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To think that the USA is a dictatorship now?

462 replies

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 20:24

Trump appears to have ultimate power. Who can challenge him? Who controls him? Presidents should not be dictating what drug companies charge for medicines on a whim, or indeed any other goods, at the drop of a hat. He says jump and the US says "How High?" What on earth have you done to yourselves and the world to let this evil, thick, orange toddler clown represent you? What the hell were you thinking?

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Sausagenbacon · 15/08/2025 21:54

It's the Reform racist fuckwits who are trying to divide the country, fomenting hatred, and the Brexit that they wanted, and the last government who were corrupt and incompetent. The reasonable and rational majority must rise up and fight the minority extremists.

Well that sounds sane

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 21:55

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 21:53

Have you listened to yourself frothing at the mouth? And you’re trying to convince people you’re reasonable and rational? It’s perfectly obvious you’re neither.

Have you listened to yourself attacking the man not the ball? You are obviously unable to engage in debate.

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TinyIsMyNewt · 15/08/2025 21:55

xanthomelana · 15/08/2025 21:37

No we just let our 12 year olds get raped by grooming gangs then cover it up. We are no better.

Exactly!

Donald may not be perfect, but at least the child he allegedly raped was 13 - much better!

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 21:55

Sausagenbacon · 15/08/2025 21:54

It's the Reform racist fuckwits who are trying to divide the country, fomenting hatred, and the Brexit that they wanted, and the last government who were corrupt and incompetent. The reasonable and rational majority must rise up and fight the minority extremists.

Well that sounds sane

😂😂😂😂

NeuroSpicyCat · 15/08/2025 21:56

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 21:00

Why do people throw around words like dictatorship and fascism these days without the slightest idea what they mean? It’s so tedious. Have they ever opened a history book?

Because they are now priced out of their weight loss drugs and their false sense of entitlement has backfired. Toys out of pram.

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 21:56

Sausagenbacon · 15/08/2025 21:54

It's the Reform racist fuckwits who are trying to divide the country, fomenting hatred, and the Brexit that they wanted, and the last government who were corrupt and incompetent. The reasonable and rational majority must rise up and fight the minority extremists.

Well that sounds sane

Who do you think are attacking refugee hostels? The Women's Institute?

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Timelineuk · 15/08/2025 21:58

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 21:51

It's the Reform racist fuckwits who are trying to divide the country, fomenting hatred, and the Brexit that they wanted, and the last government who were corrupt and incompetent. The reasonable and rational majority must rise up and fight the minority extremists.

I’m with you. Watch it will turn out for them. The turn on each other eventually when they realize Farage isn the answer.

Bathingforest · 15/08/2025 21:59

it is not forever and he is not really a dictator
many people like him , many don't
are the UK better off and in what way

TinyIsMyNewt · 15/08/2025 22:01

I mean, he definitely tried to overthrow the 2020 election, and this time out he has stacked the government with Trump loyalists.

It is really very easy to imagine him refusing to leave office in 2028, unless his base turn on him over the Epstein stuff.

Bathingforest · 15/08/2025 22:01

I have 100s of American fb friends, great large estates, doing what they want on them, home educating, private schools, foreign or local holidays, what dictator is allowing all this variety of private life and property....and free speech, yes, haha

Ethina · 15/08/2025 22:01

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 21:26

Exactly. There seem to be no checks and balances in the US now. Trump has a brainfart and suddenly it's enacted. Where are the debates, discussion and challenges in the US system? He just seems to be able to do whatever he feels like, on a whim, and people bow down to him and put into place what he asked for.

The constitution hasn’t been changed or what did I miss, what checks and balances have been removed

amillionandone · 15/08/2025 22:02

LOL. Someone's been drinking freely of the kool-aid (or something rather stronger), I see.

businessflop25 · 15/08/2025 22:02

xanthomelana · 15/08/2025 21:45

Sounds very much like Starmer. We have a divided country and many people can’t stand him either. We really shouldn’t be throwing stones at any other country at the moment.

I’m no fan of Starmer but he isn’t in the same league as Trump. Divisions in this country are by far more caused by the idiot Farage and his right wing muppets.
People in the UK are fed up with politics after over a decade of incompetence and greed of the Tory government. Starmer has been a big disappointment yea but so is the shitshow inherited from the last decade.
The US however is on a downward slippery slope far more dangerous than where we are currently at here

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 22:02

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 21:56

Who do you think are attacking refugee hostels? The Women's Institute?

So tiresome, this type. No reasoning or debate to be had. So utterly convinced of their own superiority, full of self-righteousness, self satisfied and smug. And then when they see the supposed ‘far right’ emerging it’s surprised pikachu faces all round and wondering how it could have happened. Because leftists are incapable of discussion or accepting others have different views from their own.

So tolerant of all the characteristics that don’t actually matter and utterly intolerant of the one that does - diversity of thought. It’s why the left always ends up eating itself and degenerating into a purity spiral.

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 22:02

NeuroSpicyCat · 15/08/2025 21:56

Because they are now priced out of their weight loss drugs and their false sense of entitlement has backfired. Toys out of pram.

I'm not denying that there are legions of massively overweight people in the US who are far more in need of mounjaro than me. But it's not the fault of everyone else in the world that it costs them too much. Years of voting for right wing laissez faire goverments enacting end stage captalism writ large and socialism being practically a swear word is the problem in the US. That's why your drugs cost too much.

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spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 22:04

businessflop25 · 15/08/2025 22:02

I’m no fan of Starmer but he isn’t in the same league as Trump. Divisions in this country are by far more caused by the idiot Farage and his right wing muppets.
People in the UK are fed up with politics after over a decade of incompetence and greed of the Tory government. Starmer has been a big disappointment yea but so is the shitshow inherited from the last decade.
The US however is on a downward slippery slope far more dangerous than where we are currently at here

Quite.

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lkjhgfdsa · 15/08/2025 22:04

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 21:56

Who do you think are attacking refugee hostels? The Women's Institute?

Well duh, it's the people who are concerned about women and children's safety obviously. Or maybe it was just thugs? If only there were some clues...

"Two out of every five people arrested after participating in last summer’s riots had been previously reported to the police for domestic abuse, the Guardian can disclose."

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jul/26/two-in-five-arrested-for-last-summers-uk-riots-had-been-reported-for-domestic-abuse?CMP=ShareAndroidAppOther

Two in five arrested for last summer’s UK riots had been reported for domestic abuse

Police data indicates overlaps between public violent disorder and domestic violence and abuse

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jul/26/two-in-five-arrested-for-last-summers-uk-riots-had-been-reported-for-domestic-abuse?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 22:04

lkjhgfdsa · 15/08/2025 22:04

Well duh, it's the people who are concerned about women and children's safety obviously. Or maybe it was just thugs? If only there were some clues...

"Two out of every five people arrested after participating in last summer’s riots had been previously reported to the police for domestic abuse, the Guardian can disclose."

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jul/26/two-in-five-arrested-for-last-summers-uk-riots-had-been-reported-for-domestic-abuse?CMP=ShareAndroidAppOther

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Exactly.

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Namechangedagain999 · 15/08/2025 22:06

spoonbillstretford · 15/08/2025 21:53

Probably not. He'll cancel elections next.

Yes himself and putin have a lot in common. Goodness knows what monetary benefit he has negotiated for himself these few days.

Bathingforest · 15/08/2025 22:06

VaseofViolets · 15/08/2025 21:00

Why do people throw around words like dictatorship and fascism these days without the slightest idea what they mean? It’s so tedious. Have they ever opened a history book?

many on here have not

pointythings · 15/08/2025 22:06

It's not a dictatorship yet, but it absolutely is descending into authoritarianism. Let's see if the midterms happen, then we'll talk.

Sausagenbacon · 15/08/2025 22:07

Because leftists are incapable of discussion or accepting others have different views from their own
Spot on. It appears often on MN. 'Disagree with me and you're fascist, Reform, racist' etc etc
And it's always from the Left

businessflop25 · 15/08/2025 22:07

Timelineuk · 15/08/2025 21:58

I’m with you. Watch it will turn out for them. The turn on each other eventually when they realize Farage isn the answer.

You would have thought they would have worked it out by now. Farage’s only achievement in life is brexit and that didn’t exactly go to plan did it. 🙄

Bathingforest · 15/08/2025 22:09

SamPM · 15/08/2025 21:22

I live in the US and its not a dictatorship. Many of us are quite happy with Trump. The UK elected Starmer who is the most incompetent and worthless PM in my lifetime. You should be worrying more about your loss of freedom of speech and civil liberties, the two-tier justice system you have, the crumbling NHS and the overwhelming increase in crime rate and unfettered illegal immigration. I no longer recognize the UK when I go back and definitely do not feel safe. But yes, by all means, have a superior smug dig at Trump and those that voted for him.

absolutely
it takes a foreign living here to see it as it is