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If one was to ‘find’ some spray paint how might one amusingly deface a St George’s Cross (hypothetically ofc)

217 replies

Namechangechangeobv · 01/09/2025 19:29

Just as the title says really. We’ve thought of a game of noughts and crosses but figured you Vipers might have a good idea of some other visual effects that could be added. TIA

You are being unreasonable = stop
spoiling the knuckledraggers fun

you are not being unreasonable = crack on gals!

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Gingernessy · 01/09/2025 20:47

Namechangechangeobv · 01/09/2025 20:43

Some great ideas here - thank you!

Or you could go for the grown up option - Hands off our flag?

Namechangechangeobv · 01/09/2025 20:47

ViperHalliwell · 01/09/2025 20:36

There's nothing wrong with the St. George's cross except the many ways that people have misused it. Ones that are flying legitimately (on public or COE buildings as always, or on private buildings) should be left alone. Ones that idiots have put up in unsafe places should be taken down.

BUT the ones people have painted on traffic circles and such by random artists are fair game. You could write ❤REFUGEES WELCOME ❤ or if you want to be more subtle ❤WELCOME TO ENGLAND ❤in contrasting paint either above, below or next to the flag image, or (more controversial) across the horizontal bar.

Other possibilities:
Deport racists
Embrace humanity
Erase hate
Fight ignorance
New home, new hope
No one is illegal
No place for hate
No to fascism
One race: human
One world 🌍
Peace ☮️
Safety, shelter, support
Together we thrive
Welcome, humans !!

Yes, this was our other thought.

I like the idea of reclaiming it for what it truly means and stands for - rather than what it’s sadly become.

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RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 01/09/2025 20:48

LadyRoughDiamond · 01/09/2025 20:42

There are few things in life that aren’t vastly improved by a pair of googly eyes. Don’t deface the flags, just make them look vaguely ridiculous (and a lot friendlier).

Yes!

cardibach · 01/09/2025 20:49

Notashamed13 · 01/09/2025 20:43

But then I wouldn't do anything to any country's flag as its very disrespectful.

Nobody is talking about doing anything to a flag. Just a badly graffitied pseudo representation of it painted for racist purposes.
Though I would just leave them. The racists involved would live the attention.

Namechangechangeobv · 01/09/2025 20:49

Gingernessy · 01/09/2025 20:47

Or you could go for the grown up option - Hands off our flag?

Yep that’s a good one too. But a little tongue in cheek humour as well feels like a good option. Love the Googly eyes idea. But like others have said, it’s not difficult to fan the fires that seem to be burning. Hard to know whether to actually do something about it or just let it die out.

My heart just drops a little every time I go past one.

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Wowwee1234 · 01/09/2025 20:49

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NamefromNowhere · 01/09/2025 20:49

Welsh people fly their flag: "All fine, good for them."
Scottish people fly their flag: "All fine, good for them."
English people fly their flag: "Racists! Nazis! Knuckle draggers!"

English people are allowed to be proud of being English and proud of their flag, just like the people of every other country around the world.

Notashamed13 · 01/09/2025 20:49

I'm actually thinking of.reporting this post as hate speech. I'm very offended.

Namechangechangeobv · 01/09/2025 20:50

Wowwee1234 · 01/09/2025 20:49

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That’s amazing. Especially for where we live!! Perfect. When you see it on the news, you’ll know 😉

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wonderstuff · 01/09/2025 20:50

Someone has painted lots of red hearts in the road near me, which looks lovely.

These spray paint red crosses look so tatty and presumably councils are going to have to invest money in cleaning them off the roundabouts and exchange boxes and road signs these eejits have defaced. So many things you can do to show pride in your environment and they do this.

Digidestined · 01/09/2025 20:50

Notashamed13 · 01/09/2025 20:49

I'm actually thinking of.reporting this post as hate speech. I'm very offended.

😂

ChickenThigh · 01/09/2025 20:51

When we’re on a rollercoaster ride to Reformsville I’m not sure continuing the division in the country is the best move.

Assuming all flag flyers are racist and insulting them isn’t going to win them back from the clutches of Nige. I’m seeing this more and more even on local FB pages. Some see Farage as the answer to a problem that the left will not accept, others storm on to declare that they’d rather have a village full of immigrants than a gammon, it’s a stalemate, there are no winners here.

About time adults of the UK started acting like adults.

WeAreExperiencingHigherNumberOfCallsThanUsual · 01/09/2025 20:51

I can't believe people still don't see why this blew up.
Stop being so "better". Just leave them to it so no one can anymore argue no one can use English flag. Stop calling people who have nothing to lose stupid names. Listen, talk and don't act like saint.
And same rant would go the other way, but I see more name calling from the "I am so nice" side. It's simply antagonising and makimg things worse.

If you want to counteract the flags, start using them like normal everywhere so it's just norm, not a weapon.
Defacing flags would just add oil to the fire and I am starting to think that's what lots of the "nice" side wants.

NewGoldFox · 01/09/2025 20:52

If you really would like to effect change maybe take in a refugee yourself?

Otherwise let’s not contribute to the council cleanup bill even if it is jolly good fun - haw haw haw.

Vitriolinsanity · 01/09/2025 20:52

LadyRoughDiamond · 01/09/2025 20:42

There are few things in life that aren’t vastly improved by a pair of googly eyes. Don’t deface the flags, just make them look vaguely ridiculous (and a lot friendlier).

I bloody love googly eyes. That’s the way all issues should be resolved.

Notashamed13 · 01/09/2025 20:52

Digidestined · 01/09/2025 20:50

😂

What's so funny?

Digidestined · 01/09/2025 20:53

Notashamed13 · 01/09/2025 20:52

What's so funny?

If you can't see that I can't help you.

HelenaWaiting · 01/09/2025 20:54

Namechange822 · 01/09/2025 20:05

I think that you could probably use a marker to add the line “Breaking news: Turkish born, Palestinian raised immigrant becomes English Saint” across the top of it.

There is no evidence whatsoever of any connection to Palestine. He was probably Cappadocian Greek, born in modern Turkiye. "Lydda, Palaestina" where he is believed to have died is actually Lod in central Israel. There is no evidence that he was "raised" there.

Here4the · 01/09/2025 20:54

BurlyShriggs · 01/09/2025 20:02

Why on earth is the England flag racist when I bet you wouldn’t say that about Scottish people waving their flags? If you have fallen for the narrative that it’s been appropriated by racists then the logical thing to do is to fly it yourself and show that it’s our national flag and not the property of racists.

I get the flag out regularly for sports. I don't spray paint it on roundabouts in areas because they have lots of immigrants. Do you see how there's a difference?

Notashamed13 · 01/09/2025 20:55

Digidestined · 01/09/2025 20:53

If you can't see that I can't help you.

Genuinely. Help me. 15 individuals already agree with me. Why is it OK to talk about defacing any flags?????? How disrespectful.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 01/09/2025 21:02

I'm picturing Nasty Fucking Farage sad faced on the front page of the Daily Flail, bemoaning a google eyed flag as an, 'Assault on patriotism'. And the googly eyes just gazing out at the Flail's readers accusingly, but the readers being too thick to understand what the eyes are trying to tell them.

Notashamed13 · 01/09/2025 21:02

Here4the · 01/09/2025 20:54

I get the flag out regularly for sports. I don't spray paint it on roundabouts in areas because they have lots of immigrants. Do you see how there's a difference?

The OP is not talking about the crosses that have appeared. They have specifically asked how you would deface the St Georges Cross - its not on. Edited - spelling.

Smilesinthesunshine · 01/09/2025 21:02

Notashamed13 · 01/09/2025 20:55

Genuinely. Help me. 15 individuals already agree with me. Why is it OK to talk about defacing any flags?????? How disrespectful.

It just comes down to immaturity and a lack of brain cells. All the snowflake, virtue signalling morons desperately want to accuse anyone that disagrees with them of being racist. It is just an easy, brainless retort.

Namechangechangeobv · 01/09/2025 21:04

I’m not interested in those who are going down the wide-eyed ‘it’s not racist, it’s just a flag’ route here but it’s interesting though how many people feel lighthearted mockery in the guise of some funny spraying over the (plastic spray painted hoarding ‘flag) could fuel support for Farage. It’s hard to know in these times what you can do which means taking a stand without fuelling this movement. Do we just sit back and say nothing? Is that better, or worse?

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Gingernessy · 01/09/2025 21:05

Namechangechangeobv · 01/09/2025 20:49

Yep that’s a good one too. But a little tongue in cheek humour as well feels like a good option. Love the Googly eyes idea. But like others have said, it’s not difficult to fan the fires that seem to be burning. Hard to know whether to actually do something about it or just let it die out.

My heart just drops a little every time I go past one.

I agree . Sadly this is not all about racists - it's also alot of scared people struggling to afford the basics in life whilst feeling that a government who promised change couldn't care less about them or their families. Migrant hotels are an easy target and until something occurs that gives people hope again I think it going to be very difficult to sort out