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Do childless couples have better sex lives?

195 replies

cjfrh1985 · 09/08/2025 11:18

…..because the woman’s body doesn’t change (assuming she doesn’t gain weight, and obviously ageing happens)?

OP posts:
SkylarFalls · 10/08/2025 13:42

CommissarySushi · 10/08/2025 13:36

I disagree. Birth injuries happen, they're normal and sometimes there is nothing you can do to prevent it.

I think it's a disservice to lie to women about the possible effects of child birth. Women should be fully informed.

As I said up thread, being left injured IS common but it's not normal.

That's not a suggestion to hide or not talk about the risks but you're not hearing what I'm saying at all so we will leave it there. I'm sorry you suffered an injury.

bumbaloo · 10/08/2025 13:42

personally the biggest change to my body and sexuality and vaginal health came with the menopause, not childbirth.
Statistically women who have had children go through the menopause a little later than those who haven’t.

so on that basis the menopause related changed and related issues will come later for those who have had dc

Praying4Peace · 10/08/2025 13:43

GreenBookshelves · 10/08/2025 13:31

What a ridiculous assumption that couples with children are “more tired”. There are other things in life that can be tiring, not just having children in the home. And, if MN is to be believed, you all have 6-figure salaries for working 2 hours a day and employ nannies and cleaners and have time to post on here all day.

I'd hazard a guess that you aren't a parent.
Fwiw, having a nanny wasn't an option for me, as it wasn't /isn't for many others

Theswiveleyeballsinthesky · 10/08/2025 13:43

Yes all childless women like me are slim svelte fresh eyed goddesses at it like rabbits constantly - or you know, maybe not!

the menopause hits us all whether we've had children or not. Being childless didn't stop vaginal atrophy hitting like a freight train & entirely derailing my sex life

NewBlueNoteBook · 10/08/2025 13:46

cjfrh1985 · 10/08/2025 11:26

Not goady, no. I’m just a stage where I’m thinking about how children can affect a relationship. I don’t have kids yet, not sure I want them.

The effect on your relationship with your husband is little to do with your post partum shape. It’s mostly about lack of sleep, lack of time, equal distribution of responsibilities, and prioritisation of your relationship as partners not just parents.

In my experience people who had a really great relationship pre children carry on having a really great relationship after children.

If there are cracks in the relationship or if one person is selfish, irresponsible or particularly needy then parenthood will exacerbate all those things.

TheIceBear · 10/08/2025 13:46

cjfrh1985 · 10/08/2025 12:09

Yeah, I know quite a few women who went back to the gym after babies and kept their old figure (with stretch marks of course, but those are nothing to be ashamed of).

There’s also the fact that menopause changes all women’s bodies, and sex drive declines with age for everyone anyway.

Not all women get stretch marks in pregnancy

Justchilling07 · 10/08/2025 13:47

JHound · 10/08/2025 13:24

Yep - I don’t get people getting angry at people sharing their truth and the truth of others around them.

I recall having this discussion with friends who (don’t want to get into context) who essentially said the reason I was not experiencing something they were was due to me not having kids and the exchanges they experienced to their vaiginas post birth (no “injuries” just changes). I don’t think it’s bad for people to share their experience.

Completely agree.

Bodypumpmum · 10/08/2025 13:51

No, children dont ruin your sex life. Its up to a couple to keep things fresh, and put in the effort. You absolutely can have sex with children next door its called being quiet. Im as horny as ever after 2kids.

I always make time for sex even if its a quick one. Take care of your mind and body.

KPPlumbing · 10/08/2025 13:53

I think there's a big disparity between those with kids and careers, and those with kids who don't work in paid employment. My parent friends all work and are exhausted trying to keep so many plates spinning.

heroinechic · 10/08/2025 13:56

I have a 2 year old and a 12 week old. My body doesn’t look any different (I was overweight & had stretch marks before, still the case now). My nipples are slightly darker atm because I’m breastfeeding.

Pre-kids we had sex every day, post kids it’s around 3-4 times a week. It hasn’t ruined our sex life, we still have great sex, just a bit less of it.

We don’t have less sex because of my body. I’d say we have less sex because we’re more tired.

I pushed two babies out - my DH struggled to fit before and still struggles now. Perhaps if I was with someone less well endowed any ‘changes’ would be more obvious!

TheWorminLabyrinth · 10/08/2025 13:59

Whatapileofshit · 10/08/2025 12:27

If they have toddlers and they don't nap you're correct, but if they don't, I assure you've they've had sex on Sunday afternoons. Babies sleep and kids disappear on video games. Sorry, maybe stick to the child free section instead of talking shit about what clearly have no clue on a parenting site?

Completely unnecessary and nasty. It's hardly a stretch to assume that parents of young kids should be parenting and supervising them rather than upstairs shagging.

CommissarySushi · 10/08/2025 13:59

SkylarFalls · 10/08/2025 13:42

As I said up thread, being left injured IS common but it's not normal.

That's not a suggestion to hide or not talk about the risks but you're not hearing what I'm saying at all so we will leave it there. I'm sorry you suffered an injury.

I am hearing what you're saying, but calling it common, and not normal, doesn't actually change the reality for women with birth injuries.

Crushed23 · 10/08/2025 13:59

KPPlumbing · 10/08/2025 13:53

I think there's a big disparity between those with kids and careers, and those with kids who don't work in paid employment. My parent friends all work and are exhausted trying to keep so many plates spinning.

In what seems like most of the threads on the relationships board about marriage troubles post kids, the woman doesn’t work or is very part time. When one person‘s life stays the same (usually the man’s) and the other person’s is turned upside down, resentment builds. And nothing, er, dries you up more than seething resentment.

Early3Rise · 10/08/2025 14:02

Yes due to time/space constraints and sheer exhaustion

Other than a 10cm red line where I had my c sections my body hasn't changed due to pregnancy

SkylarFalls · 10/08/2025 14:08

NewBlueNoteBook · 10/08/2025 13:46

The effect on your relationship with your husband is little to do with your post partum shape. It’s mostly about lack of sleep, lack of time, equal distribution of responsibilities, and prioritisation of your relationship as partners not just parents.

In my experience people who had a really great relationship pre children carry on having a really great relationship after children.

If there are cracks in the relationship or if one person is selfish, irresponsible or particularly needy then parenthood will exacerbate all those things.

Agree

It'll have the same affect on your relationship that any major life change will have

Bereavement, house move, illness, injury, big financial loss or gain...

Unless he only sees you as a hole to plough.

SkylarFalls · 10/08/2025 14:10

CommissarySushi · 10/08/2025 13:59

I am hearing what you're saying, but calling it common, and not normal, doesn't actually change the reality for women with birth injuries.

I'm sorry but it actually does, in terms of how they are treated if they seek rehab, recovery or symptoms control healthcare.

It's a whole thing in women's health and the language does actually affect outcomes.

Justchilling07 · 10/08/2025 14:10

SkylarFalls · 10/08/2025 12:45

These are disorders of childbirth though

Talking about them as an inevitability serves nobody

Vaginal birth didn't ruin or break me, it doesn't have to

And if it did, something has gone WRONG, and same as a sports injury it should be treated, not treated as some sort of lifelong before/after threshold!

Don't normalise birth INJURY. It's common but not normal

It's like saying running marathons ruins your sex life, because if you injure yourself, that's you on the scrap heap forever after.

This is an open discussion, l can give my view, if that’s ok with you.
I’m not normalising birth injury! You’ve just said it’s common, but not normal! I don’t think women who have children are on the scrap heap!! Are you just trying to twist things, you’re saying things that l haven’t said.
Why are some posters on here being so defensive, angry.It’s so unnecessary, taking your frustration out on other posters.

Livpool · 10/08/2025 14:11

We both 45 and have 1 child - our sex life has ebbed and flowed during our relationship for sure.

But I wfh full time and DH 2 days a week so sex on lunchtime when DS is in school is fun! We’ve had less during the summer holidays 😂😂

SkylarFalls · 10/08/2025 14:12

TheWorminLabyrinth · 10/08/2025 13:59

Completely unnecessary and nasty. It's hardly a stretch to assume that parents of young kids should be parenting and supervising them rather than upstairs shagging.

But kids are only at that supervise at all times stage for such a short time!

Having a kid doesn't mean having a YOUNG kid for long.

It only feels it at the time, but it's a tiny % of the parenting years really

scoobysnaxx · 10/08/2025 14:18

Thelnebriati · 09/08/2025 11:48

Its not just the woman's body that changes with age; dangling balls can be a real passion killer.

Ugly little things aren’t they 😂

TheWorminLabyrinth · 10/08/2025 14:24

SkylarFalls · 10/08/2025 14:12

But kids are only at that supervise at all times stage for such a short time!

Having a kid doesn't mean having a YOUNG kid for long.

It only feels it at the time, but it's a tiny % of the parenting years really

Not sure why this "explanation" was needed? I was responding to that particularly aggressive poster, not asking how long kids need supervision for....

Blueyrocks · 10/08/2025 14:29

I have 3 kids, with DH who I've been with since I was 20 and him 23. I'm the same weight as then - BMI 18 - and much more toned as I started exercising for my sanity when I had kids! And our sex life is better than ever, as I've become more body-confident with age. It's better and more frequent. No idea how my vagina compares from when I was 20, funny enough my DH isn't noncy so I don't think he thinks about that, any more than I think - how does this shape up compared with 15years ago - when I'm enjoying his penis. Having kids really showed me who he was, and I find it insanely attractive to have married such a generous, kind, hardworking man. He's just so manly. Oh, my - I'm getting a bit flustered.

Justchilling07 · 10/08/2025 14:35

SkylarFalls · 10/08/2025 14:12

But kids are only at that supervise at all times stage for such a short time!

Having a kid doesn't mean having a YOUNG kid for long.

It only feels it at the time, but it's a tiny % of the parenting years really

The comment being referred to, is unnecessary and nasty.Why are you being so defensive!?

Justchilling07 · 10/08/2025 14:42

TheWorminLabyrinth · 10/08/2025 14:24

Not sure why this "explanation" was needed? I was responding to that particularly aggressive poster, not asking how long kids need supervision for....

Exactly.
That 'explanation’ wasn’t needed, completely irrelevant, just patronising!

Jumpingthruhoops · 10/08/2025 14:43

MoFadaCromulent · 09/08/2025 11:55

More sleep
More disposable income
Skinnier wife
More spontaneity

So yeah

This! DH and I's is currently better than in it was in our 20s! Ironically since I stopped The Pill - never really wanted it when I was on that.
Just condoms now and, when I ovulate, I'm particularly horny as hell. Add to that no kids - so body still the same and we can do it whenever, loud as ever and wherever we like!
So the short answer is YES!

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