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To have organised a 40th birthday party for me and my twin?

742 replies

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 20:31

I've just had an argument with my lifelong friend about this.

I have a twin brother. We turned 40 a couple of weeks ago. I wanted a big party as it's a big milestone. I don't think that's unusual. I told my brother a few months ago that I wanted the party. He said that he didn't want a big fuss and wouldn't come.

I went ahead and organised one. His wife knew and said he'd come. The party came and he didn't show up. I'd assumed he would despite what he'd said. I was really embarrassed in front of all our extended family and friends and upset that he'd let me down. I really thought he'd come. He'd said he hadn't wanted a 21st either but I did, so my mum organised a big party for us. He was a bit grumpy about it, but he did come and enjoyed himself in the end.

I'd told my friend how upset I was about it but she didn't say very much. She can be like that though, she's a bit unfeeling. I saw her on Friday and we ended up having a disagreement about something else that escalated and the subject of the party came up. She said that I was in the wrong for throwing a party for me and my brother. She said if I wanted a party I should've thrown one for myself and not told everyone it was for both of us. She said it was an example of me "always, always having to have things your own fucking way" and that I was selfish.

I'm really upset. I don't think it's selfish of me to want to have a party and I don't see why I shouldn't have one just because my brother doesn't want one. I can't have one just for myself, everyone knows we're twins and it would look weird for me to have a birthday party without him. My friend was really rude today and needs to watch her temper. I'm a really kind person and I think it's not too much to ask for others to put themselves out for me sometimes, but I've been thinking about what my friend said and now I'm worried other people think I was selfish about the party.

OP posts:
BettysRoasties · 25/08/2025 22:28

Angelica from the rugrats if she had a twin.

SuperTrooper1111 · 25/08/2025 22:28

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:20

Actually I invited quite a lot of his friends too. That's why I was so embarrassed, they were there for him, not me and he didn't bother to show up. I went to a lot of effort for the party

Your poor brother will be feeling far more mortified than you. You have shamed him in front of his friends by making it look like he was the crap twin for not turning up to the party. Did you explain to them that he'd said all along he wouldn't go? I would be so angry with you if I were him.

Londonismyjam · 25/08/2025 22:29

The OP isn’t listening. And going by her posts I don’t think she ever will.

ForZanyAquaViewer · 25/08/2025 22:29

VoltaireMittyDream · 25/08/2025 21:09

This must be a reverse. Nobody can be this obtuse.

Yup. Either that or someone messing about.

BettysRoasties · 25/08/2025 22:30

Londonismyjam · 25/08/2025 22:29

The OP isn’t listening. And going by her posts I don’t think she ever will.

We can all set alarms for their 50th 60th to read the thread identical again I reckon.

HeddaGarbled · 25/08/2025 22:31

he didn't bother to show up

That’s not what happened.

He made an active decision not to attend, just as he told you he would.

I would imagine he was very very bothered.

Sunshineismyfavourite · 25/08/2025 22:31

I can totally see that you wanted to give your brother a lovely birthday. But your idea of a lovely birthday is completely different to his. I think it's really sad that you can't see that?
I think your planning the party was well meant OP but very much misguided. You are being unreasonable I'm afraid.

AlexisP90 · 25/08/2025 22:31

charlieandthechocolatfactory · 25/08/2025 20:34

But it is his birthday too, and he said he didn’t want a fuss
so kindly, I’m not sure how he let you down when it’s also his birthday

Yeah this.

I fucking hate surprise parties or being the centre of attention. If I had a twin and they did this I wouldn't come either.

Totally get you wanted to have a party but you should have respected your brothers wishes and just thrown it for yourself.

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:32

Hobnobswantshernameback · 25/08/2025 21:44

Yet another goady one post and run OP

Wtf? I'd only posted just over an hour before you wrote that. I was busy with something else for a bit. It's not like I left it for days

OP posts:
loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:33

Silverbirchleaf · 25/08/2025 21:49

I don’t think you were being selfish, and you meant well. It was a milestone birthday, and so you wanted to share it with your brother. I think it’s slightly rude of them not to let you know they weren’t coming, especially after they (wife) accepted the invitation.

Thank you!

OP posts:
Londonismyjam · 25/08/2025 22:34

But you’re not responding to us are you OP - where is your self awareness? With kindness and respect, are you neurodiverse?

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:34

Ddakji · 25/08/2025 21:51

Is this the same friend, OP? You were told you were unreasonable then and that was 3 years ago.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4569390-to-be-devastated-by-my-friends-attitude

No, it's a different friend. I don't think that situation is at all relevant to this one so I'm not sure why you're dragging it up

OP posts:
SuperTrooper1111 · 25/08/2025 22:35

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:33

Thank you!

If you think that one person agreeing with you vindicates your decision to ride roughshod over your twin's wishes then all you're doing is proving that your friend is right about you!

Arlanymor · 25/08/2025 22:35

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:34

No, it's a different friend. I don't think that situation is at all relevant to this one so I'm not sure why you're dragging it up

Edited

So two friends have felt the need to point out that you're self-centred? And that doesn't ring any bells with you? You just think that they are both hurtful and mean? You've not done anything to deserve either of their approbation in your mind? Really?

BettysRoasties · 25/08/2025 22:35

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:34

No, it's a different friend. I don't think that situation is at all relevant to this one so I'm not sure why you're dragging it up

Edited

So two friends both think you make things all about you.

Maybe just maybe. Reflect.

Lostworlds · 25/08/2025 22:36

I understand you wanted to have a party and why not, go and enjoy your birthday! However, your twin didn’t want a party so you should have left him out if it.

In hindsight, you could have checked in with him again before finalising a guest list and double check who he wanted to invite/ see if he would turn up and then let people know about the party. I know you wanted to do something kind but you don’t need your twin there to have a party, next time enjoy yourself and invite him as a guest! Some people don’t want to be the centre of attention, even if it is a special birthday and that’s alright

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 25/08/2025 22:36

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:18

I think you're all being a bit harsh on me. I didn't expect everyone to agree but hardly anyone is seeing this from my point of view. I wanted my brother to have a nice birthday. He can be a bit unsociable at times so needs to be encouraged to come to events and stuff but he always enjoys himself once he's there. I thought it'd be like his 21st where he ended up enjoying it.

Even if I did the wrong thing I don't think I was selfish and I think my friend was really horrible about it.

The problem isn’t that you wanted him to have a nice birthday, @loonyloo - it’s the fact that you completely ignored him when he told you what he wanted for his birthday - ie no party! It isn’t kind or loving to try to force someone into a social occasion they don’t want.

Basically you decided he was wrong about how he wanted to celebrate his 40th, so organised the joint party he didn’t want, and then got miffed when he didn’t come to the party he didn’t want.

It may come as news to you, but different people like different things. You wanted a party, he didn’t. Neither of you were wrong, but only one of you decided to try to impose your way on the other person.

BettysRoasties · 25/08/2025 22:38

If my brother throws me a 40th birthday he will
have the same outcome.

Some people just don’t want parties. I’ve not had one since I was a teen and dh knows better as well.

WaitWhatWhatWait · 25/08/2025 22:39

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:18

I think you're all being a bit harsh on me. I didn't expect everyone to agree but hardly anyone is seeing this from my point of view. I wanted my brother to have a nice birthday. He can be a bit unsociable at times so needs to be encouraged to come to events and stuff but he always enjoys himself once he's there. I thought it'd be like his 21st where he ended up enjoying it.

Even if I did the wrong thing I don't think I was selfish and I think my friend was really horrible about it.

... I wanted my brother to have a nice birthday...
But only by your definition, not what he WANTED to do, so it wasn't a nice birthday for him.
That's what you're refusing to get.

NoThanksNeeded · 25/08/2025 22:40

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:34

No, it's a different friend. I don't think that situation is at all relevant to this one so I'm not sure why you're dragging it up

Edited

So you have a lot of friends calling you out for your behaviour but they're ALL in the wrong?

steff13 · 25/08/2025 22:42

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:18

I think you're all being a bit harsh on me. I didn't expect everyone to agree but hardly anyone is seeing this from my point of view. I wanted my brother to have a nice birthday. He can be a bit unsociable at times so needs to be encouraged to come to events and stuff but he always enjoys himself once he's there. I thought it'd be like his 21st where he ended up enjoying it.

Even if I did the wrong thing I don't think I was selfish and I think my friend was really horrible about it.

If most people are not seeing it from your point of view, perhaps some introspection is in order?

He told you he didn't want a party. You decided that he, a man well into adulthood, didn't really know what he wanted and you knew better. Now you're butthurt because he didn't show up to the party he didn't want, just as he told you he wouldn't. Can you really not see that you're completely unreasonable?

BuckChuckets · 25/08/2025 22:42

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:34

No, it's a different friend. I don't think that situation is at all relevant to this one so I'm not sure why you're dragging it up

Edited

No, of course, everyone else is the problem, not you...

PlacidPenelope · 25/08/2025 22:45

loonyloo · 25/08/2025 22:18

I think you're all being a bit harsh on me. I didn't expect everyone to agree but hardly anyone is seeing this from my point of view. I wanted my brother to have a nice birthday. He can be a bit unsociable at times so needs to be encouraged to come to events and stuff but he always enjoys himself once he's there. I thought it'd be like his 21st where he ended up enjoying it.

Even if I did the wrong thing I don't think I was selfish and I think my friend was really horrible about it.

People are not being harsh ypu just don't like hearing what they are saying.

Your brother did not want what you wanted, he is entitled to make that choice and have you respect that choice. He doesn't need you to encourage him to come to stuff.

I thought it'd be like his 21st where he ended up enjoying it. You thought wrong didn't you? Or did you actually give any thought to him and what he wanted at all?

There is nothing stopping you having as many and as big birthday parties as you want, your brother is not stopping you is he?

Celebrate your birthday how you want and leave him to celebrate, or not, his how he wants. The fact you are twins is irrelevant he is still his own person with his own like and dislikes, his own opinions and his own decisions.

Your friend has made a very valid point, you should listen to her.

TheBeesTrees · 25/08/2025 22:45

But @loonyloo some people do not like parties, or the social side of them can be enjoyable at the time but can tire you out so much that it takes ages to feel normal again after. Stop trying to make him like you, he is his own person with his own likes and dislikes.

Livpool · 25/08/2025 22:45

YABU

He told you he wouldn’t be attending and he didn’t. You embarrassed him - making out he was all for it then making him look bad.

You should have just thrown your own party