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Do childless couples have better sex lives?

195 replies

cjfrh1985 · 09/08/2025 11:18

…..because the woman’s body doesn’t change (assuming she doesn’t gain weight, and obviously ageing happens)?

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Whatapileofshit · 10/08/2025 14:43

Justchilling07 · 10/08/2025 13:41

How do you know, the poster you responded to is 60
or any other childless women on here are.Anyone can be on MN, it’s actually not just for women who have children, sorry if this further angers you, there’s no criteria, because it’s anonymous!
Their comment wasn’t misogynistic, you were being aggressive, completely over the top.
Posters are just giving their view, it’s not aimed at you personally as a way to make you feel not good enough.
Now you’re calling this poster creepy and delusional! Only because they said their figure hasn’t changed!
Honestly, you just need to calm down!

Who said she was 60 or implied it? She's 41 and it's in the post you replied to!

Crushed23 · 10/08/2025 14:57

Whatapileofshit · 10/08/2025 12:21

Are you bragging that you have weekly sex at a time that most people are home and available for sex? I'm confused. I'm also confused that anyone has the exact body shape as when they were 18 and isn't 19.

Don’t be ridiculous. I’m 35 and have the same body shape as I did in my late teens. Probably more toned actually, but certainly the same size. Why on earth wouldn’t a woman look the same at 40 as she did at 18 if she hasn’t had kids and hasn’t hit peri prematurely? For those of us into exercise, maintaining a stable weight is as normal as maintaining healthy gums.

Theswiveleyeballsinthesky · 10/08/2025 15:03

Crushed23 · 10/08/2025 14:57

Don’t be ridiculous. I’m 35 and have the same body shape as I did in my late teens. Probably more toned actually, but certainly the same size. Why on earth wouldn’t a woman look the same at 40 as she did at 18 if she hasn’t had kids and hasn’t hit peri prematurely? For those of us into exercise, maintaining a stable weight is as normal as maintaining healthy gums.

at 35 I didn't diet and exercise but found it easy to maintain my body because I was only 35. A few days of not eating and I easily dropped a few pounds when needed. Once I hit my 40s much much harder.

Justchilling07 · 10/08/2025 15:27

Whatapileofshit · 10/08/2025 12:57

I couldn't possibly tell you what it was like to be a childless 60 year old woman. And that's why I never will.

But as a 40 something year old woman with teenagers who had a decade of sex before I had children I can speak about both sides. So yes, I do find it offensive when people come on to a site that is "making parents lives easier" to talk about how women's bodies are some how not good enough for good sex because they had children and to make up wild comments like they can't have sex at 2pm on a Sunday.

Yes, it touched a fucking nerve, because it's ridiculous and offensive. It's misogynistic and it's at best, delusional and creepy with regarding her still having a teenage body.

@Whatapileofshit you said 60 year old not just implied it🙄Yes if you want to split hairs, you were having yet another dig, 60 year old childless women, you actually said.
This really is getting tedious, can’t be bothered, every single comment of yours is aggressive.
Just sad, that you’re using this forum to get all your pent up anger out, I won’t be responding, reading anymore of your comments.

ExitViaGiftShop · 10/08/2025 15:31

OP, define ‘better’?
OP, why are you asking this?

Crushed23 · 10/08/2025 15:36

Theswiveleyeballsinthesky · 10/08/2025 15:03

at 35 I didn't diet and exercise but found it easy to maintain my body because I was only 35. A few days of not eating and I easily dropped a few pounds when needed. Once I hit my 40s much much harder.

I don’t disagree with any of that. Similarly I have to watch what I eat now to maintain my weight whereas in my late teens and 20s I ate what I want. Metabolism changes, but it doesn’t mean weight can’t stay stable.

Luckyingame · 10/08/2025 15:41

For myself, I have a happy marriage (for 20 years), sex life, preserved body, freedom and no financial problems.
So child free couples are better off in everything, obviously if both decide for this situation. 👍

ginasevern · 10/08/2025 16:01

@cjfrh1985 "Not goady, no. I’m just a stage where I’m thinking about how children can affect a relationship. I don’t have kids yet, not sure I want them."

To answer this part of your question, it's a resounding yes! Of course kids affect a relationship. How can it possibly stay the same when you introduce another human being into the mix. As for sex - given an even playing field (no medical issues, a "normal" sex drive on both sides and a solid marriage) then childfree sex is of course going to be better. You're not constantly knackered for a start, you're not worried about night feeds, you're not worried your kids will walk in on you/hear you and you aren't stressed up to your eye balls trying to work and be a parent. Actually, I'd say that a childfree life (unless being a mother is the most important thing in your life) is better all round.

SkylarFalls · 10/08/2025 16:02

TheIceBear · 10/08/2025 13:46

Not all women get stretch marks in pregnancy

I got stretch marks in puberty but not from pregnancy

TheIceBear · 10/08/2025 16:26

SkylarFalls · 10/08/2025 16:02

I got stretch marks in puberty but not from pregnancy

Same here I expected them when I was pregnant because I got them in puberty but got none whatsoever and neither did my sister.

YouSadMisogynisticWanker · 10/08/2025 16:43

God forbid that a woman's body changes. She might piss off a man somewhere.

vincettenoir · 10/08/2025 17:46

TheIceBear · 10/08/2025 16:26

Same here I expected them when I was pregnant because I got them in puberty but got none whatsoever and neither did my sister.

Me too. If I had known I’d have been using the bio oil and moisturisers as a 12 year old and wouldn’t have bothered when pregnant.

Justchilling07 · 10/08/2025 18:06

YouSadMisogynisticWanker · 10/08/2025 16:43

God forbid that a woman's body changes. She might piss off a man somewhere.

Hmm and women, going by the really angry comments on here.How very dare, women, say her figure hasn’t changed as they’ve got older, to other women who have had children! 😬

KawasakiBabe · 10/08/2025 22:58

I’m 58, through the menopause and although my sex life isn’t quite what it was when I was in my 20’s, it is pretty close. And it is it is far from over. That sweeping generalisation is just not true. I’ve always found since I first had sex when I was 18, the more I have it, the more I want it. If I don’t let it dwindle and I insist on it being good, then I can keep up the momentum, lol

cjfrh1985 · 11/08/2025 21:39

ToKittyornottoKitty · 10/08/2025 12:16

Are you male or female?

I'm female, and I was worried about how pregnancy might change my body (what if I can't lose the weight, and my DH doesn't fancy me anymore?)

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cjfrh1985 · 11/08/2025 21:41

PuttingOnTheKitsch · 10/08/2025 12:20

In your twenties, but have 1985 in your username? Interesting.

Just be honest with the woman you're with and say:

"I don't want to have children. I'm trying to convince you to think the same so I've gone on Mumsnet for proof that having children makes your sex life crap. This is because I am such a red hot lover, I'm certain the thought of less sex with me will override any desire you might have for children"

Problem solved.

I'm a woman, and 1985 is just a series of numbers I chose in making up a nonsense username.

I'm not totally decided that I don't want children, and I wouldn't be upset if I had stretch marks afterwards. I would still like to look and feel like me though, i.e. have more or less the same body I had before.

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cjfrh1985 · 11/08/2025 21:44

KPPlumbing · 10/08/2025 12:21

I dont think "sex drive declines with age for everyone" is true.

Maybe not noticeably by 40, but into your 50s surely?

It's a fact that hormones decrease as we age, men (however fit and healthy) experience ED at least some of the time and women have peri and menopause symptoms...

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cjfrh1985 · 11/08/2025 21:47

FortheloveofCheesus · 10/08/2025 12:26

Men change too. Their testosterone levels can fall as they age, plenty of older men have a much lower sex drive, whether they have kids or not, and their bodies change! Both men and women lose muscle mass as they age and tend towards a paunch. Most men eventually lose some hair or even quite a lot. Lots of men get saggier chests etc.

This is all true, pretty much all men in their 50s (no matter how fit, active and young looking they are or think they are) are not the same in bed as they were at 20/30, they all experience ED to some extent.

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Definitelymaybenoyes · 11/08/2025 21:51

I think it's good that you're considering these things... However, if you're this concerned about your looks then perhaps children isn't for you?

They're all consuming - like others say, it's the tiredness, not the body that takes a toll on the sex life. I
You may bounce back like I did, but there's no way in hell you'll ever "feel" like your current version of you. When you become a mother, you completely lose your identity and create a new one.

I love my husband despite our changing bodies, we don't have much sex, no. We grab it when we can but on the whole we're too consumed by our beautiful small children.

I suppose it's what's important to you, and it's completely valid to rate sex highly... I used to, I don't now. If you're adaptable - go for it!

cjfrh1985 · 11/08/2025 21:55

JHound · 10/08/2025 12:52

Also why is a sex life all about a woman’s body?

I am childless and don’t have sex (haven’t in years) so take that as you will (I also have a very different body at 44 than 24).

Edited

It isn't, it's about both partners finding each other attractive, and if they're in a relationship, also caring/loving each other.

But we all know that over time people's appearances can change, and sometimes one partner won't fancy their other half anymore.

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whitewineandsun · 11/08/2025 21:56

cinquanta · 10/08/2025 13:05

Think again. For some of us it hasn’t got any less frequent.

This. I'm late 40s and am having more and better sex now than when I was in my 20s.

Bodypumpmum · 11/08/2025 21:58

For me its the double chin that came from nowhere. Its not just the body that is impacted Op. so is your face.

cjfrh1985 · 11/08/2025 21:59

JHound · 10/08/2025 13:03

It’s just bonkers how somebody can bring such a massively misogynist post to Mumsnet. I would think “AskMen” on Reddit is a better fit….

My OP was not supposed to be misognistic, it isn't about women's bodies per se. Or men's for that matter.

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fthisfthatfeverything · 11/08/2025 22:00

No, Same if not better for us.
I’ve looked after myself tho.
kept slim and wear make up- nice clothes etc
most likely from vinted 🤪
but I do try

Bringmeahigherlove · 11/08/2025 22:02

cjfrh1985 · 11/08/2025 21:39

I'm female, and I was worried about how pregnancy might change my body (what if I can't lose the weight, and my DH doesn't fancy me anymore?)

I refuse to believe this is real.