To think Farage surely has to go

[OneKookyShark]

So Farage has some dodgy private company set up to avoid paying tax. Is he being pressured to resign as head of Reform? Of course not. Because he’s an entitled privileged man.

The double standards are incredible really. Here’s the story https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/05/nigel-farage-uses-private-company-to-pay-less-tax-on-gb-news-earnings

While I think Rayner had to resign, why are the same standards not being applied?

Might depend who paid for the property? has he paid? in other words a gift, who benefits on its sale? IHT dodge? which was what Rayner was first accused of.

He wants to be PM, of a country with no money, you'd have thought he want to pitch in?

It will be up to hmrc to decide if she has acted illegally, if she gets a penalty only, then they will have decided she was careless, a mistake.

Then they should move to a communal society or join a convent.

After yesterday's horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk, I firmly believe that as we get closer to the 2029 election and assuming that Reform remain ahead in the polls then there is a very real danger to the life of Farage from the left.

Do you even know the political motivations of the gunman?

It was a far right man that killed Jo Cox, who make terrible threats to Abbott, who tried burning down hotels, jess phillips who has had a panic room installed....

Violence respects no political boundaries, no matter how you and others want to make it only a left wing issue.

See Robinson.

The pp has a point, the left do seem to be getting more violent.

Are they?

Agreed…Gen X, nearly mortgage free on £850k house (before you ask—not in receipt of family money/inheritance), not public sector, have DC, and expecting to retire early. Much more “liberal” than I was when younger…although I consider myself a centrist, so I’m not a Labour voter. Although I will say…I would shit in my hands and clap before voting for Reform, and would rather live under a Labour government than a Reform government. Reform are dangerous AF.

Hard to be objective as I’m on the right, but I’d say so . Even the language is loaded and aggressive, if you say you want controlled immigration you are labelled a racist. I think it’s a sign that current left wing ideology doesn’t hold up to any scrutiny.

i ve yet to hear a Labour minister say that.

I'm what you would call a Leftie, i want the boats stopped, what i don't want is the Taliban given money and women deported back there.

I also don't like the demonisation of migrants as all rapists, the far right and Reform have jumped on this, often with a great deal of violence.

Tbf a smaller group of people can afford Labour in power. That’s part of their problem. Others not in the same position see higher taxes, lost livelihoods / jobs and just generally a tough time.

So pp says "If well off and older, will be a Tory" but now its "Well you can afford Labour....."

What higher taxes, affecting the less well off?

Which is it?

Under the Cons inflation was 12%.... no one could afford that... which is why they have just 120 MPs.

It’s not rare at all. Yes, olde4 generations skew more conservative but that doesn’t make it rare not to. None of my contemporaries in my social circle have. And I really dislike the whole division around public/private sectors. I’ve done both. It’s irrelevant to political opinion.
Having children should make you more left wing though. I want a decent state to be around for my adult child - workers’ rights, maternity rights, health rights. Don’t you? Farage doesn’t.

No. The left think nobody should be poor.

Did you feel the same fear for left wing politicians when the Democratic Senator and his wife were killed? It’s not a left/right issue.

How can you say that without irony while looking at last year’s riots and the aggression outside asylum hotels? Those aren't left wing people.

The 'Right had 14 years to show us the difference they could make....

14 years later, everything is worse, despite Austerity, they manged to take debt from 65% to almost 100%, increased migration from 240k p.a to 1.2m p.a, yet still left us with huge labour shortages...

Quite a trick....

So, do you think your views on this may be slightly tainted by your feelings about each individual? 😂

Or created by the individuals? What good has Farage ever done? Rayner has been stupid and I’m cross about it, but she’s done a lot of good in her life. It’s been about trying to help the least well off - even when she ceased to be one of them.

They were both democratically elected.
Evidently not everyone agrees with you. That’s what democracy is all about.

I didn’t say they shouldn’t both be in Parliament. I offered a reason someone might like one of them and dislike the other. I wasn’t aware democracy meant I had to like all MPs.

No, you’re right, you don’t have to like them all. But it helps if you can recognise that when you are considering an issue around an individual, your thoughts on the matter are somewhat tainted by how you feel about them.
For you, Rayner’s thing was ‘ just a mistake’ (it wasn’t, btw! 😂)
For you, Farage should be sacked for avoiding tax. For others, he’s broken no law, so carry on.

I just find public sector workers more left wing, it makes sense as their money comes from tax payers.

I want a decent state to be around for my adult child - workers’ rights, maternity rights, health rights

That all sounds great and I’m with you so far. But where does mass immigration, education tax, children having their sex chemically altered, renaming streets, custodial sentences for tweets, drag queen reading time, sectarian politics, ignoring grooming gangs, property taxes, access to institutions based on race and class, taking the knee, high taxes, discriminatory employment practices based on protected characteristics, concepts such as white privilege etc come into it ?

I didn’t say it was a mistake. I said it was stupid. My point is my feelings about politicians are shaped by them rather than the other way round. I don’t think Farage is an arse because of feelings - I think he’s an arse because he behaves like an arse.

If public sector workers are more left wing I think the cause and effect might be the other way round. They aren’t left wing because they work in the public sector. They aren’t working in the public sector because they are left wing. Jobs in the public sector are often for the public good and less well paid than the qualifications needed might command if directed towards making someone a profit. It’s not because they are paid by the tax payer, that’s for sure. They are also tax payers and have all the same concerns about good use of tax money as anyone else.

Edit: I’m not responding to your nonsense list - much of that isn’t happening or isn’t anything to worry about when set against the end of human; rights, workers rights, maternity leave, equal treatment for different racial and social groups etc.

“I feel sorry for Rayner because she made a stupid mistake…“ you said.

The point is YOU think he behaves like an arse. They are YOUR thoughts and YOUR feelings. Others disagree.