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AIBU to think that racism is getting a lot worse of late.

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AliceMaforethought · 20/08/2025 18:13

Just read this awful story in the Guardian. Awful and makes me feel so angry and so unsafe as a half Black woman.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/20/family-in-fear-after-tommy-robinson-shares-video-of-black-man-with-white-granddaughters

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Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 20/08/2025 19:53

I dont think its getting worse. What i think is these people are feeling more free to reveal themselves. I think we are seeing what these people thought all along. It's just they now feel brave enough to show their true bigoted selves.

They were wearing masks all along imo.

Chiseltip · 20/08/2025 19:55

AliceMaforethought · 20/08/2025 18:13

Just read this awful story in the Guardian. Awful and makes me feel so angry and so unsafe as a half Black woman.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/20/family-in-fear-after-tommy-robinson-shares-video-of-black-man-with-white-granddaughters

No it isn't.

But the media keep pushing the same narrative.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 20/08/2025 19:56

MiloMinderbinder925 · 20/08/2025 19:51

Everyone is against illegal immigrants, they shouldn't be in the country. The problem is where immigrants are all lumped together and discussed in racist terms for example, paedophiles, scroungers and rapists.

No one is saying don't discuss immigration, people are saying discuss it without dehumanising and denigrating people. If you're incapable of doing that then you're part of the problem.

There's much to be proud of about being British such as decency and tolerance. Those features aren't expressed by wrapping yourself up in a flag and baying at vulnerable people seeking refuge.

Who do you regard as legal and who as illegal?

Danes
Normans
Huguenots
Palatines (German)
Irish
Caribbean
Indian
Pakistani
Bangladeshi
Hungarian
Polish

Are you aware that asylum seekers aren't illegal? Many, many asylum seekers arrive on small boats. Application for asylum is a lengthy LEGAL process.

PandoraSocks · 20/08/2025 19:56

ilovesooty · 20/08/2025 19:51

Didn't see what you said, but presumably the view you offered breached the Talk Guidelines.

Personal attack alongside unashamedly fan girling/boying Yaxley-Lennon.

Stream77 · 20/08/2025 19:56

DonnatellaLyman · 20/08/2025 19:35

Loads of white people move to London. Lots of people move out cities as they get older - for more space, bigger houses etc.

White people dont have to factor whether they will encounter racism in their new community into their ‘should we stay or should we go’ equation.

I didn’t say that no white people move to London. I was commenting on the net figure which is reducing as is the case in nearly all cities.

Your comment about white people not factoring in being victims of racism when they decide where to live is bizarre. People aren’t moving because they are victims of racism rather that many feel the negative aspects of diversity outweigh any positives.

In many areas it is the single biggest factor impacting house prices. People don’t like to admit it but the numbers don’t lie.

It’s no different to when new build sites have affordable housing. The builders have to sell the ones next to them at a cheaper price and they are always the last to sell because many people prefer to live surrounded by what they consider to be likeminded folk.

When push comes to shove a lot of people are nowhere near as virtuous as they claim.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 20/08/2025 19:57

Slightyamusedandsilly · 20/08/2025 19:56

Who do you regard as legal and who as illegal?

Danes
Normans
Huguenots
Palatines (German)
Irish
Caribbean
Indian
Pakistani
Bangladeshi
Hungarian
Polish

Are you aware that asylum seekers aren't illegal? Many, many asylum seekers arrive on small boats. Application for asylum is a lengthy LEGAL process.

I know asylum seekers aren't illegal.

Bushmillsbabe · 20/08/2025 19:57

Stream77 · 20/08/2025 19:17

There isn’t net migration of white people into London.

The point I was making is that net migration of white people is away from diverse areas in cities and out towards less diverse smaller towns and semi rural areas which have seen far higher property price increases than cities have.

We used to live in West London and our DD1 started at the local primary. We noticed she wasnt being invited to any parties or playdates, and our invites were nearly all turned down. We saw some of her classmates in the park one day, she walked over to them and started playing with them, then their mums called them over and when they came back they said 'we aren't allowed to play with you'. Thinking she had maybe upset or accidentally hurt one of them I walked over to one of the mums to apologise, she said to me ' sorry no English' (i knew she spoke good english as heard her talking to class teacher at pick up) and walked back to her friends. They were laughing and pointing at DD calling her 'slutty' because she was wearing shorts on a hot day.

So yes, we moved out of London during covid, as DH could then work from home, and we wanted to live somewhere where we felt part of a commuinity, and we needed more space than our current home, and wanted a place which was calmer than London. Racism definitely played a part in our move, and should definitely never be tolerated

My husbands family are immigrants, and they too say how they experienced discrimination when they came to England, but found London was more accepting than rural areas, it's strange now that it's become more racist/divided than rural areas.

rubicustellitall · 20/08/2025 20:01

PandoraSocks · 20/08/2025 19:56

Personal attack alongside unashamedly fan girling/boying Yaxley-Lennon.

Pointing out documented truths ok and reality. No fan worship here just Facts
Personal attack I apologise most sincerely for calling the poster a fool

LavenderBlue19 · 20/08/2025 20:10

rubicustellitall · 20/08/2025 20:01

Pointing out documented truths ok and reality. No fan worship here just Facts
Personal attack I apologise most sincerely for calling the poster a fool

You said Tommy Robinson isn't racist. Given his membership of the BNP, and that he founded the EDL, I think the facts suggest that he very much is.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 20/08/2025 20:14

LavenderBlue19 · 20/08/2025 20:10

You said Tommy Robinson isn't racist. Given his membership of the BNP, and that he founded the EDL, I think the facts suggest that he very much is.

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We all know he is.

Livelovebehappy · 20/08/2025 20:15

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Babybirdmum · 20/08/2025 20:15

AliceMaforethought · 20/08/2025 18:13

Just read this awful story in the Guardian. Awful and makes me feel so angry and so unsafe as a half Black woman.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/20/family-in-fear-after-tommy-robinson-shares-video-of-black-man-with-white-granddaughters

I am a Practice Nurse and I’ve had 3 patients tell me they’re moving to a different area because of the immigration in their area in the last 10 years. I think it’s a shame because most of the immigrants are lovely. However I do think we live in a divided nation. If there was more integration rather than segregation and if communities were more spread out rather than condensed into particular areas I think it would be less tense. America has got more segregated, all I ever hear about is black and white and I think there was one point we had more of a focus on our similarities than our differences. Now it’s all about culture. We’re in an age where being in a box labelling your identity to stereotypes is the norm whereas I think we shouldn’t do that to ourselves.

Happyher · 20/08/2025 20:17

I think the Brexit referendum opened the Pandora’s box of people feeling free to say all the hateful stuff they knew was offensive. People like Farage led the charge. I will always detest him for this

Purplerubberducky · 20/08/2025 20:17

Osmosisfreight · 20/08/2025 19:07

There’s always been racism of course, but I feel like people are not scared to be openly racist anymore, it’s like they are proud to admit it! It really saddens me

This!
The racists are becoming more racist. I think it’s people seeing how Americans are allowed to be openly racist now and copying over here.
I hope more people are not becoming racist. I think because we see so much of it on social media now we start to think it’s becoming more prevalent when actually it’s the same old idiots and it attracts engagement so we see it constantly. I think and hope it does not reflect the real world.
However, it is really worrying that it’s becoming more and more acceptable in the US and UK and we are seeing more and more of this racially motivated shit. Anti racism needs to be taught and instilled into children in schools and that means no ignorant staff at schools whatsoever.

Purplerubberducky · 20/08/2025 20:22

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Erm. They’re probably asking for a different reason that if it were vice versa.
It would be weird of someone to post that and I would lol.
Do these posts upset you? Do you feel you may suffer racial abuse if you accidentally move to a black area and people don’t want you there? Or?

Gladysknightjustwalkinmyshoes · 20/08/2025 20:27

Porkychops · 20/08/2025 19:02

Having just driven to work through an avenue of England falls, I agree. Feel depressed, we are going back to the days of the National Front it seems

I've said that on a few threads,the extreme far right have never gone away if you're old enough to remember the NF /BNP then you'll recognise the language and rhetoric.
The racism won't stop at asylum seekers once emboldened it will be directed to anyone of colour.
Mixed race relationships are a definite no no to the extreme far right as it's seen as the dilution of the white race.

Bushmillsbabe · 20/08/2025 20:28

Racism is definitely becoming more prevalent, as is misogyny. For the first time ever in my 23 year career I have had families ask to see a different physio due to my ethnicity, and also ask for a male staff member, and tut at me for working when I mention i have children 'my wife stays home and looks after our children properly' 'doesn't your husband earn enough so you have to work'. Also accusing me of racism when I state we can't see as they arrived so late, or dont recomend a certain treatment, or advise i have concerns that they arent following our advice and potential negative impact on their child. I think racism has always been an issue.but people feel more emboldened to express it under guise of 'free speech'

abreakplease · 20/08/2025 20:31

I've lived in the UK for 30 years and to be honest, have always felt that it was bubbling under the surface, with various narratives (direct line from 'politically correct' to 'woke') holding it down. Now it feels like a free for all and it is genuinely frightening. I'm an immigrant but white and speak English, so apart from having the piss taken out of my accent, the 'top of the morning' nonsense and a couple of road ragers calling me a Paddy (guess where I'm from?!) I feel like I get away very lightly. Truly awful times.

Baggingarea · 20/08/2025 20:32

I dont believe the UK is more racist. I think it has just become less taboo to voice racist opinions which have always been held.

Chunkychickenlicken · 20/08/2025 20:33

Sirzy · 20/08/2025 18:16

I think a lot of people have become a lot less tolerant of others. I think too many believe dangerous narratives about anyone who isn’t white British.

Absolutely.

Yea OP that story is terrible and the man’s management company sound spineless to sack him off because a bunch of racist ranty idiots pressured them.

So a bit off topic but related - the fact that anyone can just take a video of anyone - including minors and post it on social media - is problematic. I think the law needs to be updated

Slightyamusedandsilly · 20/08/2025 20:36

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Oh, you mean like the man the article was written about? Wanting to be somewhere more multicultural, to attempt to live safely? How dare they!

Dunno about your life, but my multicultural family have no issues at all until they encounter racists such as Yaxley Lennon and his blackshirts.

DdraigGoch · 20/08/2025 20:37

PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock · 20/08/2025 19:05

FFS! These dickheads conveniently forget the worst paedophile in British history was fucking white!

There's a notorious nonce in the US at the moment.

He's orange.

Anyway, I hope that the bloke in the story sues Tommy two-names.

DollyPinkDaydream · 20/08/2025 20:37

I’ve travelled and lived across the world and actually the UK is one of the least racist places I’ve been to on the planet. As a country we are admittedly in a bit of a dip, but anyone who thinks we aren’t on the whole tolerant and inclusive needs to try living elsewhere for a while so they have a better frame of reference…

bellabasset · 20/08/2025 20:42

There has been a lot in the press about migrant crosd

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