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To think that white British/ American etcmen are just as much a threat to women as migrants?

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malificent7 · 08/08/2025 12:47

I am not excusing grooming, paedophile sex rings and unmonitored immigration at all but I hate all these protests.
I know that my white male ex teacher is a sex offender. Not to mention the Epstein scandal.
Aibu to think that ALL men are a danger to women...not just men of different ethnicities/ religions etc?

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MiloMinderbinder925 · 11/08/2025 14:53

TheNuthatch · 11/08/2025 14:41

I have no idea which article you are referring to. Whoever wrote it, I haven't read it.

Labour are also trying to source a third country for processing etc. That won't work as it will be very quickly overwhelmed imo, but they are trying to offshore migrants. It was in Labour's manifesto. Perhaps they should have tried Rwanda first as so much taxpayer £ had already been spent?

The Rwanda scheme was found to be illegal due to the principle of non refoulement. You can see more here:
https://gardencourtchambers.co.uk/rwanda-judgment-supreme-court-unanimously-rules-rwanda-policy-is-unlawful/

If Starmer finds a third country, it needs to be within the law. For example, holding people indefinitely is a breach of the law.

Rwanda Judgment: Supreme Court unanimously rules Rwanda policy is unlawful | Garden Court Chambers

Sonali Naik KC, Adrian Berry, Mark Symes, Eva Doerr and Isaac Ricca-Richardson, of Garden Court Chambers, represent AS (Iran). David Sellwood, of Garden Court Chambers, is part of the team representing RM (Iran).

https://gardencourtchambers.co.uk/rwanda-judgment-supreme-court-unanimously-rules-rwanda-policy-is-unlawful/

TopPocketFind · 11/08/2025 15:24

Rwanda wasn't set up as an offshore processing location.

Refugees would have been sent there to claim asylum in Rwanda without being allowed back in the UK

MuckFusk · 11/08/2025 18:51

Fetaface · 11/08/2025 10:48

They know because the world over men are supported when they rape. Every country is the same. Men know that they can get away with it everywhere hence why it is so common. Rapists the world over falsely accuse their victims, that is nothing new.

Afghanistan males would likely be mentioned due to the current report of two men who were arrested for this crime. Yes most people will be vague as most countries do have rape laws but sadly almost all rape laws the world over support the perpetrator and not the victim.

We have places like France where consent doesn't even feature in their rape laws and in the USA there are some rape laws that mean that if she says no then he can rape with the backing of the law if he doesn't include violence.

So the world over supports rapists - not just the countries where there are brown skinned perpetrators. It is where there are penises.

Here we have virtually 0 chance of getting rapists brought to justice. Even if you film it or he confesses, he will be let off.

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Rape is ubiquitous everywhere on the planet, so more people from other countries isn't the problem, the problem is letting in more people who are male. Increasing the % of the male population will obviously lead to more rape, as well as to an increase in other violent crimes.

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 11/08/2025 18:55

MiloMinderbinder925 · 11/08/2025 11:35

Don't be silly. You know the difference between basic needs and all your needs.

I don’t consider my comment as “silly” explain what other “needs” we should be providing?

We can’t even cover the basic needs for our own popu

MuckFusk · 11/08/2025 18:56

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 11/08/2025 11:42

As a matter of interest how can we make sure that we drastically cut down the numbers coming here. It’s clear this is not sustainable. Financially, socially or culturally.

so what do people suggest we do?

I think there has to be more international cooperation where countries who aren't getting as big of an influx would agree to take some of the refugees. There needs to be a G7 summit where agreements can be hammered out.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 11/08/2025 18:57

MiloMinderbinder925 · 11/08/2025 11:26

Unfortunately it's not that simple as they're claiming asylum. We have the principle of non refoulement which means that people can't be sent back to countries where they're in danger. Unless we have an authoritarian government that overrides the courts, we have to act within the law. We also need agreements with countries to send people there.

That’s unfortunate. Why are we bothered about their human rights if they’ve raped for example? They should have forfeited any right to stay here once they committed the crime. Why should we be in danger from them but be forced to let them stay?

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 11/08/2025 18:59

MuckFusk · 11/08/2025 18:56

I think there has to be more international cooperation where countries who aren't getting as big of an influx would agree to take some of the refugees. There needs to be a G7 summit where agreements can be hammered out.

Like where? What do they get in return? How do we educate those coming here that they must abide by our laws, customs, language, culture and values. How can we ensure full integration

MiloMinderbinder925 · 11/08/2025 19:06

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 11/08/2025 18:55

I don’t consider my comment as “silly” explain what other “needs” we should be providing?

We can’t even cover the basic needs for our own popu

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Apologies, I assume a certain level of understanding of English.

Basic needs are requirements for human survival. For example, food, water, shelter, medical attention.

Having all your needs met would include for example, a car, good job, stability, loving family, support network, tech, holidays.

I hope that explains things for you. Basic = necessities for survival or the bare minimum.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 11/08/2025 19:13

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 11/08/2025 18:57

That’s unfortunate. Why are we bothered about their human rights if they’ve raped for example? They should have forfeited any right to stay here once they committed the crime. Why should we be in danger from them but be forced to let them stay?

Unfortunately for those who don't care about human rights is that the UK sees itself as a civilised society that adheres to certain fundamental values. One of those values is the principle that human rights apply equally to everyone.

MuckFusk · 11/08/2025 20:23

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 11/08/2025 18:59

Like where? What do they get in return? How do we educate those coming here that they must abide by our laws, customs, language, culture and values. How can we ensure full integration

You mean which countries? Other G7 nations which haven't had the same level of inundation of refugees. I'm in Canada and we have plenty of space to take more refugees. Unfortunately, we're in an economic war with the US right now so we probably couldn't afford it at present. But once Trump is gone we should do our part and take some refugees for our UK friends. So should the rest of the Commonwealth. We do take in a lot of refugees, but we could do more. Europe shouldn't have to shoulder this burden alone. The US should help too, but fat chance of that happening with Trump in office and so much of the population being virulently racist.
I think integration happens naturally over time, that is if the native population cooperates in making it clear that certain behaviour, which may have been tolerated in the old country, will not be tolerated in the new one. It's not something you can teach in a class or learn from a lecture, it has to be learned through personal experience.

EasternStandard · 12/08/2025 07:26

MiloMinderbinder925 · 11/08/2025 14:53

The Rwanda scheme was found to be illegal due to the principle of non refoulement. You can see more here:
https://gardencourtchambers.co.uk/rwanda-judgment-supreme-court-unanimously-rules-rwanda-policy-is-unlawful/

If Starmer finds a third country, it needs to be within the law. For example, holding people indefinitely is a breach of the law.

You do know it still could go ahead?

Starmer’s running out of road. He did the you’re not staying social media blitz to emulate a country with an effective policy and everyone relying crossings saw straight through it.

He can’t up the ante from there with rhetoric. There’s no more ‘ground breaking’ or ‘game changing’ stuff to try to sell in.

DonkeylovesWaffles · 12/08/2025 19:54

British men generally hold women in contempt. Especially any woman who does not conform or does not "know her place".

A lot of British men are socially homosexual. They do not like women, many hate women.

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 12/08/2025 20:57

DonkeylovesWaffles · 12/08/2025 19:54

British men generally hold women in contempt. Especially any woman who does not conform or does not "know her place".

A lot of British men are socially homosexual. They do not like women, many hate women.

I don’t think this is true at all. Yes some men are like this but the vast majority of British men I know are respectful to women, enjoy their company, many champion women’s rights. I have many male friends and not a single one is as you describe. I have come across the occasional one- but they’re not my friend

DonkeylovesWaffles · 12/08/2025 21:17

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 12/08/2025 20:57

I don’t think this is true at all. Yes some men are like this but the vast majority of British men I know are respectful to women, enjoy their company, many champion women’s rights. I have many male friends and not a single one is as you describe. I have come across the occasional one- but they’re not my friend

I respectfully disagree. Many British men are not as nice to women than a lot of other nationalities are.

I do have male friends who are respectful and kind, these sorts I believe are in the minority.

Fetaface · 12/08/2025 22:24

MuckFusk · 11/08/2025 18:51

Rape is ubiquitous everywhere on the planet, so more people from other countries isn't the problem, the problem is letting in more people who are male. Increasing the % of the male population will obviously lead to more rape, as well as to an increase in other violent crimes.

So we need to stop all male visitors and all male immigration - legal or illegal because more males = more rapes.

More rapists = more rapes.

Less punishments = more rapes.

More support for rapists = more rapes.

More victim blaming = more rapes.

Less support for victims = more rapes.

More turning a blind eye to sex crimes = more rapes.

All of the above we do as a country - we actively encourage rape as a society by supporting the perpetrators and not the victim. Rape is increasing not only because more rapists are coming into the country but how we treat rapists and victims is enabling more rape.

So your plan would be to stop the boat people but let all other rapists in and continue to support rapists and ignoring victims. Great plan!

MiloMinderbinder925 · 13/08/2025 10:18

I believe James McMurdock and George Cottrell are heading Reform's next conference on VAWAG as they're quite experienced.

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