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Friend wrecks dds room.

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Chickencuddle · 26/08/2025 16:41

Dd is 12 and has a friend who whenever she comes over wrecks her room in different ways.
Dd had her room painted and redone last year. This friend every time she comes over picks the paint off the walls. So everytime this girl leaves I go in and see big scrabs in paint etc. I've always just painted over and hoped it wouldn't happen again but this time I told myself it was the last time. And she did it again. She also sticks her chewing gum on dds furniture (there is a bin in the room)
Wish pop her squishes and break her toys and its an "accident" has also taken things before. No way to prove it but things go missing agter she has been abd she has shown an interest on these things previously.
Aibu to message the mummy about talking to her dd? I have spoken to her but only lightly and she kind of laughed it off and said "opps" then it happens again.

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JustLookingThanks · 26/08/2025 21:03

Chickencuddle · 26/08/2025 16:44

She's dds best friend and really the only person she hangs out with

She needs a new friend, this friend sounds jealous of DD room, and a bit of a frenemy. I would speak to the mum, and explain what's happened. Also remind the friend that she must abide by the rules of the house which are use the bin and don't pick at the walls. This friend is controlling, she's seeing if she can get away with it,and testing the friendship and you. You need to gently make some boundaries or it will get worse.
I'd give it another go at helping your DD expand her number of friends. It's going to be hard for her but worth it.
I'd prefer that the friend didn't come into the house again but I realise this will be really hard for your daughter.
Kids can be awful but unless your daughter learns to stand up for herself she will suffer more in the future.

ilovesushi · 26/08/2025 21:04

Chickencuddle · 26/08/2025 18:49

Well ive tried but she lost confidence and now won't go back to any clubs.

I had this with my DD. I dropped some ideas and gave her time to ponder them. When she was ready to switch from the club she had been at for years to a new club to escape the bully, she let me know. I rang the new place and the woman running it was brilliant. I explained that DD's confidence was shot to pieces after being bullied and they could not have been more empathetic or more welcoming but in a way that was low key and not overwhelming. We got lucky, but please be proactive for your DD. I kick myself that I didn't see it sooner and act sooner.

Lucy2586 · 26/08/2025 21:10

Weemammy21 · 26/08/2025 20:44

@ComfortFoodCafe @Lucy2586 Hsve either of you anything to say about my user name of Weemammy21? Take a guess where i am from and kindly refrain from any offensive comments about people from different areas.

Sorry I do apologise, i did not notice that I didn’t mean to offend you. I understand mammy is very common in Ireland.

My DD only had one girlfriend and she was rather mean to her but she adored her. I wish I’d put a stop to the friendship sooner because it lead to school refusal. The girl was rather spiteful so maybe bite the bullet this girl doesn’t sound good at all for her.

Chickencuddle · 26/08/2025 21:13

Lucy2586 · 26/08/2025 21:10

Sorry I do apologise, i did not notice that I didn’t mean to offend you. I understand mammy is very common in Ireland.

My DD only had one girlfriend and she was rather mean to her but she adored her. I wish I’d put a stop to the friendship sooner because it lead to school refusal. The girl was rather spiteful so maybe bite the bullet this girl doesn’t sound good at all for her.

Edited

As is mummy and I believe your comment was aimed at me and me using mummy Which is just as common as mammy

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LurkThenPost · 26/08/2025 21:15

Chickencuddle · 26/08/2025 21:13

As is mummy and I believe your comment was aimed at me and me using mummy Which is just as common as mammy

I only wish you were this forceful with your DD! Take control of the situation.

Lucy2586 · 26/08/2025 21:16

Chickencuddle · 26/08/2025 21:13

As is mummy and I believe your comment was aimed at me and me using mummy Which is just as common as mammy

i apologise again. I am from the north east of England where mammy is very common. My DD used to call me Mammy. I don’t know a great deal about Ireland so forgive me. I have my dd and Irish name that you may be familiar with. Nuala bevause he dads side are from Ireland.

Chickencuddle · 26/08/2025 21:17

Slightly different with a child i never know how much to say to someone else's child. I do stick up for dd and have spoken multiple times to this girl as I have previously said. 🙃

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Moo31 · 26/08/2025 21:18

Sorry you're getting stick over the use of mummy. I'm in my 40s and in NI and can confirm myself and my friends still has the term!

Lucy2586 · 26/08/2025 21:18

Chickencuddle · 26/08/2025 21:17

Slightly different with a child i never know how much to say to someone else's child. I do stick up for dd and have spoken multiple times to this girl as I have previously said. 🙃

Just be firm you’ve definitely got a bit of fire in you😊joke by the way

LurkThenPost · 26/08/2025 21:19

Chickencuddle · 26/08/2025 21:17

Slightly different with a child i never know how much to say to someone else's child. I do stick up for dd and have spoken multiple times to this girl as I have previously said. 🙃

Quite snappy on here compared to real life. Who said anything about the other girl? I was telling you to teach your DD to stand up for herself, join other hobbies and potentially change schools. Why have you allowed her in your house after she destroys your DD things and stolen? If that were me, I wouldn't have let her back in no matter how much my own DD moaned.

Girliefriendlikespuppies · 26/08/2025 21:22

Do you not tell her off? I would be furious with her.

I wouldn’t have her over again, and yes bill her mum for the damage.

Lucy2586 · 26/08/2025 21:23

Moo31 · 26/08/2025 21:18

Sorry you're getting stick over the use of mummy. I'm in my 40s and in NI and can confirm myself and my friends still has the term!

No I apologised, I know it’s the norm in Ireland.

Chickencuddle · 26/08/2025 21:24

LurkThenPost · 26/08/2025 21:19

Quite snappy on here compared to real life. Who said anything about the other girl? I was telling you to teach your DD to stand up for herself, join other hobbies and potentially change schools. Why have you allowed her in your house after she destroys your DD things and stolen? If that were me, I wouldn't have let her back in no matter how much my own DD moaned.

I don't think I'm snappy I'm just having a conversation. Maybe its the way you read it. Just putting my point of view across as are you. Sometimes we misread things as maybe I have.
I have enrolled her in things she refuses to go without said friend now. Previously she went without her but friend found out and wanted to go. Dd is anxious about doing anything without a friend and seeing as this is her only friend that makes it hard. I've tried in vain to get her to do things without her but can't force her.

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Jamesblonde2 · 26/08/2025 21:27

Don’t allow her into her room again. She’s not a friend, she’s jealous. I’d be discouraging it tbh.

LurkThenPost · 26/08/2025 21:28

Chickencuddle · 26/08/2025 21:24

I don't think I'm snappy I'm just having a conversation. Maybe its the way you read it. Just putting my point of view across as are you. Sometimes we misread things as maybe I have.
I have enrolled her in things she refuses to go without said friend now. Previously she went without her but friend found out and wanted to go. Dd is anxious about doing anything without a friend and seeing as this is her only friend that makes it hard. I've tried in vain to get her to do things without her but can't force her.

No I’m saying it’s good to be snappy, you just need to enforce that into real life. You need to stand up to people. You need to teach your daughter it’s okay that she does things without her. What will you do about college courses or sixth form or whatever, does she have to do everything that this girl does and with her? It’s better to have no friends, than have fake friends.

Lucy2586 · 26/08/2025 21:29

Chickencuddle · 26/08/2025 21:24

I don't think I'm snappy I'm just having a conversation. Maybe its the way you read it. Just putting my point of view across as are you. Sometimes we misread things as maybe I have.
I have enrolled her in things she refuses to go without said friend now. Previously she went without her but friend found out and wanted to go. Dd is anxious about doing anything without a friend and seeing as this is her only friend that makes it hard. I've tried in vain to get her to do things without her but can't force her.

I totally understand I had the same with DD until last year. I fall out wasn’t great but I’d rather it happen sooner than later. No kid needs a frenemy. She’ll probably get worse as she gets older this other child.

ThinWomansBrain · 26/08/2025 21:30

YABU - message vandals mummy and tell he that her little darling is no longer welcome because of her consistently vile destructive behaviour

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 26/08/2025 21:30

Chickencuddle · 26/08/2025 19:29

Have actually spoken about changing schools but dd very strongly doesn't want to. Mum messaged back and said she was so sorry and she would speak to her dd.

Sometimes, OP, you have to be the parent.

She needs to get away from this horrible girl, even if she doesn't think she wants to.

BookArt55 · 26/08/2025 21:33

There's lots of books for teens and tweens about confidence, standing your ground, seeing abusive relationships, I would invest. If you have the money I would also consider some counselling to build her confidence and ability to see these unhealthy relationships. I'd take her places, keep opening her up to new experiences and offer to do it more if she enjoys it. I would also demonstrate in front of her at every possible opportunity how to strike up a conversation wjth a coffee shop in a queue, or how to tell her calmly but firmly that her behaviour is too acceptable so she almost has a script to use in her own life and sees how to do these things.
I'd also carve out time every week, say a Saturday, where phones go away and you do things together without this friend. She needs to spend time away from the friend, otherwise she spends all week at school and then having her round the house. I'd also see about inviting one of the other girls from the friendship group round, or to go out and do something and explain to your daughter it is okay!
Boundaries- I think you need to put some in place, and your daughter needs ro be taught about them too. Or, and i means this kindly, your daughter may end up in unhealthy romantic relationships in the future as she simply doesn't understand healthy boundaries and relationships- her whole life has been this overbearing girl and it is obviously taking it's toll on her.

Naanspiration · 26/08/2025 21:42

"This friend every time she comes over picks the paint off the walls."

Don't let this beast through your front door ever again.

Weemammy21 · 26/08/2025 21:58

@Lucy2586 Apology accepted.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 26/08/2025 22:00

OP, if I were you I would sit your DD down and say this.

"She deliberately defaces your room so that your lovely personal space isn't lovely any more. When told not to do it she laughs like it's all some big joke. She damages and steals your things. She's the only person you have to hang out with because she won't let you be friends with other people. I've tried to get you to do different activities without her so you can make some new friends, she's weaseled her way in and spoiled your enjoyment of them, and destroyed your confidence to the point where you admit that she ruins things for you but you also don't want to do anything without her. This isn't healthy. It's not how friends behave. I don't want to take away the only friend you feel you have, but she is not a real friend. She is someone who brings you down, when real friends build you up. I don't want you to hang out with her all the time. I want you to make some other friends. Now if her behaviour was less extreme, I'd say just branch out a bit, make some other friends, she can still come round now and again as long as she's not the only person in your life. But frankly I don't want her in my house anymore because she doesn't respect our property, and I don't really want you to be with her all the time at school anymore because she's actively trying to stop you from making other friends. Ideally I think the best option for you would be to move to a new school and leave her behind completely. You'd have an opportunity to make new friends with nice girls who don't engage in this horrible toxic behaviour, as well as new activities outside of school which she wouldn't always find out about and try to ruin. Alternatively I could speak to the teachers about you moving to a different form, but I'm worried that won't get you far enough away from her to give you the fresh start you need."

MirrorMirror70 · 26/08/2025 22:01

OP, I was your daughter all through primary and until around year 9/10 (age 14-15). My “best friend” was controlling, constantly talked down to me, insulted all of my interests, made constant jibes about my looks and intelligence, and slowly eroded my confidence over the years. She would get involved in any other friendships I had, triangulate, and ruin them. Every single club or activity I did outside school, she’d join and ruin for me.

When we started secondary school, she was initially placed into a different form to me and I was actually really happy and confident for those first few weeks, making new friends and feeling popular for the first time ever. Then she had an epic tantrum, and her mum demanded she was moved into the same form as me, despite there being a group of lovely girls in her form who had been really kind and tried to befriend her. School was never the same after that, she meddled in the burgeoning friendships I’d made, turned them against me and befriended one of my newest friends and used this friendship to treat me badly. I’m not sure exactly what happened, perhaps it was just a natural maturing but at around age 15 I made a new best friend who saw right through and hated my BF and so couldn’t be “stolen”, and she finally lost her power over me. I just no longer cared what she thought.

Reading your posts, I feel really sad for your daughter as I know exactly what she is going through and she’s probably not quite mature enough yet to remove herself from this friendship on her own. I never confided in anyone how the friendship affected me, and I’m not sure my mum even knew. But you know, and you can do things to help her.

Is she in the same form as this girl, if so, can you request that she be moved? Are there any other nice kids she could become friends with away from the influence of BFF?

Do you have any friends with children of a similar age, who go to different schools, that you could potentially meet up with?

How does BFF find out about these clubs your DD signs up for, does your DD tell her? If so, I’m not sure how you can stop her from doing this, you could try and have a chat to her about keeping any new hobbies to herself if she is amenable. But maybe try and find a club that she is interested in and speak to the leader and explain the history of this toxic friendship, that BFF has a habit of following DD to new clubs in order to ruin it for her, and you want her to have an opportunity to explore interests and grow confidence away from her. I have no idea if it’s even a thing a club can do, but you could ask if they can effectively “ban” BFF from joining, citing numbers/lack of space.

Unfortunately your DD won’t move on from this friendship until she realises that she can have other healthy, happy friendships away from BFF. Hopefully this will happen sooner rather than later, but my toxic friendship has affected me for my entire life. Even now in my 40s, I battle with feeling of inadequacy in friendships and believe deep down that people don’t actually like me.

EsmeSusanOgg · 26/08/2025 22:02

Chickencuddle · 26/08/2025 16:44

She's dds best friend and really the only person she hangs out with

She is not your dd's friend. Friends do not behave this way.

Happyelephants · 26/08/2025 22:27

Chickencuddle · 26/08/2025 21:24

I don't think I'm snappy I'm just having a conversation. Maybe its the way you read it. Just putting my point of view across as are you. Sometimes we misread things as maybe I have.
I have enrolled her in things she refuses to go without said friend now. Previously she went without her but friend found out and wanted to go. Dd is anxious about doing anything without a friend and seeing as this is her only friend that makes it hard. I've tried in vain to get her to do things without her but can't force her.

I think you need to try harder with your DD to get her involved in clubs - encourage, cajole, bribe, we all have to get our kids to do things they don't want to.

And if you don't want her 'friend' to go with her, tell the friends mum you want your DD to be a bit more independent.

Your DD would be better off with no friends that this girl, and you need to try to resolve this, as she can't.

PPs have suggested moving school, or at least moving class in her current school - I think you need to consider these options, and you definately need to let the school know there's a problem.

Contacting the other mum about messing up your daughter's room is a start, but you need to do a lot more.

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