Do childless couples have better sex lives?

[cjfrh1985]

…..because the woman’s body doesn’t change (assuming she doesn’t gain weight, and obviously ageing happens)?

If they have toddlers and they don't nap you're correct, but if they don't, I assure you've they've had sex on Sunday afternoons. Babies sleep and kids disappear on video games. Sorry, maybe stick to the child free section instead of talking shit about what clearly have no clue on a parenting site?

Of course a vagina changes, after having a vaginal birth.Pelvic floor exercises are important, if you don’t do them after childbirth, then you are going to be looser, not all women do these, for different reasons, some women get torn vaginally, have a really difficult birth.Having children can cause gynaecological problems, which will affect a woman’s libido.

yep, I think younger women need to know the shocks of peri meno that lie ahead.
Clitoral and Vaginal atrophy are a huge unexpected shock of peri and totally destroy any enjoyable sex life.

I assume so, because usually childless couples are young and in their prime? After children there’s surely less opportunity for date nights or spontaneous intimacy. Some people do feel their body changes after children, but beyond that I think the longer people are in a relationship their appearance starts to slip - weight gain for both men and women for example.

I dont think any lack of sex is because you have a "bad vagina" or got fat...although a small % do have birth injuries.

id say feneral consensus is its because you are exhausted from years of unbroken sleep and You also micro piss each other off about 20 times a day 😅😅😅

You have increased househld work and management and also the financial strain which does make some people anxious too

Bingo!

Mine wasn't better but it was more frequent. We were decades younger than we are now though and I imagine that is the main reason.

Its better because it's more about intimacy and sensation, less performative, but again that's just maturing. And would have happened without kids.

These are disorders of childbirth though

Talking about them as an inevitability serves nobody

Vaginal birth didn't ruin or break me, it doesn't have to

And if it did, something has gone WRONG, and same as a sports injury it should be treated, not treated as some sort of lifelong before/after threshold!

Don't normalise birth INJURY. It's common but not normal

It's like saying running marathons ruins your sex life, because if you injure yourself, that's you on the scrap heap forever after.

And kids go to school all day in terms time!

You're not stuck with a clingy infant on your hip all day for long unless you have one after another after another

“The woman’s body doesn’t change”…

The levels of misogyny in this.

Dear God.

And you could never have one after another because sex is impossible after the first one😂

That's why they all had such small families pre birth control pills!

Wow, that clearly hit a nerve! Another poster saying their figure is still the same as when they were 19 and they have a good sex life, due to not having children, they have more time and somehow that’s made you angry! It’s not your place to tell someone on here, they’re talking shit, they don’t understand and to go onto a child free section of MN!!
The whole point of the thread, is, do childless couples have a better sex life, so don’t get why, you have responded to another poster, in such an aggressive way.

MN let any old shit stay up these days. It's genuinely disgusting, but oh well.

Also why is a sex life all about a woman’s body?

I am childless and don’t have sex (haven’t in years) so take that as you will (I also have a very different body at 44 than 24).

Making the mistake of taking on a major renovation fixer upper at one point put the breaks on our sex life for a while also

Staying up till after midnight to work on the bloody house after work, exhausted from doing that every evening and getting up for work in between, and being up ladders all weekend, spraining our backs and wrists over and over in the process, is only sexy in 80s movie montages

Really no different in terms of sex life than the pause a new baby can cause. And probably between us caused MORE lasting injuries and aches and pains! And more minor arguments too

But without the WILD pregnancy hormone sex

I'm sorry but you're wrong. Not all injuries can be fixed.

I couldn't possibly tell you what it was like to be a childless 60 year old woman. And that's why I never will.

But as a 40 something year old woman with teenagers who had a decade of sex before I had children I can speak about both sides. So yes, I do find it offensive when people come on to a site that is "making parents lives easier" to talk about how women's bodies are some how not good enough for good sex because they had children and to make up wild comments like they can't have sex at 2pm on a Sunday.

Yes, it touched a fucking nerve, because it's ridiculous and offensive. It's misogynistic and it's at best, delusional and creepy with regarding her still having a teenage body.

Gross.

Because it's not about what you enjoy, it's about what he's looking at, apparently. Men's bodies are naturally perfect and unchanging.

Vaginas can change but for many reasons.

Mine has changed and I have exactly 0 kids.

This is a very good point about men's bodies. Underneath all the sniggering about Viagra is the fact that men's bodies and sex drive changes too. That's why the intimacy, as mentioned by a previous poster, is so important too.

There is this weird myth that not having children = staying 20 years old forever. That's not true. You will still age and you will still have the issues that aging and those around you aging will bring.

It’s just bonkers how somebody can bring such a massively misogynist post to Mumsnet. I would think “AskMen” on Reddit is a better fit….

No they can't, but there is non curative rehab and recovery care required in those cases.

They should not just be labelled as "broken" end of

Same as not all injuries sustained in a marathon are fully recoverable

But these are birth INJURIES

Not the natural inevitable consequences of a vulva and vagina pre and post it's first childbirth

Think again. For some of us it hasn’t got any less frequent.

If the sex were that good, it wouldn't all be ONS my friend. You/they would want to go there twice.

Not necessarily.