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To not want to host MIL for Christmas with a 12wk old baby & toddler

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Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 10:53

MIL is a widow (has been for nearly 30 years).
She has chosen not to move on and find a new partner and only had one child, my DH.
As a result we are expected to see her every Christmas. She lives four hours away so means she has to stay for a few days.

MIL is not a hands-on grandparent. She can't change nappies, doesn't help cook or tidy, and just about tolerates 2yr old DD although frequently ignores her when DD is trying to show her toys/engage with her.

MIL is extremely dependent emotionally on DH and despite living on her own isn't very independent. She won't get on the train to visit us so insists on getting a £700 (£350 each way) taxi door to door, which we think is outrageous.

She often expects to stay for a week at Christmas and since having DD we've managed to shorten this to just 24-27th.

Now if she was the kind of grandparent who would entertain the kids, or roll up her sleeves and empty the dishwasher, then we'd not hesitate.

However she's the kind of MIL who is lovely but won't even get her own drink or water, despite us saying to just help herself. It's effectively like having another child. She can get very stubborn and is very hard work sometimes.

Are we complete monsters for wanting to not have her here while DS is only 12wks old and we'll be in the absolute trenches?
It'll be hard enough with two young children.

She has close friends who used to regularly host Christmas, and DH and her would go to their house after her husband died, and I myself spent five Christmases there, so I'm certain she'd be welcome there.

OP posts:
Mrsttcno1 · 29/08/2025 11:35

Ratafia · 29/08/2025 11:34

So ignore it and leave her to cry. It's purely manipulative.

This.

My toddler cries when I tell her she can’t have a second ice lolly, it doesn’t mean I give in and get her one though.

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 11:35

renovationqueen · 29/08/2025 11:32

So she should be excluded from your family for choosing to stay single?
Your attitude to her is nasty.

That's a reach. Are you well?
She's hardly being excluded from our family if for one Christmas we don't host her for a week. I don't think many people would host family for a week with two small kids?!

OP posts:
Crazybigtoe · 29/08/2025 11:35

She gives you cash or a cheque and you are complaining????

Nanny0gg · 29/08/2025 11:35

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 11:33

She doesn't contribute to food or days out, we pay for her for everything. She comes empty handed to every birthday and Christmas.
She often gives money so yes that is a gift although we end up having to buy extra gifts for DD because at 2 she wants presents rather than money.
At DD's baby shower she was the only person who didn't bring a gift.

We aren't grabby people and would rather she spent £15 on an outfit from Tesco than give us money. Usually it's a cheque or cash which until recently meant we'd have to go into town in working hours to cash it is. Not the end of the world, but still a bit of a pain.

Oh dear god

You can pay cheques in through your banking app

It's a shame being given money is 'a bit of a pain'

But seriously

I'm very glad you are not my DiL.

Pregnancyquestion · 29/08/2025 11:35

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 11:15

She does take herself on expensive holidays and we love this for her. We are endlessly telling her to treat herself.
I think you've missed the post where I spoke at length about why taxis aren't good for her, but have only jumped on about the inheritance.

Because it’s absolutely ridiculous that you and your DH are judging what she spends money on because you view it as his inheritance because his dad was the breadwinner.

You support holidays and encourage her to treat herself - bully for you lol! Because again you’re deciding that’s ok, when it’s none of your business either way,

If I caught a sniff of an attitude from any one I knew that I was being judged on what I spent money on because they think theyre entitled to MY money when I’m gone, I’d literally leave it to a cat charity

goldtrap · 29/08/2025 11:36

Usually it's a cheque or cash which until recently meant we'd have to go into town in working hours to cash it is. Not the end of the world, but still a bit of a pain.

ha ha, keep going. 👏

EchoedSilence · 29/08/2025 11:36

I think someone is on a wind up here.

Iocainepowder · 29/08/2025 11:37

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 11:33

She doesn't contribute to food or days out, we pay for her for everything. She comes empty handed to every birthday and Christmas.
She often gives money so yes that is a gift although we end up having to buy extra gifts for DD because at 2 she wants presents rather than money.
At DD's baby shower she was the only person who didn't bring a gift.

We aren't grabby people and would rather she spent £15 on an outfit from Tesco than give us money. Usually it's a cheque or cash which until recently meant we'd have to go into town in working hours to cash it is. Not the end of the world, but still a bit of a pain.

Ok sorry op you’re starting to lose me here too now.

At 2 years old, your DD has no concept of presents or what a birthday is. You don’t ‘have to’ buy her more presents. It is absolutely perfectly acceptable to give money as a gift and not a physical present.

I’m with you about not hosting for xmas, but you do need to reflect on your attitude re money and gifts.

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 11:37

Pregnancyquestion · 29/08/2025 11:28

lol you’re going to get blasted for that, even I (who generally thinks mumsnet is too harsh on anyone who tries to discuss inheritance) know that’s not his inheritance is her money lol

Edited

For some reason people are zooming in on that rather than all the other reasons I've given re taxi.

OP posts:
Indianajet · 29/08/2025 11:37

Thank goodness my sons/daughters in law aren't like you!
She chose not to move on - who are you to say she should have remarried!
My sons tell me to spend my money on choc/gin/holidays and yes, taxis!
I am a widow and they would never leave me alone at Christmas.

As for being 'in the trenches' - when did this become an expression for the very normal life with two small children? It is a ridiculous way to describe it and an insult to people who actually were in the trenches.

Nanny0gg · 29/08/2025 11:37

AugustSlippedAwayIntoAMomentInTime · 29/08/2025 11:32

Let her

You've been too accommodating for far too long.

I think you need to spell it out to her. In writing if you can't say it or you want to give her time to absorb it. Along the lines of ' You act like you're a demanding 3 year old when you visit. You do nothing for yourself, you expect to be waited on hand and foot, won't even get yourself a cup of water and would rather cough expectantly for hours to make someone do it for you. We're done. If you really won't acknowledge how obnoxious your behaviour is and make some serious changes, then you won't be welcome to stay with us going forward. We already have a toddler/baby, you pulled this crap when Wisher was heavily pregnant, etc No more.'

And with any luck that will completely stuff 'their' inheritance

99bottlesofkombucha · 29/08/2025 11:37

EchoedSilence · 29/08/2025 11:02

It's up to her what she spends her money on. Does your DH keep a tally of how much of his inheritance is being spent?

I think you are being unreasonable. It's a few days she wants to spend with her only son.

It’s Christmas not some random days. The op has parents too. She didn’t get married thinking it meant she’d never have Christmas with her parents again.

LessOfThis · 29/08/2025 11:37

“We aren't grabby people“

oh dear op, yes you are!

Iocainepowder · 29/08/2025 11:38

goldtrap · 29/08/2025 11:36

Usually it's a cheque or cash which until recently meant we'd have to go into town in working hours to cash it is. Not the end of the world, but still a bit of a pain.

ha ha, keep going. 👏

Jesus lol

MiddleAgeRageMonster · 29/08/2025 11:38

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 10:59

If we don't get her drinks she will sit there all day without water and then cough continuously because she has a dry throat.

She pays for the taxis, although it's a sensitive issue as while her own money, hasn't worked since DH was born and so technically is spending all of his inheritance. As a result we don't see her often as we think it's a waste of money.

I don't think she'll be up for alternating, think she'll get very offended. But surely just one Christmas organising herself isn't end of the world?
I can see us being easily guilted into it, regretting it and I'll probably lose my rag with with her if she's just sitting not doing anything.
She visited for the bank holiday weekend while I'm 37wks pregnant and watched me rush around cooking her dinners and doing everything for her, and it's given me a taste of what it'll be like.

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Water issue solved, keep it next to where MIL sits and top it up as necessary when you are up anyway doing something else.
Buy a nice sandwich from M&S to keep in the fridge for when she drops it on you that she 'wants something small'.
Let her pay for the taxi, it isn't DH's inheritance until she makes her exit.
Remember, holding out for an inheritance is entirely pointless these days as everything she has could be taken up in care home fees...unless you plan to look after her full time until she dies?

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noidea69 · 29/08/2025 11:38

She pays for the taxis, although it's a sensitive issue as while her own money, hasn't worked since DH was born and so technically is spending all of his inheritance. As a result we don't see her often as we think it's a waste of money.

No offense, but this comment about the inheritance, makes you sound like a bit of twat.

Wallywobbles · 29/08/2025 11:38

I’d let this happen but I’d be putting in some new rules about her being more useful.

renovationqueen · 29/08/2025 11:38

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 11:35

That's a reach. Are you well?
She's hardly being excluded from our family if for one Christmas we don't host her for a week. I don't think many people would host family for a week with two small kids?!

Actually I think a lot of people would host a single widowed parent for a week over Christmas - obviously not you though.

nosleepforme · 29/08/2025 11:38

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 10:59

If we don't get her drinks she will sit there all day without water and then cough continuously because she has a dry throat.

She pays for the taxis, although it's a sensitive issue as while her own money, hasn't worked since DH was born and so technically is spending all of his inheritance. As a result we don't see her often as we think it's a waste of money.

I don't think she'll be up for alternating, think she'll get very offended. But surely just one Christmas organising herself isn't end of the world?
I can see us being easily guilted into it, regretting it and I'll probably lose my rag with with her if she's just sitting not doing anything.
She visited for the bank holiday weekend while I'm 37wks pregnant and watched me rush around cooking her dinners and doing everything for her, and it's given me a taste of what it'll be like.

You lost me here!!
she’s spending his inheritance?!!!? Just wow. It’s hers. She can do what she wants with it. Just wow

Mucholderlittlewiser · 29/08/2025 11:39

She pays for the taxis, although it's a sensitive issue as while her own money, hasn't worked since DH was born and so technically is spending all of his inheritance.

No, she is actually spending her own money. Jesus wept.

Mencia · 29/08/2025 11:39

Iocainepowder · 29/08/2025 11:37

Ok sorry op you’re starting to lose me here too now.

At 2 years old, your DD has no concept of presents or what a birthday is. You don’t ‘have to’ buy her more presents. It is absolutely perfectly acceptable to give money as a gift and not a physical present.

I’m with you about not hosting for xmas, but you do need to reflect on your attitude re money and gifts.

Her attitude in general, not just money and gifts.

Comedycook · 29/08/2025 11:40

Honestly I'd be mightily pissed off at someone spending the better part of a grand to visit me whilst contributing nothing towards the festivities and making me wait on them hand and foot...if I had a baby and a toddler I'd be even more pissed off.

My own mil is very similar although she expects DH to drive her. The fact is the op gets absolutely nothing out of these visits. She doesn't sound like great company. She's not an involved grandma. She doesn't bring anything. She expects a lot. Sod that.

Octonaut4Life · 29/08/2025 11:40

OP you've said some things on here that have come across as rather objectionable, particularly re: the inheritance and your MIL staying single etc. However the core of the issue is something you're not being unreasonable on at all. Equally I notice your DH isn't very present in your descriptions of you running around cooking for MIL etc. at 37 weeks pregnant. What does he do? How much does he help? And how much scope is there to do things differently to reduce the burden (e.g. "MIL you're welcome for Christmas but we will be having a Chinese takeaway this year"?)

LittleBitofBread · 29/08/2025 11:40

She sounds like a nightmare. If an adult cried if I suggested they make their own sandwich when they didn't want what I'd cooked they'd not be coming to my house again.
But, as ever, this is actually your DH's problem.

99bottlesofkombucha · 29/08/2025 11:40

Wisher88 · 29/08/2025 11:16

She would cry if I said this unfortunately.

I can’t imagine what my face would say if my mil cried because I said make yourself a cup of tea. I expect it would communicate itself quite clearly, and my blood pressure would hit the roof. I’d 100% cancel Christmas plans and treasure every day of it.

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