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To have limited sympathy with ds with these GCSE results or am I to blame?

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coffeerevelsrule · 21/08/2025 16:43

I am starting to struggle with the way ds has reacted to his GCSE results, though I also feel a bit guilty and din't know if I should have done more to improve them.

So he got 3x 8s, 4 x 7s, 2 x 6s and failed further maths - taught in hour long sessions once a fortnight after school in Y11 only. One of the 6s was a subject he had originally had as his top A level choice (chem) but he'd been wobbling on that for a while, probably as he suspected it wasn't going as well as it could have. My original reaction was to be thrilled and proud (and a tiny bit relieved) but as his mood has dipped so has mine.

Background is his brother got all 9s 2 years ago and has just got all A stars and an Oxbridge place. He was also head boy, captain of a sports team, very confident all round and insanely driven. I wouldn't say gifted but very competitive and very strategic in how he approached study, revision, Oxbridge prep - everything. DS2 is much quieter, not sporty and not driven. He's bright, whatever that actually means, but not competitive and not especially hard working. Not lazy and actually diligent - would hate to get told off for not doing something, but not burning with curiosity or a desire to beat his best score, or that of his friend, either.

As an only child who's heard nightmare tales of sibling rivalry, I always feared his trying to compete with ds1 and coming up short so I have been careful not to push, not to compare and not to suggest ds1 is a role model to be emulated. I thought that was the right thing to do but now ds2 is disappointed with his results. He wanted a couple of 9s, he thinks he looks 'shit' compared to ds1 and he didn't want any 6s. 'Everyone' has done better, apparently. Maybe I gave the message that I didn't think him capable of what ds1 did, but this is not my view - I just didn't want to cause him stress or make their relationship toxic.

My patience is wearing thin. I didn't push but we did have many conversations about his work ethic, whether he was revising, what he was doing when he came across topics he didn't understand etc. He was always highly resistant to any input from me, insisted he knew best to the point of stubbornness. I also teach one of the subjects (his least fave) and was always offering to help with that, mark answers etc and he was highly resistant, though we did some. He got 7 in that in the end, which I think is good as he hated it but now he is complaining as another friend with a teacher parent got a 9 in that subject despite doing worse in the mocks than him. Yes, ds, but I offered more help and you barely took me up on it! In the mock he finished 25 minutes before the end and insisted 'everyone' had, despite my saying I had never come across high achievers who could do that in my subject, never. But he knew best. His Y10 mocks were a wake up call and he cried then too, but the Dec mocks were better (quite similar to these) so maybe that lulled me into a false sense of security, I don't know.

I feel like saying, 'if you wanted 9s you should have put more work in and listened to advice, now stop complaining!' Would this be unreasonable? His brother is bright but also hardworking and ds2 is less so. This is the consequence and it's hardly a disaster anyway. Or would that be too harsh? I really don't want the same at A level and I think those grades will ultimately be more important than these so I'm wondering do I need to handle it differently and toughen up from the start?

In short, have I let him down by allowing him to coast a bit? DS1 thinks so...

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PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 21/08/2025 16:47

I don’t think you’ve let him down, but nor is there anything wrong with pointing out that you get out what you put in…

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 21/08/2025 16:48

I don’t think you’ve let him down, but nor is there anything wrong with pointing out that you get out what you put in…

wizzywig · 21/08/2025 16:48

i dont tend to pussyfoot and id want this to be a teachable moment. His way did not result in success. He now has the evidence. No need to say 'be like your brother ' as he is his own person.
I'd be clear he needs a proper structure, he needs to put the work in at a steady pace. Say yes this is shit, but get over it and let's start afresh.

TyroleanKnockabout · 21/08/2025 16:48

I don’t think anything would be achieved by telling him he should have revised more now. If he’s disappointed he’s probably learnt his lesson. His grades are good though! I’m going to guess he’s at quite a prestigious school if ‘everyone’ did better.

Branleuse · 21/08/2025 16:49

Tell him they are bloody decent grades, and that youre not sure why he is upset, nor why he is acting like there's anything you can do about it now even if they weren't.
You dont have to get involved with it.

MissyB1 · 21/08/2025 16:49

This isn’t about his results, this is about his self esteem. He has perfectly good results, but he can’t be proud of himself because he believes he isn’t good enough, note I said “he” not the results. It’s really really hard being the younger sibling of a high achiever. Your job now is to patiently keep congratulating him, telling him how brilliant his results are, and how proud you are. Tell him he mustn’t put himself down, he’s done himself proud. Don’t get frustrated and say something you may later regret.

MamaElephantMama · 21/08/2025 16:50

Ha results are good. Does he realise that some kids haven’t passed anything?

The pressure for 9s is mind boggling.

myplace · 21/08/2025 16:50

“What would you have liked to do differently, DS?”

”What will you do differently for As, and is there anything I can do to help?”

AwkwardPaws27 · 21/08/2025 16:52

I feel like saying, 'if you wanted 9s you should have put more work in and listened to advice, now stop complaining!' Would this be unreasonable?

I think this might come across as a little harsh (although I understand where you are coming from!) & not have the results you want, but a slightly more tactical while still frank conversation might help. I.e something like "DS, I'm proud of you and your results, but I can see you are disappointed. I know you want to do A Levels and I don't want you to feel the same way about those results, so can we work together to make a study plan so you can get the results you want?".

Would he swallow his pride & accept some advice from his brother? Or maybe find some YouTube study accounts to see how others have planned their approach?

redskydelight · 21/08/2025 16:52

I think a child who is disappointed with those results is getting the message that only 9s is good enough. I wonder if he quietly felt that he could never live up to his brother so there was no point trying.

He needs you tell him that you are proud of his results and of him, and not to start on the "if only you'd done this conversation" which will simply reinforce his view that he's not good enough.

Lambtangine · 21/08/2025 16:53

My answer to his moaning would be that he needs to let this be the kick up the arse he needs for A level. He knows what he needs to do now and he needs to get his finger out for A level.

🤷🏼‍♀️

coffeerevelsrule · 21/08/2025 16:53

Not at a prestigious school at all - by 'everyone' he means the handful of people he spoke to, and they got broadly similar to him from what I can work out, though I'm not encouraging too much comparing.

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ElfAndSafetyBored · 21/08/2025 16:54

I agree with the above poster.

Plus academic achievement - whilst great - is not the be all and end all. I have loads more qualifications than my brother, luckily we both love our jobs, be he earns more than double what I do.

Your DS2 got great results and can do what he wants. He needs to take responsibility for his own results though. It’s not your fault.

NuovaPilbeam · 21/08/2025 16:55

I might wait a couple of days. Results day emotions are high and he will resent the message.

If you sit down in a couple of days and say "DS, these are good results, your dad and I are proud. But i think you know for yourself, you have the capability for a bit more, if you dig a bit deeper the A-levels you want are there for the taking."

Don't focus on "you could have done better in the GCSEs" - too late now. Focus on "you are in control of how well you do in those A levels, if you put the work in and know you've done your best you will be chuffed to bits on results day."

IdaGlossop · 21/08/2025 16:57

Hopefully a few days reflection will lead your DS2 to see he has done well (but not as well as he would have liked), that he needs to work harder (if he wants to do better), and that heeding your advice would be wise in future. You haven't let him down. No parent can force a 16-year old to study. He's learning an important lesson the hard way. There is every possibility of him getting three good A levels and going to a Russell Group university, if that's what he wants to do.

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NuovaPilbeam · 21/08/2025 16:57

"DS, I'm proud of you and your results, but I can see you are disappointed. I know you want to do A Levels and I don't want you to feel the same way about those results, so can we work together to make a study plan so you can get the results you want?

This is really well worded.

katmarie · 21/08/2025 16:59

Many years ago, I got a B in gcse Spanish, and the first thing my teacher said to me was 'think what you might have got if you'd tried harder'. It pissed me off at the time, and it still irritates me now, largely because she was right. It did not inspire me to actually try harder though, and in fact I dropped out of college without any a levels a few months later.

My point is he's probably smarting a bit from knowing he could perhaps have done better, and is lashing out a bit at you, because you're the person who is there right now.

I would remind him that his grades really are fabulous, and then back off and let the dust settle a bit. Give him some time to settle back into school and get started on A levels, and then try and have a productive forward thinking conversation, about what he learned from doing his gcses and what changes he might want to make if he wants different results at a level, and what support might help him get there. He is where he is, but he needs some time to come to acceptance on that before he can move forwards.

Liliwen · 21/08/2025 16:59

I would reassure him that he’s got really good grades. I wouldn’t say well you should have done this that or whatever as I don’t think it’ll help. It’s not on you at all, he’s capable of revising himself. I also wouldn’t say yes it’s shit, because it’s not.

like a pp suggested- I would advise him to have a think about what he’s learnt from his approach to his GCSEs and what he would do differently or the same for A levels. I’d reiterate that like during GCSEs, you’re available for revision help if he asks for it. It’s probably a bit raw right now so I’d have this conversation in a few days and for now just reassure him that he’s done well and you’re proud of him. It must be quite hard to live up to a big brother who has done so well so having that reassurance that you’re happy with his grades will be good for him even if he argues about it

coffeerevelsrule · 21/08/2025 16:59

I've only said positive and supportive things so far. He's online with a friend at the moment and it's just I feel if he comes down with the same attitude he had earlier I won't be able to take a whole evening of it, but I will try my best! I do feel bad for him just because he's disappointed and I wish I could have found the way to get through to him sooner.

I think waiting a few days and then talking about how to make A levels different is a good idea. His brother has already told him Y12 is the key year and advised him how to spend his frees - and he does actually listen to him and has said he will be doing following the advice when they discussed it while we were away this summer.

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RomainingCalm · 21/08/2025 17:00

It's a tough day for him today and I suspect his emotions are all over the place. I'd validate those feelings - it's ok for him to be disappointed/frustrated/upset or whatever he's feeling. Step back from talking about exams and results and for the next couple of days just be there for him. Give him some hugs and make it really clear that you love him unconditionally - you're not disappointed with him and he hasn't let you down.

Eventually you'll get to a point where you can probably ask him some of those questions about what he might do differently in 6th Form, what does he think went wrong etc. but today's not the day for it.

It's really hard to see them so upset but whilst it feels raw today it'll feel a bit better tomorrow and a bit better again next week once all the talk of 'who got what' dies down.

One of my DC didn't want to celebrate what were still good grades because they weren't what she expected. It took a bit of time but she's had the best year in college, has got her head down and worked hard and is focused on university. It just takes time.

It won't feel it right now but your son will learn a valuable lesson in resilience and handling disappointment. And you could argue that it's better to have this at 16 than in two year's time. Everyone has to deal with bumps in the road at some point and hopefully he'll come out the other side even stronger.

Ablondiebutagoody · 21/08/2025 17:00

I would let the dust settle for a couple of weeks and then tell him that if he wants better A-Level results, he needs to put more effort in.

Snorlaxo · 21/08/2025 17:02

In short, have I let him down by allowing him to coast a bit? DS1 thinks so... Did you mean ds2 thinks so? If you want to minimise sibling rivalry then discussing ds2 with ds1 is very wrong.

FatherFrosty · 21/08/2025 17:02

Fucking hell. Those are excellent results.
this years cohort had a really rough ride. The marks are down across the board as the boundaries were harsh, they didn’t get any covid consideration like previous years. They didn’t sit their sats, and spent the first few years of secondary not having proper lessons and formal exam sitting until year 9/10. That meant they had to quickly get comfortable with exam prep and sitting.
he’s done really well and hopefully with time he can see that.
perhaps he’s disappointed in himself for not trying harder. Maybe he did try hard and it didn’t stick.
either way. He did well.

fluffythecat1 · 21/08/2025 17:03

Sounds like it’s the high emotion of the day, maybe take some time for yourself- get out for a run or whatever is self-care for you.

Roundaboot · 21/08/2025 17:03

myplace · 21/08/2025 16:50

“What would you have liked to do differently, DS?”

”What will you do differently for As, and is there anything I can do to help?”

As the younger sibling of an academic high achiever, I would definitely have appreciated this approach way more than "if you'd have worked harder, you'd have got better results". Trust me, your DS knows this, and if he's anything like me, having gone through all of school being constantly compared to my older sibling (by teachers, other pupils, one of my parents) then if you say anything along those lines, he will hear it as "you're not as good as your brother"
He's got a good set of results so praise him for that, and help him focus on what's coming next for him.