To think that the USA is a dictatorship now?

[spoonbillstretford]

Trump appears to have ultimate power. Who can challenge him? Who controls him? Presidents should not be dictating what drug companies charge for medicines on a whim, or indeed any other goods, at the drop of a hat. He says jump and the US says "How High?" What on earth have you done to yourselves and the world to let this evil, thick, orange toddler clown represent you? What the hell were you thinking?

Well, this is a country where citizens are now picked up by the immigration authorities and 'vanished' without trace - if they look a little bit brown.

It's a country where the judiciary is being gutted or set aside and where the Executive does what it wants.

It's a country where the Constitution, always held so sacred by the GOP, is being ignored or reinterpreted to suit the political agenda of those in power.

I'd say there's a hell of a lot wrong with the checks and balances in the US. My DC are US citizens - needless to say they will not be going anywhere near the place.

Think it’s the UK you’re talking about under Starmer or maybe you haven’t noticed what’s actually going on here? Wish we had President Trumps in office here, this shower are destroying our country and its people.

Not yet. But it is easy to argue that “The Unitary Executive Theory is a Pathway to Autocracy"

We are actually better. at least we have bodily autonomy not to be forced into more trauma into carrying the child to full term. Do you not think these things happen everywhere? As shameful and aborhent those acts were. You do realise how much our own Police were involved don’t you? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9y0lvpyqvo.amp

At least our elected leader hasn’t had to pay off a porn star or have accusations of having relations with underaged girls follow his leadership. No Epstein files for Keir.

Yes, why would we have a view on a world superpower whose actions can affect all our lives? Seemingly at the drop of a hat, a brainfart comes out of his gob and suddenly our drugs cost 70% more. Why would we have a view on that?

Don't worry, I'm sure soon you won't be allowed to have a view that opposes your government or President and won't be able to hear any of our uncomfortable criticism from elsewhere. I just hope you've read The Hunger Games and The Handmaid's Tale.

Diet and exercise cost nothing.

The UK were getting cheap weight loss drugs and the gravy boat has now been pulled.

Hardly Handmaidens Tale.

Actual men who do things as men used to do them. That topic is also very hated here. Is Starmer better and in what way....

Also lefties tard if you disagree with one of those arse liking Tommy Robinson fans and refomers works both ways. Extremists on both sides.

Many of us in the uk have no choice in who is in government. Don’t waste your brain cells on that it’s a conundrum you will not work out and i won’t enlighten you.

america is a hellhole just now. And is being trashed and asset stripped. Best wishes.

Communism, lol. The UK is the most communist country right now

Indeed. The decline and transformation of the UK is astonishing to outsiders. But any mention of UK’s own problems is resisted - seems Brits would rather obsess over the orange man instead of getting their own house in order. Those in glass houses, etc. Tragic to see.

You seem to be mixing left and right with authoritarian and liberal. People can be left wing and liberal, left wing and authoritarian, right wing and liberal, right wing and authoritarian. Trump is a right wing extreme authoritarian, i.e. a dictator. How often does he debate or listen to other people's views or accept that others have different views? Never.

There are people on Mumsnet that all but say this.

OK, so you do not see the many 12 year old girls raped here by the gangs and nobody doing anything about it....like really, where is the better part in this? A thread clearly about rivals the UK and the USA

I’m not an American, why would I have that problem?

You’re well on your way in the UK - the country that has imprisoned more people for what they’ve posted on Twitter than Putin’s Russia.

And I don’t waste time reading trashy fiction.

Educate yourself. There are a lot of things going on in the US that look like The Handmaid's Tale.

And there are a ton of threads on UK politics and issues. This one is about the US, and Trump. We don't have to be perfect before we can criticise you or your President either. That's not how it works.

We don't have federal troops descending on a city to "tackle violent crime" (and imposing curfews) when all the statistics say there has been a massive reduction in crime. We don't have universities being defunded because they aren't following the party political line. We don't have vaccine research being halted because there's an anti vaxxer put in charge. We don't have our defence run by someone who shares a video saying women should not have the right to vote not to mention the whole WhatsApp disaster. We don't have people in masks and plain clothes grabbing people of the street and bundling them into unmarked cars (how are people supposed to know if it is legit?). We don't have press being barred from access because they don't toe the party line...

Why do I care? Because what happens in the USA has repercussions around the world and instability there ends up affecting us all.

May I ask… what did you think of Johnson? Or Truss?

"Diet and exercise cost nothing." Save that argument for the police when you're caught shoplifting groceries.

He’s the most incompetent and worthless PM of your entire life?!

Are you two years old?!

What a bonkers statement. I don’t like a lot about Starmer but that is utterly insane.

'Educate yoursel' does not mean people are going to agree with you just because you tell them they have too and it seems a little dictatorial in itself

Communism?

Its not communism. It's facism.

Like Trump is doing?

This is the biggest problem on mn. People who deem themselves all for free speech and inclusive, yet cannot handle another's point of view without coming out with the epithets , the < are you on glue > brigade and such things.

The writer of The Handmaid’s Tale has pointed out similarities between Trump’s America and the Handmaid’s Tale. Yet people here are arguing there aren’t.

There are comments on this thread that genuinely frighten me. I worry about people. We’re headed for darker times