundaries but I really feel the blame for these behaviours I’ve encountered should not be laid at my door. Nor should OP be victim blamed

I'd ask you to prove that but you absolutely can't.