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To ask those who are not white brittish how they feel about the flags?

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PicaK · 18/08/2025 13:32

Birmingham and Tower Hamlets are having St George England flags put up by privately funded groups.
I'm horrified by the implicit racism. I've seen a lot of white people applauding this and "time we took back the country" comments.
I haven't seen many non white people commenting. My feel is that they are too intimidated to do so. Am I right? Or is it indifference or is it that you're dealing with racism on a daily level and this is just one more thing.
Please don't post if you're white.whatever you feel about the flags. I want to hear on white viewd

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Dangermoo · 19/08/2025 11:06

Goldenbear · 19/08/2025 11:04

Do we all have to think the same them.

Well apparently all white English people do.

SquishedMallow · 19/08/2025 11:06

PInkyStarfish · 19/08/2025 10:58

Lovely to see this being shared all over Facebook.

Only problem is : are the black and brown ones allowed to put them up ? Op doesn't think they're British and has already deduced by virtue of their skin colour it'll automatically offend them 🙄

Dangermoo · 19/08/2025 11:08

SquishedMallow · 19/08/2025 11:06

Only problem is : are the black and brown ones allowed to put them up ? Op doesn't think they're British and has already deduced by virtue of their skin colour it'll automatically offend them 🙄

The mods keep assuring us there is consistent moderation. This thread says differently.

SquishedMallow · 19/08/2025 11:08

Dangermoo · 19/08/2025 11:06

Well apparently all white English people do.

Absolutely!!

We're all genocidal bastards who automatically hate everyone non English or non British. Still, I suppose it's better than the extreme left - the op doesn't think black and brown people even are British.

DeLaRuiz · 19/08/2025 11:09

Sdpbody · 19/08/2025 11:00

I really do agree here!!

I do hate how people are allowed to say whatever they want about white people, or English people, or British people. We just have to take it and accept it.

People are absolutely fed up with it, hence the flag situation.

I think the constant history shaming is finished, it’s been discredited. Nobody shames Germans constantly for ww2. It’s envious attack, there is huge envy of Britain, and haters gonna hate, but we see you for what you are, petty reproachers with nothing to offer.

DeLaRuiz · 19/08/2025 11:11

Dangermoo · 19/08/2025 11:08

The mods keep assuring us there is consistent moderation. This thread says differently.

I think it’s being made clear that racism and hate speech against Britain and White peoples is a real problem, and that it can no longer be tolerated. White lives Matter.

Dangermoo · 19/08/2025 11:11

DeLaRuiz · 19/08/2025 11:09

I think the constant history shaming is finished, it’s been discredited. Nobody shames Germans constantly for ww2. It’s envious attack, there is huge envy of Britain, and haters gonna hate, but we see you for what you are, petty reproachers with nothing to offer.

Absolutely spot on with the envy.

Goldenbear · 19/08/2025 11:15

SquishedMallow · 19/08/2025 11:08

Absolutely!!

We're all genocidal bastards who automatically hate everyone non English or non British. Still, I suppose it's better than the extreme left - the op doesn't think black and brown people even are British.

Why is someone who disagrees with your position on this labelled as the "extreme left"? There's a whole political spectrum out there, many of us just paying our taxes and sitting somewhere in the middle.

Dangermoo · 19/08/2025 11:17

Goldenbear · 19/08/2025 11:15

Why is someone who disagrees with your position on this labelled as the "extreme left"? There's a whole political spectrum out there, many of us just paying our taxes and sitting somewhere in the middle.

Yet, you have no problem with the ubiquitous use of far right, when a different view is offered. The double standards just keep on giving.

Goldenbear · 19/08/2025 11:28

Dangermoo · 19/08/2025 11:17

Yet, you have no problem with the ubiquitous use of far right, when a different view is offered. The double standards just keep on giving.

I literally just posted that most people sit in the middle of the political spectrum so that includes the right of middle and left of middle, no double standards here.

SquishedMallow · 19/08/2025 11:28

Goldenbear · 19/08/2025 11:15

Why is someone who disagrees with your position on this labelled as the "extreme left"? There's a whole political spectrum out there, many of us just paying our taxes and sitting somewhere in the middle.

I too am firmly centre.

The op is falling over herself to not be racist but has ended up being extremely racist. That's normally an extreme left thing ?

Piggywaspushed · 19/08/2025 11:30

SquishedMallow · 19/08/2025 10:53

But in a way, that's a you problem that you see it that way. Do you view the German flag and think "war, genocide, evil, concentration camps " ? Or is all this contempt for the British flag just because we allow people to bully/insult us because we're weak compared to the patriotism and pride of other nations ?

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Do you even remotely understand the context of what this poster is saying?

Sectarianism is a her problem? OK.

Piggywaspushed · 19/08/2025 11:32

PInkyStarfish · 19/08/2025 10:58

Lovely to see this being shared all over Facebook.

Where does the original post come from? I noticed that's cropped.

Dangermoo · 19/08/2025 11:35

Piggywaspushed · 19/08/2025 11:30

Do you even remotely understand the context of what this poster is saying?

Sectarianism is a her problem? OK.

Whilst genocide isn't an English problem.

Goldenbear · 19/08/2025 11:35

SquishedMallow · 19/08/2025 11:28

I too am firmly centre.

The op is falling over herself to not be racist but has ended up being extremely racist. That's normally an extreme left thing ?

The OP hasn't returned so surely you should draw your own conclusions about that?

LakieLady · 19/08/2025 11:36

When and where are these "weekly hate marches", please? I haven't seen them on the news.

It's illegal to display Hamas or Hezbollah flags, and people have been arrested and charged for this (including the Kneecap guy). I've only seen the Palestinian flag being carried at the PSC marches on tv, so the BBC must be avoiding showing the others.

Charlthg · 19/08/2025 11:38

Jamfirstest · 19/08/2025 08:19

@Charlthgof course the reason why immigrants come here can be explained - surely it’s employment, infrastructure and safety. Or in a different order depending on the person.
It’s not a binary thing. High immigration doesn’t equal the county must be perfect and we must be blindly patriotic does it?

So immigrants come here for safety, and the country is racist and safe for immigrants at the same time.

The argument does not stack up.

Those always going on about the country being racist and national flag being racist simply cannot explain this.

Dangermoo · 19/08/2025 11:39

LakieLady · 19/08/2025 11:36

When and where are these "weekly hate marches", please? I haven't seen them on the news.

It's illegal to display Hamas or Hezbollah flags, and people have been arrested and charged for this (including the Kneecap guy). I've only seen the Palestinian flag being carried at the PSC marches on tv, so the BBC must be avoiding showing the others.

Best asking the Jewish community. Just a thought.

faffadoodledo · 19/08/2025 11:43

DeLaRuiz · 19/08/2025 11:09

I think the constant history shaming is finished, it’s been discredited. Nobody shames Germans constantly for ww2. It’s envious attack, there is huge envy of Britain, and haters gonna hate, but we see you for what you are, petty reproachers with nothing to offer.

I think the Germans have grasped their past in an institutional fashion. For example every German school child must visit the Holocaust museum in Berlin. If they’re off sick that day I believe they must visit another day. There’s no dodging their dodgy past. And rightly so.

Dangermoo · 19/08/2025 11:45

Piggywaspushed · 19/08/2025 09:53

Are you saying white supremacists don't exist?

I've not seen the post using this term but if it was in reference to the co opting of the flag by white supremacists that has definitely happened. They're quite open about this and bang on about the Crusades when they have a moment.

White supremists, as black supremists, exist. Not sure how tarring anybody who puts a union jack in their back garden. As a WS, helps.

Dangermoo · 19/08/2025 11:46

faffadoodledo · 19/08/2025 11:43

I think the Germans have grasped their past in an institutional fashion. For example every German school child must visit the Holocaust museum in Berlin. If they’re off sick that day I believe they must visit another day. There’s no dodging their dodgy past. And rightly so.

Bloody awful, more like, to shame kids!!!

SquishedMallow · 19/08/2025 11:49

Piggywaspushed · 19/08/2025 11:30

Do you even remotely understand the context of what this poster is saying?

Sectarianism is a her problem? OK.

Do you even remotedly understand the context of what I was trying to say ?

SquishedMallow · 19/08/2025 11:51

Dangermoo · 19/08/2025 11:46

Bloody awful, more like, to shame kids!!!

Absolutely! And it's nothing to do with "Germans" most of them were just as much victim. They were all terrified and dictated to by an Austrian evil nut case. Oh, there's a point, the Austrian flag..... 🙄

LakieLady · 19/08/2025 11:53

Lonelycrab · 18/08/2025 20:34

@Dangermoo you continue to be beyond ridiculous. Do you think anyone takes you seriously lol

”hard left”

Is that anyone who’s heads not up Nigel garages arse?😂

Only one person who’s spreading seeds of division and anyone with a brain can clearly see it’s him

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Oh, that's not fair!

There's Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, Lee Anderson and a fair few others, as well.

SquishedMallow · 19/08/2025 11:53

Dangermoo · 19/08/2025 11:17

Yet, you have no problem with the ubiquitous use of far right, when a different view is offered. The double standards just keep on giving.

Don't they just. Anyone not willing to self deprecate and all the double standards that go with it are instantly far right extremists 🙄 the far left are so far left that they're far right.

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