About Gender neutral loo

[paulhollywoodshairgel]

I was in a museum today and my daughter (15) left me to go to the loo. She then waved me over.. she said to me.. I’d rather not use the gender neutral loo. I said that’s fine and sent her down a level to the ladies. A woman the approached me and preceded to tell me off for not encouraging my daughter to use the GN loo. How she has a trans child and how are they ever going to feel accepted with people like me around. I’m ND and I always second guess myself 10000 times a day. I wasn’t in the wrong was I?? I just said ok go and use the other separate loo. Surely my child can pee wherever she feels comfortable??!! I hate conflict so I just said ok and walked off!

I think we have a Nicola Sturgeon & Isla Bryson moment coming …..

Let’s get that quiet part out loud.

@CohensDiamondTeeth

How do think you a trans women who hasn't had surgery gets in and out of a swimsuit in a open plan changing room without someone seeing their penis? Magic?

Trans women who haven't had surgery use private cubicles.

They do not get their cock and balls out in front of people in the female changers.

"It never happens"!.. Bingo ball "It never happens".

Rules of misogyny:

There’s a much referenced list which circulates in women’s groups: created by Rose, a second-wave feminist known by the internet username ‘TheBewilderness’, it is called the Rules of Misogyny and details all the underhand techniques used to silence, attack or shame women. The rules run as follows:

1. Women are responsible for what men do.
2. Women saying no to men is a hate crime.
3. Women speaking for themselves are exclusionary and selfish.
4. Women’s opinions are violence against men, thus male violence against women is justified.
5. Women and Feminism must be useful to men or they are worthless.
6. Women who go around being female AT men by menstruating and breastfeeding babies deserve punishment.
7. Women should always be grateful to men for everything.
8. Men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are.
9. Men always know the “real reasons” for everything women do and say.

10. The worst thing about male violence is that it makes men look bad. 11. Whatever women suffer from, it is worse when it happens to men. 12. Women’s ability to recognize male behaviour patterns is misandry. 13. Angry women are crazy. Angry men have trouble expressing themselves. 14. Women have all the rights they need: The right to remain silent. 15. Men are the default human. Women are strange subhuman others. 16. Everyone owns and controls women’s bodies except the women themselves.

and

It never happens.
If it did happen, it wasn't that bad.
If it was that bad, you deserved it.

I think we have a lawsuit moment coming Tandora has just labelled an innocent trans swimmer a rapist.

Oh dear!

So Tandora has never had to see a man’s penis that she didn’t welcome. So that’s all done and dusted then.

Seconded!

I see your attempts to disguise raging transphobia as feminism. It does not wash.

So Tandora has never had to see a man’s penis that she didn’t welcome

Another false claim.

And also a disgustingly personal one.

That’s what you said sunshine.

What are you talking about ?

You mentioned Isla Bryson who is a rapist.

Even the AGP ones? Or do they not count as trans? In which case do we have Tandora permission to ask them to get the fuck out of the female changing room?

As the study you post clearly notes there are limitations
One very clear one, amongst others but not noted as a limitation, within the study but glaringly obvious is those questioned did not have to provide proof. ie police reports. They simply had to state their feelings on whether they were harassed etc
Its also clear that by consistently using the term cis this is a biased study

Anything on police reports and convictions in comparison to male violence against women then.
ie Actual facts with a breakdown of level of harm. I’d assume rape and physical violence is far worse than hurting someone’s feelings for example

Oh no I didn't.

I can on the other hand point you in the direction of the Wiispa incident and Lia Thomas.

Oh sorry I just saw you said Lia Thomas. That is my mistake.

So when has Lia Thomas got her "cock and balls" out in a female changing room exactly? I can't see any evidence of this?

You can't vouch for that and you know it.

What if they do?

They don't. It doesn't happen. The idea that this is a thing that we need to legislated to prevent is nothing but a transphobic fantasy.

You clearly haven't read anything that his female team mates have said then

Please post your sources.

Google riley gaines for a start

They are only female, their account of events doesn't count

THis is what I got when I googled riley gaines Lia thomas.

https://19thnews.org/2025/02/riley-gaines-trans-sports-debate/

Try googling something she has said rather than what others say about her

It really is quite the corker!

I love a bit of sunlight on AIBU.