For thinking that the migrant protests ...

[Ihateboris]

Should be held at the council offices, Government departments, rather than the migrant hotels? After all, it's due to the government's lack of processing that the migrants are there?

I mean, we could just stop talking about it altogether to avoid any awkwardness. But then we should probably also stop talking about male violence in general if our main priority is to avoid making certain groups/demographics look bad.

Oh? Go on tell me how you know a group of protestors is concerned about women and girls’ safety?

Discussing the issues you describe doesn't mean that making sweeping, hateful generalisations is OK. It isn't.

This is it. If we could talk about these issues in a grown up way. Acknowledge the truth and really listen to people's concerns and lived experiences then people such as Tommy Robinson would become irrelevant. When there is such dismissal by our political leaders and even worse than that denial and head in the sand mentality what other option is there. Not one person on this thread who has been so vocal regarding the terrible treatment of the asylum seekers has commented on the information you have posted. It's the same gas lighting of trying to shame people into ignoring the truth and dismissing what we see and hear with our own eyes and ears.

Yes. As evidenced right here on this thread.

I've never heard of ahisi -Ali. Do you mean this person?

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ayaan-Hirsi-Ali

Gave a speech at the right leaning heritage association behind project 2025.

https://www.heritage.org/global-politics/event/the-2024-russell-kirk-lecture-featuring-ayaan-hirsi-ali

If so, I can understand why some of the posters on here think she is someone to quote.

Profect 2025 is linked with MAGA, Trump and fa right ideology.

But nothing to see here though.

@LlttledrummergirI

Double down double down! Do not I repeat do not under any circumstances admit you’re wrong.

I'll assume from your response that this is the person you have been quoting.

I think you are projecting.

What?

In reality, there are shitholes in ireland & the UK due to migration areas that you would not be safe to walk around. I have known of forced marriage and seen the consequences and that is just so horrible. Young girls have and are still being treated as a commodity in some communities.

I am not as eloquent as some of you and that is always pointed out, & some of the people on MN live in a totally different world to some of the communities that I have lived and also worked in.......hence some of the comments throughout this thread.

We see men arriving in the country each day & we know nothing about these people BUT we know that it costing the UK an unfathomable amount of money - we have our own housing crisis & people are being told that they should not protest ! I feel that government know exactly what is happening but while the people are being kept busy protesting , something more sinister is happening behind the scenes .

We have the right to say we are now more than uncomfortable with illegals coming to the UK and the feelings of the protesters are important and should not be belittled by those living in a bubble.

What a truly remarkable and brave woman she is. Driven to improve the lives of Muslim women.

What is it about her that offends you so deeply? I would encourage everyone to read her life story.

I feel that government know exactly what is happening but while the people are being kept busy protesting , something more sinister is happening behind the scenes

What do you think the something sinister is?

^Yes, this. Two things can be true at the same time. There clearly is an issue regarding migrants and sexual violence against women and girls. It isn’t racist to express concern about it.

However, the likes of Tommy Robinson don’t care about this. They’re just using the issue to incite racial hatred. If they did genuinely care, they would have spoken up years ago about the shockingly low conviction rate for rape and sexual assault. But they don’t care when it’s white men who are guilty.

Which points out of the many quotes I posted from her do you disagree with?

I'm only familiar with her articles and her book Prey, which focus on the Islamic/immigration issue and tbh I agree with a lot of it.

Are you suggesting that you'd completely disregard somebody's opinion on a specific issue just because they have different political leanings in other areas? If so, that's not really my approach. It's a bit like disregarding the views of people that don't share your religious beliefs.

Where have I said she offends me deeply? That has come from your imagination.

Until she was mentioned on here, I had never heard of her. So I had a quick Google and asked if that was the person that you were talking about.
As it turns out, I appear to be right.

I think your imagination is creating things that don't exist, and you are projecting.

And quite possibly the right leaning folk are the only ones prepared to hear her out. I mean, nothing will get you shut down by the woke quicker than discussing the bad side of Islam!

It just baffles me how modern feminists can get so riled up about microaggressions, mansplaining, manspreading, free tickets to the football for depressed men (yes, really!) but then 1200 women get sexually assaulted in one night in a moderate western county and... nope...can't say anything about that because they're not straight white males.

40 young girls sexually assaulted at one music event? Mostly under 15 years of age. Nope, we'll let that one slide too along with the many other cases.

The mind boggles!

We talk about frothing gammons and Stella drinkers but the suffragettes were throwing themselves under horses and attempting to detonate bombs in theatres and churches for less grievous treatment than what the above women have experienced!

And onlooking and stealing at the first opportunity (see what happened after the Southport murders). If you look at the organisers of these “protests” and check their connections, there’s enough of them on a register. Don’t see them protesting against the police when there’s weekly stories of abuse of power against women.

Your post more or less dismissed her as being irrelevant. This is a Muslim woman who endured fgm, an attempted forced marriage and had to flee and change her identity knowing her life was in danger. She has dedicated her life to speaking out on behalf of Muslim women. She has continued to receive death threats from Islamic men. I'm interested in whether you agree with her views.

So, perhaps you can explain what you meant by the below quotes and eyeroll emoji if you weren't attempting to discredit her?

I'm just trying to understand why you seem to be so keen to undermine ethnic women that go against the grain and speak out for women's rights. There seem to be plenty of other women in the West that don't like them getting above their station so you wouldn't be alone.

Gave a speech at the right leaning heritage association behind project 2025.

If so, I can understand why some of the posters on here think she is someone to quote.

Profect 2025 is linked with MAGA, Trump and far right ideology.

But nothing to see here though.

There were loads of threads about the attacks in Germany and Sweden. Perhaps you weren't on MN then?

They say all that is necessary for evil to prevail is that good people do nothing.

However, actively railing against people that try to do something isn't even 'doing nothing'. It's kind of the opposite.

Well don't worry, not even 50 of the 500 rapes that occurred on that night have been investigated so the poor confused perpetrators will be OK.

Well, it's been forgotten pretty quickly.

Here's an interesting thought experiment....

We're all well aware of the dangers posed by the trans lobby. Especially in terms of potential increases in sexual assault and women's safety.

It's been almost a decade since the NYE mass sexual assaults. Do you think that in all those years we've had as many sexual assaults perpetrated by transwomen as were perpetrated in that one single night in 2016?

Have we got 1200 sexual assaults, including 500 rapes, in that entire decade?

Which is the bigger material threat to women's safety and has resulted in the biggest measurable increase in sex crimes and VAWG?

BULLSHIT

I lived 2 doors down from an hmo in the early 200s that housed young men from God knows which country and they literally were in the street all night long being really loud, having teenage girls over doing God knows what and playing really loud music all night. By day they verbally abused my husband when walking past the house. This was nothing to do with the colour of their skin it was their outrageous antisocial behavior