To think that white British/ American etcmen are just as much a threat to women as migrants?

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I am not excusing grooming, paedophile sex rings and unmonitored immigration at all but I hate all these protests.
I know that my white male ex teacher is a sex offender. Not to mention the Epstein scandal.
Aibu to think that ALL men are a danger to women...not just men of different ethnicities/ religions etc?

Muslims?

I’m not wary of all Muslims, but I am absolutely wary of the effects of Islam on women, the West, and frankly the world. You would have to be insane not to be - we have 40,000 people in the UK alone on the terrorism watch list. Our biggest threat is Islamism. But yep, let’s allow tens of thousands of unvetted men from high risk countries to join us, we would be silly not to be fine with it.

Thought so.

Yeah, plus the rape and torture of thousands (potentially hundreds of thousands) of British girls. The cousin marriage, the total refusal to integrate. Anyone still insisting that this has been a success is utterly deluded and thankfully its nearing the stage where it can be dealt with at the ballot box.

So you want all Muslims kicked out of the country?

Do you have a breakdown of the ideologies of those 40,000?

Not all. But a good amount of remigration is going to be needed, yes.

I can't find a breakdown of the 40,000 figure quoted by pp. But this is what MI5's site says. Italics are mine.

MI5 is responsible for investigating all forms of terrorist threat to the UK. Primarily, this stems from Islamist terrorism, extreme right-wing terrorism, Northern Ireland-related terrorism and, to a lesser degree in terms of volume, left-wing, anarchist or single-issue terrorism.

Islamist terrorism is the most significant terrorist threat to the UK by volume.

Islamist terrorists are generally driven by an extreme interpretation of Islam or perceived grievances against ‘the West’, particularly those propagated by terrorist groups such as Daesh (also referred to as ISIL, ISIS or the Islamic State) or al-Qaeda.

Much of the volume of the threat is from individuals who have self-radicalised, seeking to carry out attacks using unsophisticated or low-sophistication methodologies. Generally, individuals will decide themselves to conduct an attack, rather than the attack being directed or controlled by a terrorist group. This can make it harder to identify terrorist activity.

There also remains an enduring threat from overseas terrorist groups which seek to inspire, support or enable attacks and which retain an intent to conduct sophisticated attacks.

The extreme right wing terrorism landscape has evolved away from structured groups towards a more diffuse threat where individuals form loose networks, often online. The ideologies and grievance narratives are varied, wide-ranging and often overlapping. They can encompass elements of cultural nationalism, white nationalism, and white supremacism and are often fuelled by conspiracy theories.

Extreme right-wing influencers operating globally online seek to fuel grievances and amplify conspiracy theories.

Much of the volume of the threat is from self-radicalised terrorists seeking to conduct low-sophistication attacks. Generally, individuals will decide themselves to conduct an attack, rather than the attack being directed by a terrorist group. This can make it harder to identify terrorist activity.

Islamic extremism accounts for 75% of MI5's counter-terrorism case load and Muslims are the majority of people in prison for offences linked to extremism. They're 18% of the UK prison population but only 6% of the overall population.

Remigration? How would that work?

Aware of that, I googled too and found those figures about caseload.

But I wondered if there was a breakdown of the 40k figure (which I think is from 2020?).

The greatest volume of threat is Islamic terrorism, as set out in my pp. But it would be interesting to see the actual figures if they are available.

Its not my job is it. My job is to vote for which ever party commits to the strongest measures to sort this mess out.

Me too. Financial/services type decisions can always be changed, but this can’t - once we have admitted somebody to the country, given them residence and they’ve had a few kids, it’s impossible to go back on.

Remigration is a far right concept where non whites are sent back to their 'place of ancestry'.

It would involve programmes where people are rounded up and deported. You seem to be suggesting that the UK has far right remigration programmes where Muslims are deported.

I'm asking you how that would work. For example, you need permission from a country in order to send people there.

Let's say you want Muslims sent to Somalia, Somalia needs to agree to take them. Secondly, if you're focusing on refugees and asylum seekers, under the law they can't be sent to somewhere where they're in danger.

There are approximately 4m Muslims in the UK, do you envisage huge deportation centres where they're all herded while they wait to be deported?

You're in favour of remigration as well? Colour me surprised.

Remigration is too extreme for Reform, it's Lowe, Robinson and their far right buddies territory.

It is wise to read up about it.

Indeed

It just goes to show how the language of the far right is becoming insidious if it's on a parenting forum.

Absolutely this.

As MI5 puts it

"Extreme right-wing influencers operating globally online seek to fuel grievances and amplify conspiracy theories"

Apparently we have some Identitarians in our midst.

I brought this up earlier in the thread but despite all the evidence, apparently it's not happening.

As MI5 put it, ‘the biggest threat to the UK is Islamism’

Yeah it’s happening. It’s nowhere near the threat of Islamism though.

Well you would say that, wouldn't you.