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Ihateboris · 23/08/2025 12:35

Should be held at the council offices, Government departments, rather than the migrant hotels? After all, it's due to the government's lack of processing that the migrants are there?

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MyNameIsX · 25/08/2025 06:25

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If you have grounds to make a valid accusation of racism, you are obligated to report the poster to MN.

Please do so, or stop making baseless accusations - its lazy and hugely disrespectful to those who suffer genuine racism.

Hollyohara · 25/08/2025 07:25

Inchworms · 25/08/2025 00:15

Unfortunately I can’t open the link but taking it at face value. I guess where we differ is that I think it’s fair enough to be accommodating people and helping, even if that help is difficult and has a negative impact. Given the relative population size we’d be talking a very small increased real risk of harm to anyone, so I just see a bunch of wailing about a (potentially) very small increased risk from people who have lived through a war that the UK initiated and are likely to have all the post traumatic issues that that inevitably entails… it’s mad to me.

In a fair world, the UK would see a significant drop in living standards in order to raise others elsewhere. Then you would probably see a lot less migration to here. But it just seems people want cake twice - to continue to strip wealth from poorer countries and then go ‘no this is mine’ when people in those poorer countries understandably want that better life.

Here you are @Inchworms an archive link you can open, and some stats copied in the post. you’re welcome.

Wrt sex crimes prelim stats have been published, following a FOI request:

….the [sex crime] rates, based on convictions per 10,000 of the population put Afghans, with 77 convictions, at the top with a rate of 59 per 10,000 – 22.3 times that of Britons.

They were followed by Eritreans, who accounted for 59 convictions at a rate of 53.6 per 10,000 of their population.

Britons accounted for 12,619 sex offence convictions, representing a rate of 2.66 per per 10,000 of their population in England and Wales.

https://archive.md/6AXAy Archive version

Rather damning stats as you can see. Further more detailed stats are promised.

@poetryandwine some ‘sticking to facts’ facts for you.

Neither I nor anyone else can tell someone how to respond to the facts above. But facts they are, and they can’t be denied.

Work9to5 · 25/08/2025 07:32

TesChique · 25/08/2025 01:06

Shes not. Shes stating a correct challenge to a previous post.

She was deliberately missing the point. Those people have nothing. Do you think they arrive with wheel on suitcases and hand luggage? If they have any assets they have to find their own accommodation.

Charlthg · 25/08/2025 07:54

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PandoraSocks · 25/08/2025 09:14

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Says the poster who has been deleted more than once for throwing around some really nasty insults.

Charlthg · 25/08/2025 09:27

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You, obviously!

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The PP is playing with fire, I suggest…

PandoraSocks · 25/08/2025 12:27

MyNameIsX · 25/08/2025 09:59

The PP is playing with fire, I suggest…

Charlthg was indeed playing with fire, it seems.

MyNameIsX · 25/08/2025 12:47

@PandoraSocks

How many times do you intend to break your own self-imposed rule of not addressing me directly? Do I need to remind you?

Respect the agreement, instigated by you.

PandoraSocks · 25/08/2025 13:02
LlttledrummergirI · 25/08/2025 13:16

Myfamilys · 24/08/2025 23:23

Everything going on in this country and your only concern is which hotel people are being accommodated in! Fantastic. You are one of the people that are happy until you are told you will have 100 migrant men moving into a road near you and then you aren't quite such a fan

Typical MAGA argument.

Repeat a lie designed to whip up hate.
When lie is proven to be fake make an accusation of obsession about the issue.
Accuse those who disagree with you on this fact of supporting rapists.

Rinse and repeat.

Its obvious and tiresome.

MyNameIsX · 25/08/2025 13:36

The Chancellor.

For thinking that the migrant protests ...
Radiohat · 25/08/2025 13:48

Ihateboris · 24/08/2025 12:33

How do you know they're illegals? That's only confirmed or otherwise once they've been processed by the Home Office. So how do YOU know that they're illegals?

OK....I will be clear. I do not want to fund people arriving in boats.

PandoraSocks · 25/08/2025 13:52

Radiohat · 25/08/2025 13:48

OK....I will be clear. I do not want to fund people arriving in boats.

We all fund things we may not personally agree with.

Ihateboris · 25/08/2025 13:53

Radiohat · 25/08/2025 13:48

OK....I will be clear. I do not want to fund people arriving in boats.

I don't want to fund the Royal Family, but I have no choice.

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LlttledrummergirI · 25/08/2025 13:53

Radiohat · 25/08/2025 13:48

OK....I will be clear. I do not want to fund people arriving in boats.

How fo you want refugees to claim asylum then?

MyNameIsX · 25/08/2025 13:58

Radiohat · 25/08/2025 13:48

OK....I will be clear. I do not want to fund people arriving in boats.

Many people agree with you.

The Labour government campaigned on a deliberately obtuse ‘smashing the gangs’ and just this week, Cooper stated that the government want to ‘manage’ the cessation of asylum hotels. Belatedly, they might be waking up.

Wonder how the one in/one out is going? Seems to have gone quiet….

MyNameIsX · 25/08/2025 14:06

Ihateboris · 25/08/2025 13:53

I don't want to fund the Royal Family, but I have no choice.

GBP 132 mn versus 5.4 bn and climbing.

That ignores what the RF bring in for the UK.

Be serious, please.

Hollyohara · 25/08/2025 14:13

I have not seen any useful comment from Labour about the sex crime rate statistics associated with different nationalities living in the UK.
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….the [sex crime] rates, based on convictions per 10,000 of the population put Afghans, with 77 convictions, at the top with a rate of 59 per 10,000 – 22.3 times that of Britons.
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They were followed by Eritreans, who accounted for 59 convictions at a rate of 53.6 per 10,000 of their population.
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Britons accounted for 12,619 sex offence convictions, representing a rate of 2.66 per per 10,000 of their population in England and Wales.

https://archive.md/6AXAy Archive version

2/3 of convicted rapists in Sweden, are migrants or second gen immigrants. For that reason, amongst others, the Swedish government are clamping down on immigration. They claim they’ve reversed it.

https://portal.research.lu.se/en/activities/nearly-two-thirds-of-convicted-rapists-in-sweden-are-migrants-or-

There’s more data out there for anyone who wishes to find it.

The question is why are governments putting women and girls at higher risk of sex crimes? Hundreds of thousands of men are entering Europe, from countries where women and girls are second class citizens. One can see from an example of sex crime statistics posted above, that consequences to women and girls safety are catastrophic.

Why does no one in power give a shit about this? This is why a lot of people are angry and upset. It’s not going away. Why aren’t we following Sweden? Or Australia? Just ideas, but the politicians need to protect us. It’s their job. We pay them - they work For Us - and they need to ensure our safety.

How many women and girls need to be raped by immigrant men / asylum seeking men until the government put a stop to it? Admittedly it’s taken them long enough to pay attention to the Rochdale paedophiles raping children. Even then they were reticent.

Labour really do hate women. But we knew that.

PandoraSocks · 25/08/2025 14:44

Latest figures show that out of over 10 million foreign nationals, 377 are convicted of sexual offences each year.

That is a vanishingly low percentage of the foreign national population.

But it doesn't sound so dramatic presented that way, does it?

Hollyohara · 25/08/2025 15:00

PandoraSocks · 25/08/2025 14:44

Latest figures show that out of over 10 million foreign nationals, 377 are convicted of sexual offences each year.

That is a vanishingly low percentage of the foreign national population.

But it doesn't sound so dramatic presented that way, does it?

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Aw @PandoraSocks i knew I could rely on you.. You can change wording and definitions, you can ignore the data I presented and its’ consequences , if you wish. I’d expect no more.

Hundreds of Thousands of men entering the uk from countries where women and girls are treated as second class citizens (putting it politely) is a problem.

If you choose not to see that, I’m not sure what else there is to say.

PandoraSocks · 25/08/2025 15:19

Hollyohara · 25/08/2025 15:00

Aw @PandoraSocks i knew I could rely on you.. You can change wording and definitions, you can ignore the data I presented and its’ consequences , if you wish. I’d expect no more.

Hundreds of Thousands of men entering the uk from countries where women and girls are treated as second class citizens (putting it politely) is a problem.

If you choose not to see that, I’m not sure what else there is to say.

Aw @PandoraSocks i knew I could rely on you.. You can change wording and definitions, you can ignore the data I presented and its’ consequences , if you wish. I’d expect no more

I don't think we have ever engaged before, have we?

I haven't changed wordings or definitions. I have used the figures the Telegraph reported which in turn came from the FOI to MoJ.

377 sexual assaults is of course 377 too many. But the scaremongering is out of kilter with the actual facts.

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