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To think Farage surely has to go

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OneKookyShark · 05/09/2025 13:50

So Farage has some dodgy private company set up to avoid paying tax. Is he being pressured to resign as head of Reform? Of course not. Because he’s an entitled privileged man.

The double standards are incredible really. Here’s the story https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/05/nigel-farage-uses-private-company-to-pay-less-tax-on-gb-news-earnings

While I think Rayner had to resign, why are the same standards not being applied?

Nigel Farage uses private company to pay less tax on GB News earnings

Exclusive: Reform leader’s use of personal services firm is a practice criticised across the political spectrum

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/05/nigel-farage-uses-private-company-to-pay-less-tax-on-gb-news-earnings

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OneKookyShark · 05/09/2025 15:10

KoiTetra · 05/09/2025 15:06

But in the eyes of the law it is two very different scenarios.

One is tax avoidance - legally minimising your tax bill
One is tax evasion - Illegally reducing your tax bill

Anyone not using tax avoidance is frankly an idiot. Why would you choose to pay more tax than you need to? If you can legally structure things to reduce twx why wouldn't you?

On the other hand tax evasion is totally wrong.

The supermarket equivalent is going to tesco armed with a purse full of vouchers and strategically buying things to save as much as possible vs shoplifting.

Yea, he sounds like an Angel doesn’t he? 🙄

“Farage claimed last year to have “bought a house” in his constituency, but the property is actually owned in the name of his partner, meaning he legally avoided higher-rate stamp duty on the purchase of an additional home – given that he already owns other properties.
The use of personal service companies is not illegal, but it has been criticised across the political spectrum as a way to reduce tax bills. Farage has declined to publish his tax returns for 2023/24”

Nigel Farage said he’d ‘bought a house’ in Clacton – it’s actually owned by his girlfriend

Reform UK leader said he’d ‘exchanged contracts’ to buy property last November, but it’s in name of Laure Ferrari

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/may/23/nigel-farage-clacton-home-bought-girlfriend-property

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OneKookyShark · 05/09/2025 15:11

BallerinaRadio · 05/09/2025 14:54

Mumsnet should be sponsored by an osteopath because so many members must have bad backs from bending over backwards to defend Uncle Nigel

Right!? It’s laughable isn’t it!

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Quite ridiculous and desperate isn’t it.

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I get people are feeling it re Rayner going and you want similar but I don’t think your story has it beyond a thread here.

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OneKookyShark · 05/09/2025 15:21

EasternStandard · 05/09/2025 15:18

I get people are feeling it re Rayner going and you want similar but I don’t think your story has it beyond a thread here.

🤣 Excellent try. It’s all over social media. And the press.

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BilbaoBaggage · 05/09/2025 15:24

Can't abide the man. He utterly disgusts me, as do the politics that Reform stands for.

Sadly, they are a company not a political party and the people who would have to remove him share his revolting grifting traits and populist views. They celebrate him rather than seeing him for what he is, as demonstrated on this thread.

I do always think of Sliding Doors and how different this country could be if he was no longer in the public eye. How much damage him believing he is invincible has allowed him to wreak.

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OneKookyShark · 05/09/2025 15:21

🤣 Excellent try. It’s all over social media. And the press.

So you think he’ll be gone soon? You seem more focussed on Farage than most, nothing building on the radio on this.

PhuckTrump · 05/09/2025 15:24

ElectoralControversy · 05/09/2025 15:09

His supporters are either so rich, they're doing the same sort of tax avoidance themselves

Or sufficiently...politically uninterested, let's say, to overlook his dodginess because they've fallen for the story that immigrants are responsible for all the ills of the country and think he's the man to sort it all out.
Despite the whole movie having run before starring Brexit 🤷‍♀️

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all that

Read: Trump Playbook.

Tax breaks for millionaires.
Convince the working class that immigrants are the source of all of their problems, and the solution is to deport 12 million people.

Itsjustlikethat · 05/09/2025 15:27

It just hits different when a politician advocating for higher taxes is caught evading taxes herself.

Before anyone comes after me, I dislike both, and much more so Farage. But on this very specific topic (tax optimisation, if you will), Rayner comes across as the bigger hypocrite.

StarlightRobot · 05/09/2025 15:27

The entirety legal steps Farage has taken are not remotely comparable to Angela Rayner’s illegal tax underpayment.

cardibach · 05/09/2025 15:30

StarlightRobot · 05/09/2025 15:27

The entirety legal steps Farage has taken are not remotely comparable to Angela Rayner’s illegal tax underpayment.

Where do you stand on him asking another country to apply sanctions on the U.K.? Is that totally above board too?
How about him not doing surgeries in his constituency and lying about why?
Or turning up to way below the average sessions/votes in the House?
Or earning more than any other MP in second/third/nth jobs? (One of which is advising the rich on how to offshore tax by getting multiple passports - hypocrisy you say?)

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He didn’t use the word sanctions, no. He encouraged them to use economic levers though. You say potato….

Newbutoldfather · 05/09/2025 15:37

What Rayner has done is not tax evasion. Tax evasion is deliberate evading of tax for which you have to prove intent.

She will just have to pay the money back plus (perhaps) a penalty of about 1/3 on top of it.

She was actually told by two firms that she didn’t need to pay the extra tax BUT they qualified that with telling her to seek specialist tax advice, which she failed to do. That’s why she had to go.

The key difference is that Farage has not been shown to be a hypocrite over this, as (to the best of my knowledge) he hasn’t criticised others over tax evasion. As what he is doing is legal, he will probably be fine.

Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 15:37

Farage is looking very likely to be the next PM. He already well ahead in the polls. The only people that need to worry and the feckless and lazy who might have to get off their arses for their cash. The country will change massively for the better.

Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 15:39

Newbutoldfather · 05/09/2025 15:37

What Rayner has done is not tax evasion. Tax evasion is deliberate evading of tax for which you have to prove intent.

She will just have to pay the money back plus (perhaps) a penalty of about 1/3 on top of it.

She was actually told by two firms that she didn’t need to pay the extra tax BUT they qualified that with telling her to seek specialist tax advice, which she failed to do. That’s why she had to go.

The key difference is that Farage has not been shown to be a hypocrite over this, as (to the best of my knowledge) he hasn’t criticised others over tax evasion. As what he is doing is legal, he will probably be fine.

Quite Rayner was at best negligent, at worst it was downright tax fraud. I thought it was the wealthy not paying tax that the labour supporters hated?

blackpooolrock · 05/09/2025 15:44

Sturgeon uses a private company to avoid paying taxes so does Humza Yousaf. I'm sure many other MP's also have companies they own to minimise their taxes.

cardibach · 05/09/2025 15:48

blackpooolrock · 05/09/2025 15:44

Sturgeon uses a private company to avoid paying taxes so does Humza Yousaf. I'm sure many other MP's also have companies they own to minimise their taxes.

That it’s legal and others do it doesn’t make it right…

EasternStandard · 05/09/2025 15:49

Newbutoldfather · 05/09/2025 15:37

What Rayner has done is not tax evasion. Tax evasion is deliberate evading of tax for which you have to prove intent.

She will just have to pay the money back plus (perhaps) a penalty of about 1/3 on top of it.

She was actually told by two firms that she didn’t need to pay the extra tax BUT they qualified that with telling her to seek specialist tax advice, which she failed to do. That’s why she had to go.

The key difference is that Farage has not been shown to be a hypocrite over this, as (to the best of my knowledge) he hasn’t criticised others over tax evasion. As what he is doing is legal, he will probably be fine.

Rayner broke the ministerial code didn’t she? That’s a problem plus the lies about getting advice.