To think Farage surely has to go

[OneKookyShark]

So Farage has some dodgy private company set up to avoid paying tax. Is he being pressured to resign as head of Reform? Of course not. Because he’s an entitled privileged man.

The double standards are incredible really. Here’s the story https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/05/nigel-farage-uses-private-company-to-pay-less-tax-on-gb-news-earnings

While I think Rayner had to resign, why are the same standards not being applied?

He's not Deputy PM at the moment though either. Plus he has set up Reform so they can't vote him out. And will talk his way out of it by saying his finances are all set up legally blah blah blah "blame immigrants" and everyone will cheer!

I assume the ‘ same standards are not being applied’ because it’s not the same situation and while he may be paying less tax through a tax loophole he’s not doing anything illegal.
Thats the difference .

Try to find a politician who doesn’t have a clever accountant. 🙃

This is not the same thing as the Rayner case AT ALL @OneKookyShark

One is legal , doesn't need review to decide whether it is legal or not, and is a method celebrated by his peers.

The other was underpaying a tax, describing the underpayment as a mistake, and in a party which has publicly spoken about housing and taxation needing to change.

I am NOT a Reform member, apologist or voter. But I think it's all too easy for newspapers to try and find the next scalp.

Until we outlaw all forms of legal tax avoidance schemes and watch the wealth drain away as we do it, it will be ever thus.

Rubbish. He’s avoiding tax. She made a stupid mistake. Both in public life but massive levels of hypocrisy. He’s the leader of a political party lecturing everyone else on how they should live while taking the piss.

All politicians should live by the same standards. We are paying their bloody salaries.

They don't care.

His platform isn't based on integrity or overing the law so nobody who would vote for him would give a fuck, same with Boris and the Tory party.

This is shit is great for them as it allows them to "both as bad as each other" the argument or shout hypocrisy, and pretend that billions in dodgy PPE contracts is the same as about 50 k in taxes.

It's also why labor are so thick for trying to defend it or contextualize it at all rather than booting her out as soon as it became known. Because it absolutely allows the other side to play bad faith comparison games.

But BOTH are in publicly funded roles.

Why the fuck should we pay his parliamentary salary so he can avoid tax on another one.

Utter hypocrisy.

Tax avoidance is legal.

Tax evasion isn’t.

I’d like to blast Farage into space but these are 2 different scenarios.

And for the record, I don’t think ANYONE serving in parliament should be allowed to have any other jobs.

He should serve the people of Clacton rather than gobbing off on GB news and swanning off to the US to slag off freedom of speech in the U.K.

hes an absolute charlatan.

He’s as dodgy a politician as any you’d meet. YANBU.

It’s entirely different OP. Farage’s approach is legal, Rayner’s is not, simple as that. He’s minimising tax via legal methods, she outright avoided £40k. If you or I had failed to honestly report our financial circumstances and dodge 40k tax do you think we’d be given such a sympathetic hearing as the PM has given her. Of course not. She had to go.

Weren’t posters defending Angela Rayner earlier this week by saying that she did not nothing wrong and tax avoidance is perfectly legal? Would that not also apply to Farage?

Granted, it did turn out that she was evading tax, which is an entirely different thing to avoiding it. Although, had it been merely avoidance then it still would have contradicted her previously stated views on tax avoidance being wrong and damaging to the country. AFAIAA Farage has been, and is, supporitve of tax cuts and avoidance, so him using those loopholes is to be expected, and not something that undermines his platform.

I say this as someone that isn’t a Farage fan.

It's not even a loophole. And the tax saved by using a limited company these days isn't as much as it used to be because corporation tax rates have increased and there is now a special rate of income tax on dividends. So in fact, lots of people are finding that using a limited company costs more in tax than being a self employed sole trader!

Another factor is that lots of "employers" won't allow their self employed/freelance staff to be paid as self employed sole traders and insist on them being limited companies to avoid the risk of them being challenged by HMRC that their workers are actually employees and subject to employers NIC and a whole raft of other employment costs such as sick and holiday pay etc.

He is a self serving hypocrite and anyone that votes for him is being duped.
He has low morals and toadys up to anyone he thinks he will get favour with
He has screwed the UK over already and will continue to do so
He totally should be held accountable for any tax dodges

Do you know what though, I have sympathy for Rayner because she made a stupid mistake and was trying to do right by her disabled child.

Yes she had to go- but I have sympathy.

Farage on the other hand is a self serving, lying, manipulative suit wearing acceptable face of the National front spreading his racist hate far and wide and trying to interfere in our democracy. I am sick
of his smirking face everywhere when his ideology is about as close to the Nazi’s as you can get.

The thing is, Rayner was disposable. Farage is more like Trump: he’s a one off that people polarise over.

not sure how this is different from thousands of companies across the country. He draws a salary/director’s earnings from a company that had a contract to provide services to news media

my builder has a company that provides building services to other people/companies and from which he draws a salary/earnings

Yes. She was a working class woman from a council estate. The right wing media wanted her to stay in her lane - she didn’t come from privilege.

I admired her- I hope she will be back at some point.

Farage can rot in hell as far as I am concerned.

Good old Nige eh.

Not doing anything wrong at all- man of the people eh 🙄

Oh, the Chips On The Shoulders have arrived.Guaranteed to end rational conversation.

A deputy PM making a stupid mistake like that does not make me have any sympathy for her!

I do have sympathy for her, but she still had to go. To remain in place as housing secretary when you’ve evaded £40k tax in a property deal is entirely wrong.

The lengths people will go to, they'll bend over backwards, to clear Uncle Nigel of any sort of wrong doing is insane. We're not a well country.

The man was in a foreign country yesterday talking our country down. The so called biggest patriot (🤮) in the country. He's been involved in more dodgy scams than most politicians. Yet people still put him up on a pedestal as a man of the people.

Like I say, we're not a well country

Now I hate Farage with a total vengeance as any one can see by my previous posts , but it isn’t actually illegal what he has done and not dodgy - as someone who has a business it makes sense in his case to split out some activities into a limited company purely in case he got sued etc - he still has to pay corporation tax on profits and dividend tax if he takes money out of it ( and dividend payments aren’t tax deductible) - it won’t actually overall save him much tax -although it does save some NIs unless he actually salaries himself out if it . But from a protective point of view in his position I see why he has done it given his multiple income streams - just annoys me that the ultimate agitator/bullshitter gets to do quite nicely thank you

Yes, she should have had better advice and have known that this would blow up. I do agree.

But it’s the hypocrisy I cannot bear- the tories who fiddled their expenses making an example of her.

And Farage barely bothering with Clacton in a role he was ELECTED to do while earning money and avoiding tax on it from his other job. Its all grim.