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To think Farage surely has to go

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OneKookyShark · 05/09/2025 13:50

So Farage has some dodgy private company set up to avoid paying tax. Is he being pressured to resign as head of Reform? Of course not. Because he’s an entitled privileged man.

The double standards are incredible really. Here’s the story https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/05/nigel-farage-uses-private-company-to-pay-less-tax-on-gb-news-earnings

While I think Rayner had to resign, why are the same standards not being applied?

Nigel Farage uses private company to pay less tax on GB News earnings

Exclusive: Reform leader’s use of personal services firm is a practice criticised across the political spectrum

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/05/nigel-farage-uses-private-company-to-pay-less-tax-on-gb-news-earnings

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OneKookyShark · 05/09/2025 14:45

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OMG it’s like some brainwashed mantra isn’t it. It’s so disturbing. A complete absence of critical thinking.

Can see how the Nazi’s rose to power.

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VioletandDill · 05/09/2025 14:46

BlakeCarrington · 05/09/2025 14:31

I’m not a Farage fan and I do have sympathy for Rayner. But Farage has acted within the bounds of the law and loads of eg bbc employees use the same structure. It is LEGAL. Rayner’s behaviour was ILLEGAL. Do you understand the difference?

I'm sure it is legal. It's still dodging tax though and it's unethical. And my biggest problem with the poisonous, traitorous Mr Toad isn't the tax dodging. (and yes, it's LEGAL. VERY WELL DONE)

It's the propaganda, the racism, the constant badmouthing of a country he's supposed to be proud of, the lies, Brexit, the ignoring of his duties, the fact that he's besties with a wannabe-dictator-and-child-rapist-who-is-in-turn-besties-with-Putin.

The fact that the papers are so focussed on an MP being naughty with tax (quelle suprise!) and NOT the human thumb's trip to the states baffles and frightens me.

Farage cares about Farage. He cares about lining his own pockets.

BallerinaRadio · 05/09/2025 14:46

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Well with his previous successes at the ballot box it's nailed on right?

He might not even get back in at Clacton if his constituents realise he's not actually doing anything for them.

Uncle Nigel is getting nowhere near number 10

InterIgnis · 05/09/2025 14:47

OneKookyShark · 05/09/2025 14:08

Do you know what though, I have sympathy for Rayner because she made a stupid mistake and was trying to do right by her disabled child.

Yes she had to go- but I have sympathy.

Farage on the other hand is a self serving, lying, manipulative suit wearing acceptable face of the National front spreading his racist hate far and wide and trying to interfere in our democracy. I am sick
of his smirking face everywhere when his ideology is about as close to the Nazi’s as you can get.

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There are plenty of things to criticize Farage for without having to resort to making things up and conflating his situation with that of Angela Rayner. If someone uses legal methods to reduce tax they’ve by definition done nothing wrong. Similarly, if tax avoidance isn’t something they’ve spent years vocally opposing and campaigning against, and is in fact something they’ve been supportive of, availing themselves to benefits of those loopholes is not hypocrisy.

Angela Rayner did not make a ‘mistake’. She was privately doing the very thing she was publicly lambasting as a moral evil. She then tried to throw a small company under the proverbial bus in an attempt to lie her way out of it.

OneKookyShark · 05/09/2025 14:49

InterIgnis · 05/09/2025 14:47

There are plenty of things to criticize Farage for without having to resort to making things up and conflating his situation with that of Angela Rayner. If someone uses legal methods to reduce tax they’ve by definition done nothing wrong. Similarly, if tax avoidance isn’t something they’ve spent years vocally opposing and campaigning against, and is in fact something they’ve been supportive of, availing themselves to benefits of those loopholes is not hypocrisy.

Angela Rayner did not make a ‘mistake’. She was privately doing the very thing she was publicly lambasting as a moral evil. She then tried to throw a small company under the proverbial bus in an attempt to lie her way out of it.

i’m not making things up though. I am making a point about the generalised hypocrisy of if all.

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AlertLimeZebra · 05/09/2025 14:51

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spoonbillstretford · 05/09/2025 14:51

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I feel sorry for you. Stories like this show that people are utterly deluded if they think the likes of Farage and Tice, a currency trader and a multi-millionaire businessman give a flying monkeys about the white working class in this country. They are just using you to sow the seeds of class and race division to make more money for them and their disaster capitalist mates and to ensure the wealth keeps being redistributed upwards while people fight amongst themselves and look the other way, instead of fighting against a common enemy: men like them.

If they get into power it will very much be one rule for them and another for everyone else.

BallerinaRadio · 05/09/2025 14:51

InterIgnis · 05/09/2025 14:47

There are plenty of things to criticize Farage for without having to resort to making things up and conflating his situation with that of Angela Rayner. If someone uses legal methods to reduce tax they’ve by definition done nothing wrong. Similarly, if tax avoidance isn’t something they’ve spent years vocally opposing and campaigning against, and is in fact something they’ve been supportive of, availing themselves to benefits of those loopholes is not hypocrisy.

Angela Rayner did not make a ‘mistake’. She was privately doing the very thing she was publicly lambasting as a moral evil. She then tried to throw a small company under the proverbial bus in an attempt to lie her way out of it.

Oh ok well let's leave Uncle Nigel to just crack on with it eh? We'll beat Angela Rayner with a stick for a few days and ignore Uncle Nigel

MyTommyGunDont · 05/09/2025 14:52

Farage isn’t actually avoiding tax with a personal service company. The main reason that structure existed was to help employers avoid employer NIC. Now there’s enough rules in place to make it not worth it, and shifting the burden to the employer which is why broadcasters are now discouraging them.

Farage pays 25% on his TV income, but he can’t spend it without paying more tax. If he wants the money he earns to pay the mortgage, go on holiday, buy a boat, gift to the kids, he has to pay another 40% tax on top, which will mean he pays more tax than someone just paying 45% in the first place.

If you are earning money you don’t need, it’s a sensible structure, but it’s not really tax avoidance as you just end up with money in a pot that you can’t access without paying more tax…

ChillieChicky · 05/09/2025 14:53

You may not agree with it but LOTS of people buy property through a LTD company, it’s not illegal

BallerinaRadio · 05/09/2025 14:54

Mumsnet should be sponsored by an osteopath because so many members must have bad backs from bending over backwards to defend Uncle Nigel

AlertLimeZebra · 05/09/2025 14:54

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Unlichtie · 05/09/2025 14:55

OneKookyShark · 05/09/2025 14:49

i’m not making things up though. I am making a point about the generalised hypocrisy of if all.

But you're trying to make the point by comparing him doing something completely normal and legal to someone not... so it falls at the first hurdle.

cardibach · 05/09/2025 14:55

PhuckTrump · 05/09/2025 14:42

Not only was he talking the UK down….he outright asked that country to place economic sanctions on the UK. For that reason, he needs to go.

This. It’s totally unacceptable for an elected politician to behave like this.

BallerinaRadio · 05/09/2025 14:56

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We've moved onto racist grifters who belong to the Elite? Not sure it's much of an improvement

OneKookyShark · 05/09/2025 14:57

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Jesus. Read the room. And a fucking history book.

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AlertLimeZebra · 05/09/2025 14:59

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PhuckTrump · 05/09/2025 15:00

cardibach · 05/09/2025 14:55

This. It’s totally unacceptable for an elected politician to behave like this.

Further proof that Nige DGAF about the everyman/everywoman, and is only looking out for No 1. After throwing constituents under the bus by asking for sanctions on the UK, he trotted off to a private lunch with Trump. The man is a complete grifter.

OneKookyShark · 05/09/2025 15:00

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Honestly, your ignorance is embarrassing! And at the level of most Reform supporters it seems.

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OneKookyShark · 05/09/2025 15:02

PhuckTrump · 05/09/2025 15:00

Further proof that Nige DGAF about the everyman/everywoman, and is only looking out for No 1. After throwing constituents under the bus by asking for sanctions on the UK, he trotted off to a private lunch with Trump. The man is a complete grifter.

Exactly. It’s actually unprecedented that a U.K. politician would behave in this way

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RedRiverShore5 · 05/09/2025 15:04

It's all legal , whether you like it or not.

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 05/09/2025 15:04

A socialist got caught red handed doing what socialists always do, its going to be an even bigger stretch than usual to blame this on Reform, Tories, racists or right wing media.

KoiTetra · 05/09/2025 15:06

OneKookyShark · 05/09/2025 13:56

Rubbish. He’s avoiding tax. She made a stupid mistake. Both in public life but massive levels of hypocrisy. He’s the leader of a political party lecturing everyone else on how they should live while taking the piss.

All politicians should live by the same standards. We are paying their bloody salaries.

But in the eyes of the law it is two very different scenarios.

One is tax avoidance - legally minimising your tax bill
One is tax evasion - Illegally reducing your tax bill

Anyone not using tax avoidance is frankly an idiot. Why would you choose to pay more tax than you need to? If you can legally structure things to reduce twx why wouldn't you?

On the other hand tax evasion is totally wrong.

The supermarket equivalent is going to tesco armed with a purse full of vouchers and strategically buying things to save as much as possible vs shoplifting.

Maray1967 · 05/09/2025 15:07

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I think quite a few French people assumed Marine le Pen would be in power now.

Four years is a long time.

ElectoralControversy · 05/09/2025 15:09

His supporters are either so rich, they're doing the same sort of tax avoidance themselves

Or sufficiently...politically uninterested, let's say, to overlook his dodginess because they've fallen for the story that immigrants are responsible for all the ills of the country and think he's the man to sort it all out.
Despite the whole movie having run before starring Brexit 🤷‍♀️

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all that

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