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To think Farage surely has to go

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OneKookyShark · 05/09/2025 13:50

So Farage has some dodgy private company set up to avoid paying tax. Is he being pressured to resign as head of Reform? Of course not. Because he’s an entitled privileged man.

The double standards are incredible really. Here’s the story https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/05/nigel-farage-uses-private-company-to-pay-less-tax-on-gb-news-earnings

While I think Rayner had to resign, why are the same standards not being applied?

Nigel Farage uses private company to pay less tax on GB News earnings

Exclusive: Reform leader’s use of personal services firm is a practice criticised across the political spectrum

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/05/nigel-farage-uses-private-company-to-pay-less-tax-on-gb-news-earnings

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Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 16:31

BallerinaRadio · 05/09/2025 16:29

I've just seen Andrea Jenkyns at the conference. If that's what the country really wants then I'm leaving now.

People always say that will leave. They rarely deliver on their promise.

cardibach · 05/09/2025 16:32

Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 16:30

No need to explain the system. There will obviously be some bumps and bruises but it is hardly like the other parties get candidates who are free of lies and corruption. Labour have only been in a year and have literally fallen apart. Starmer's busy moving the deckchairs today yet is powerless against the Reeves iceberg. The Conservatives are falling into oblivion.

I didn’t explain the system. I explained Reform’s issues. Can you explain why this won’t be massively difficult for them, given their previous form?
Labour haven’t ‘fallen apart’ literally or figuratively.
Reshuffles are normal, and this one was scheduled anyway.

AlertLimeZebra · 05/09/2025 16:32

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Goldenbear · 05/09/2025 16:36

Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 15:37

Farage is looking very likely to be the next PM. He already well ahead in the polls. The only people that need to worry and the feckless and lazy who might have to get off their arses for their cash. The country will change massively for the better.

Please don't delude yourself that this is the case, do you honestly think intelligent people paying lots of tax, are going to trust Farage with the economy.

BIossomtoes · 05/09/2025 16:40

Goldenbear · 05/09/2025 16:36

Please don't delude yourself that this is the case, do you honestly think intelligent people paying lots of tax, are going to trust Farage with the economy.

Exactly. As someone who’s neither feckless nor lazy but does possess a modicum of economic literacy, a Reform government terrifies me. Truss would look like an economic genius by comparison.

Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 16:41

cardibach · 05/09/2025 16:32

I didn’t explain the system. I explained Reform’s issues. Can you explain why this won’t be massively difficult for them, given their previous form?
Labour haven’t ‘fallen apart’ literally or figuratively.
Reshuffles are normal, and this one was scheduled anyway.

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This was one scheduled? For a Friday afternoon? When no-one is London? Reform have already been able to take councils. They will be able to take more before the election. They will fill safer seats with competent experienced business people who will be able to step into cabinet roles on day one. They will then fill with Juniors. There is no reason they can't do it. As noted before the bar is not high for competence.

Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 16:43

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The thing that generally stops them is they realise that the benefits gravy train we have here doesn't exist elsewhere and they would have to provide for themselves.

BIossomtoes · 05/09/2025 16:43

They will fill safer seats with competent experienced business people who will be able to step into cabinet roles on day one.

Why aren’t they doing that now? If there are so many of these exceptional people lining up to represent them, how come they have teenagers leading councils and responsible for multi million pound services?

HRTQueen · 05/09/2025 16:43

cardibach · 05/09/2025 16:05

She made a mistake. She didn’t ask for extra advice. That’s all.

keep telling yourself that ... most of us are not so easily fooled

Most would also follow advice from a legal team to gain further expert advice, twice

Lucky she has gone, given that she makes such mistakes. And people were hoping for her to be the next PM 🙄- the left in the labour party never fail to shoot themselves in the foot and damage the party

Skipthisbit · 05/09/2025 16:51

cardibach · 05/09/2025 16:32

I didn’t explain the system. I explained Reform’s issues. Can you explain why this won’t be massively difficult for them, given their previous form?
Labour haven’t ‘fallen apart’ literally or figuratively.
Reshuffles are normal, and this one was scheduled anyway.

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I absolutely agree that the fact we have a prime minister and a party based system makes it much harder than US presidency BUT conservatives are dead in the water so it’s entirely possible that a significant proportion of the ones left will jump ship to reform unless the Tories pull off a remarkable turnarounds. And there are a lot of ex -Tories around remember …… BJ govt won a landslide not that long ago. There are a lot of credible right wing candidates who would potentially be more than willing to sign up if that was there way back to power

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 05/09/2025 16:51

Goldenbear · 05/09/2025 16:36

Please don't delude yourself that this is the case, do you honestly think intelligent people paying lots of tax, are going to trust Farage with the economy.

Can I remind you who we have in charge right now, how could it be worse?These are people who introduced an education tax and find 20 billion black holes every three months.

I really don’t think people are going to be frightened into not giving reform a chance, there’s not much to lose.

Goldenbear · 05/09/2025 16:52

BIossomtoes · 05/09/2025 16:40

Exactly. As someone who’s neither feckless nor lazy but does possess a modicum of economic literacy, a Reform government terrifies me. Truss would look like an economic genius by comparison.

I know right, the 'Net Contributers' I know will not be trusting Reform with the economy.

Goldenbear · 05/09/2025 16:54

Goldenbear · 05/09/2025 16:52

I know right, the 'Net Contributers' I know will not be trusting Reform with the economy.

Can't believe I just used that term,😱

PhuckTrump · 05/09/2025 16:54

Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 16:43

The thing that generally stops them is they realise that the benefits gravy train we have here doesn't exist elsewhere and they would have to provide for themselves.

What benefit gravy train? I get precisely £0.

Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 16:55

Skipthisbit · 05/09/2025 16:51

I absolutely agree that the fact we have a prime minister and a party based system makes it much harder than US presidency BUT conservatives are dead in the water so it’s entirely possible that a significant proportion of the ones left will jump ship to reform unless the Tories pull off a remarkable turnarounds. And there are a lot of ex -Tories around remember …… BJ govt won a landslide not that long ago. There are a lot of credible right wing candidates who would potentially be more than willing to sign up if that was there way back to power

There's no way that the Tories can turn it around. Kemi is car crash. There just isn't enough time to go through the process to remove her, appoint someone new (and who would that be anyway?) and then put forward a sensible set of policies. I doubt they will be able to find candidates prepared to stand in enough constituencies.

TopPocketFind · 05/09/2025 16:55

Goldenbear · 05/09/2025 16:52

I know right, the 'Net Contributers' I know will not be trusting Reform with the economy.

Wasn't their manifesto dubbed Truss on steroids?

Goldenbear · 05/09/2025 16:55

ThatWaryOchreQuoter · 05/09/2025 16:51

Can I remind you who we have in charge right now, how could it be worse?These are people who introduced an education tax and find 20 billion black holes every three months.

I really don’t think people are going to be frightened into not giving reform a chance, there’s not much to lose.

"Not much to lose" - understatement of the year!

Bananaandmangosmoothie · 05/09/2025 16:58

Cloanie · 05/09/2025 13:54

Try to find a politician who doesn’t have a clever accountant. 🙃

Well, Angela Rayner, apparently!

Skipthisbit · 05/09/2025 16:58

Goldenbear · 05/09/2025 16:52

I know right, the 'Net Contributers' I know will not be trusting Reform with the economy.

Umm….. only 47% of the population are net contributors……

Boomer55 · 05/09/2025 16:59

He’s not set himself as an authentic “Poverty driven Ange from the block” figure though, has he?

Goldenbear · 05/09/2025 17:01

TopPocketFind · 05/09/2025 16:55

Wasn't their manifesto dubbed Truss on steroids?

Yes,"Trussonomics" I believe, I think their Manifesto also included something about everyone having to wear Union Jack socks - I hope made here and not in China!

TopPocketFind · 05/09/2025 17:01

Boomer55 · 05/09/2025 16:59

He’s not set himself as an authentic “Poverty driven Ange from the block” figure though, has he?

He does set himself up as anti establishment man of the people

HerewardtheSleepy · 05/09/2025 17:02

OneKookyShark · 05/09/2025 13:50

So Farage has some dodgy private company set up to avoid paying tax. Is he being pressured to resign as head of Reform? Of course not. Because he’s an entitled privileged man.

The double standards are incredible really. Here’s the story https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/sep/05/nigel-farage-uses-private-company-to-pay-less-tax-on-gb-news-earnings

While I think Rayner had to resign, why are the same standards not being applied?

Or is it because 90% plus, of all freelance and self-employed people do exactly the same?

Goldenbear · 05/09/2025 17:03

Skipthisbit · 05/09/2025 16:58

Umm….. only 47% of the population are net contributors……

And- what are you umming about?

Skipthisbit · 05/09/2025 17:03

Bumblebee72 · 05/09/2025 16:55

There's no way that the Tories can turn it around. Kemi is car crash. There just isn't enough time to go through the process to remove her, appoint someone new (and who would that be anyway?) and then put forward a sensible set of policies. I doubt they will be able to find candidates prepared to stand in enough constituencies.

You misunderstand me (or I didn’t explain well enough!)
The poster I was responding to was saying that Reform would not be able to win the next GE as we have a party based system and they wouldn’t be able to put forward enough candidates to achieve this. I was pointing out that with the Tories dead in the water, it is entirely possible that Tory MPs both current and those who lost their seats may well decide to join Reform. Farage doesn’t need to find 100’s of new people to run as MPs …. He just needs to ‘repurpose’ ex Tory ones who may see this as a way back in.