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Do childless couples have better sex lives?

195 replies

cjfrh1985 · 09/08/2025 11:18

…..because the woman’s body doesn’t change (assuming she doesn’t gain weight, and obviously ageing happens)?

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cjfrh1985 · 11/08/2025 22:07

Crushed23 · 10/08/2025 13:35

Great answer.

OP, I’m also on the fence about having a baby (although leaning more and more towards having one now that I’m in a stable relationship) and honestly I’m terrified of what it will do to my body. I know that’s incredibly shallow, but I am an exercise fanatic and love being skinny and toned. It’s such a huge part of my identity and a major source of self-confidence (again, so shallow…). The thought of losing that due to birth injuries, being too busy/tired to maintain my exercise regime, suffering from PND etc. is really worrying. I hope I can get over it somehow.

I will say that MN skews VERY negative r.e. having babies, so I must remember not to base the decision on what I read on here.

I feel exactly the same as you. I'm very into health and fitness and I wouldn't feel like me if my body changed too much. I don't go to the gym, but I run and eat healthily. I don't think carrying extra weight would suit my frame at all.

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whitewineandsun · 11/08/2025 22:07

Bodypumpmum · 11/08/2025 21:58

For me its the double chin that came from nowhere. Its not just the body that is impacted Op. so is your face.

Yeah, where the hell does it come from? Baffling. Sigh.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 11/08/2025 22:11

I would assume that they do.
Not because of body changes, more roaming children, especially young teenagers, lack of privacy.
My body hasn't changed much.
My 16 daughter doesn't sleep well, she has no friends outside school, she never leaves the house unless she is with a parent, we live in a small terrace house, if you pass wind she will wake up.

Screamingabdabz · 11/08/2025 22:20

Luckyingame · 10/08/2025 15:41

For myself, I have a happy marriage (for 20 years), sex life, preserved body, freedom and no financial problems.
So child free couples are better off in everything, obviously if both decide for this situation. 👍

Except for the existential joy and happiness that children (and eventually grandchildren) can bring…

cjfrh1985 · 11/08/2025 22:21

KawasakiBabe · 10/08/2025 22:58

I’m 58, through the menopause and although my sex life isn’t quite what it was when I was in my 20’s, it is pretty close. And it is it is far from over. That sweeping generalisation is just not true. I’ve always found since I first had sex when I was 18, the more I have it, the more I want it. If I don’t let it dwindle and I insist on it being good, then I can keep up the momentum, lol

At 58, does your husband/partner not have some ED issues though? No man in his 50s can be the same as in his 30s....

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cjfrh1985 · 11/08/2025 22:27

whitewineandsun · 11/08/2025 22:07

Yeah, where the hell does it come from? Baffling. Sigh.

Is this a thing, your face changing during pregnancy? Does it stay like that after birth?

I think maybe a puffy face could be due to water retention during pregnancy, although I'm no medical expert....

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cjfrh1985 · 11/08/2025 22:28

ExitViaGiftShop · 10/08/2025 15:31

OP, define ‘better’?
OP, why are you asking this?

Better = more passionate, more frequent (or as frequent as both partners would like)

Why = curiosity. Not sure if I want children or not.

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cjfrh1985 · 11/08/2025 22:32

EmeraldShamrock000 · 11/08/2025 22:11

I would assume that they do.
Not because of body changes, more roaming children, especially young teenagers, lack of privacy.
My body hasn't changed much.
My 16 daughter doesn't sleep well, she has no friends outside school, she never leaves the house unless she is with a parent, we live in a small terrace house, if you pass wind she will wake up.

16 year old daughter, or did you mean to write 6 year old?

Some teenagers don't have many friends. The stereotype is that they're all out socialising all the time and never see their parents, and while that's true for many, it isn't everyone.

I wasn't out all the time as a teenager. I hated my comprehensive school and a lot of the people in it (bullies...).

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Bodypumpmum · 11/08/2025 22:37

cjfrh1985 · 11/08/2025 22:27

Is this a thing, your face changing during pregnancy? Does it stay like that after birth?

I think maybe a puffy face could be due to water retention during pregnancy, although I'm no medical expert....

Yep. The hormones sadly drain your face. Mine feels more lax now, and iv got more wrinkles. Its permenant.

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 11/08/2025 22:38

cjfrh1985 · 11/08/2025 21:44

Maybe not noticeably by 40, but into your 50s surely?

It's a fact that hormones decrease as we age, men (however fit and healthy) experience ED at least some of the time and women have peri and menopause symptoms...

One of DP's peri-menopause symptoms is that her sex drive has gone through the roof. We've been having more sex in the last year than at any point other than our first few months together. So I wouldn't count on that putting a dampener on things.

cjfrh1985 · 11/08/2025 22:57

Bodypumpmum · 11/08/2025 22:37

Yep. The hormones sadly drain your face. Mine feels more lax now, and iv got more wrinkles. Its permenant.

Are you sure that's directly related to pregnancy and birth though?

Maybe childbearing does cause ageing or cause us to age faster....

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EmeraldShamrock000 · 11/08/2025 23:51

cjfrh1985 · 11/08/2025 22:32

16 year old daughter, or did you mean to write 6 year old?

Some teenagers don't have many friends. The stereotype is that they're all out socialising all the time and never see their parents, and while that's true for many, it isn't everyone.

I wasn't out all the time as a teenager. I hated my comprehensive school and a lot of the people in it (bullies...).

16 year old.

Plus a 10 year old. 10 sleeps well, yes, teenagers are in your face more than toddlers.

Ignore tbe negatives around body changes.

If you are going to gain a middle aged spread, it'll happen baby or not.

I have friends who are a size 8 with DC and child-free friends that are a size 20.

Babies don't change your body a lot, if you're into fitness then you will bounce back.

I bounced back both times without much effort.

Plenty of men suffer from the spread without any pregnancy, women can blame it on pregnancy.

Your face won't change from pregnancy, it'll change with time, baby or not.

None of my friends have small babies/toddlers, we're all mid 40's, some are running 5k on a Saturday morning, other pals are eating a fry up, nursing a hangover, depending on their lifestyles.

Nothing to do with having DC

whitewineandsun · 12/08/2025 09:10

Your face won't change from pregnancy, it'll change with time, baby or not.

Can confirm. I don't have children. I just hit the late 40s...

JHound · 12/08/2025 13:31

cjfrh1985 · 11/08/2025 21:59

My OP was not supposed to be misognistic, it isn't about women's bodies per se. Or men's for that matter.

You literally just made it about women’s bodies.

Bodypumpmum · 12/08/2025 15:48

cjfrh1985 · 11/08/2025 22:57

Are you sure that's directly related to pregnancy and birth though?

Maybe childbearing does cause ageing or cause us to age faster....

Sorry late reply.
my jaw was snatched before my baby. I gained 30lbs and it really did take a toll on my chin and jawline. I actually think i might try skin tightening as nothing else helping. Pregnancy caused it.

Mydadsbirthday · 12/08/2025 16:03

There is so much crap on this thread and men posting trying to disguise themselves as women. Piss off, we can see through it.

KawasakiBabe · 12/08/2025 16:15

cjfrh1985 · 11/08/2025 22:21

At 58, does your husband/partner not have some ED issues though? No man in his 50s can be the same as in his 30s....

He is younger than me but does have some issues. He takes pills and after some trial and error, has found some that really suit him. However, that wouldn’t be different whether we’d had children or not.

cjfrh1985 · 12/08/2025 18:41

KawasakiBabe · 12/08/2025 16:15

He is younger than me but does have some issues. He takes pills and after some trial and error, has found some that really suit him. However, that wouldn’t be different whether we’d had children or not.

Thanks for being honest. Most women are honest about vaginal changes that come with menopause, but there seems to be lots of men on the internet saying, 'oh I have no issues at 55", and "same as when I was 30", which I struggle to believe!

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cjfrh1985 · 12/08/2025 18:43

Mydadsbirthday · 12/08/2025 16:03

There is so much crap on this thread and men posting trying to disguise themselves as women. Piss off, we can see through it.

Which posts? And what makes you think that?

Some women are very weight/body conscious, independently of what men think. Just because a post says that they were worried about pregnancy changing their body, it doesn't mean it's a man in disguise.

It isn't internalised misogyny to want to be a certain size, in my opinion.

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Bikergran · 12/08/2025 19:29

Yes, but body shape, etc, has nothing to do with it. It's more to do with the fact that you're either both too knackered to fancy DTD, or that your children (of whatever age) have an unerring instinct to interrupt at a crucial moment!!!!

KawasakiBabe · 12/08/2025 22:23

cjfrh1985 · 12/08/2025 18:41

Thanks for being honest. Most women are honest about vaginal changes that come with menopause, but there seems to be lots of men on the internet saying, 'oh I have no issues at 55", and "same as when I was 30", which I struggle to believe!

I think men using pills is mocked by both men and women, I’ve seen it in here when women talk about older men being too useless to date and often say “they need pills”. I think ‘so what’, if they work, they work and if it means DH and I have a good sex life, then I think they’re fantastic. I just see them like I’d see HRT (obviously to a degree!), nothing to be ashamed of.

cjfrh1985 · 14/08/2025 18:54

KawasakiBabe · 12/08/2025 22:23

I think men using pills is mocked by both men and women, I’ve seen it in here when women talk about older men being too useless to date and often say “they need pills”. I think ‘so what’, if they work, they work and if it means DH and I have a good sex life, then I think they’re fantastic. I just see them like I’d see HRT (obviously to a degree!), nothing to be ashamed of.

Yes neither anything to be ashamed of. I do sometimes wonder why if a man feels horny he couldn’t get it up naturally, but then I don’t know what it’s like for men…

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KawasakiBabe · 14/08/2025 19:39

cjfrh1985 · 14/08/2025 18:54

Yes neither anything to be ashamed of. I do sometimes wonder why if a man feels horny he couldn’t get it up naturally, but then I don’t know what it’s like for men…

It’s not getting it hard, it is maintaining the erection. My DH overthinks, as much as ge tells himself it’s not going to happen, it does. Self fulfilling prophecy!

SkylarFalls · 14/08/2025 19:49

cjfrh1985 · 12/08/2025 18:41

Thanks for being honest. Most women are honest about vaginal changes that come with menopause, but there seems to be lots of men on the internet saying, 'oh I have no issues at 55", and "same as when I was 30", which I struggle to believe!

And that's not even a flex

Sleeping with a 55year old man is different to sleeping with a 30 year old

For body change reasons: meds, fitness, ED whatever else it might be

But also for good reasons, as sex should evolve as you mature

A 50 year old acting like a 20 year old in bed is 🤮 and no 50 year old woman wants that crap

cjfrh1985 · 15/08/2025 00:21

KawasakiBabe · 14/08/2025 19:39

It’s not getting it hard, it is maintaining the erection. My DH overthinks, as much as ge tells himself it’s not going to happen, it does. Self fulfilling prophecy!

Don't lots of men 50 and over struggle to get an erection in the first place though?

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