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To think that white British/ American etcmen are just as much a threat to women as migrants?

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malificent7 · 08/08/2025 12:47

I am not excusing grooming, paedophile sex rings and unmonitored immigration at all but I hate all these protests.
I know that my white male ex teacher is a sex offender. Not to mention the Epstein scandal.
Aibu to think that ALL men are a danger to women...not just men of different ethnicities/ religions etc?

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MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/08/2025 10:24

SpaceRaccoon · 10/08/2025 10:12

No, Reform and the far right are stirring up trouble. That isn't evidence that asylum seekers are routinely attacking thousands of women.

Do you have any views on the stats I posted that indicate that cerrtain nationalities do in fact have a far greater propensity towards sexual offenses?

I haven't seen your statistics. However sexual assault statistics aren't necessarily accurate.

Women are more likely to be attacked by someone they know (85%) and over half of survivors don't report the assault. Stranger assault is more likely to be reported and prosecuted than a partner, where there's very little proof.

Stranger assault is rare and it sounds like you're judging whole swathes of people as sexual predators because of where they're born.

TopPocketFind · 10/08/2025 10:25

JamesMacGill · 10/08/2025 10:24

Apart from nobody is saying that.

What are you saying then?

Who is welcome and who is not?

Somerford · 10/08/2025 10:26

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/08/2025 10:11

No, Reform and the far right are stirring up trouble. That isn't evidence that asylum seekers are routinely attacking thousands of women.

People can see what's happening in their towns. They don't particularly want to wait for thousands of women and children to be raped in order to satisfy your insatiable desire for statistics.

Actually without going back through the thread, weren't you originally actually arguing that ethnicity and/or nationality of sex offenders shouldn't be recorded? Apologies if I've mixed you up with somebody else but I don't think I have.

Anyway, local to me in the space of a few days:

A migrant sexually assaulted several women in the street in broad day light

A migrant attempted to abduct a 10 year old girl from a park, prevented by the girl's father

A migrant arrested in a park for following and filming children

That's in the space of a few days.

JamesMacGill · 10/08/2025 10:27

TopPocketFind · 10/08/2025 10:25

What are you saying then?

Who is welcome and who is not?

Men from terrifyingly misogynistic cultures are not welcome as far as I’m concerned. The women and children are as they need to escape them.

SpaceRaccoon · 10/08/2025 10:27

I haven't seen your statistics. However sexual assault statistics aren't necessarily accurate.

I've posted them on this page if you scroll up.

Also how to you relate the lack of supposed accuracy to what happened in Cologne, a mass event that was widely witnessed? Why weren't men from all backgrounds equally assaulting that night?

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/08/2025 10:28

JamesMacGill · 10/08/2025 10:08

Oh wow it’s amazing how a tiny minority have such a hold over the completely resistant majority isn’t it? To the extent their own equipped army we spent ££££ ran like cowards away from them?

Yes, that's what happens when an occupying army leaves state of the art equipment which is captured by the
Taliban.

In fact Trump negotiated with the Taliban before pulling the Americans out and released 5k Taliban prisoners.

When your country is government by terrorists and extremists who have very powerful weapons, you don't stand much of a chance.

SpaceRaccoon · 10/08/2025 10:29

In fact Trump negotiated with the Taliban before pulling the Americans out and released 5k Taliban prisoners.

You know that was Biden, right?

TopPocketFind · 10/08/2025 10:31

Family reunion increases the share of female refugees in the UK

Most asylum seekers are men (76% of adult applicants from 2014 to 2024). Young male refugees who receive asylum often go on to be joined by their female partners through refugee family reunion. From 2014 to 2024, 82% of adults receiving refugee family reunion visas were women. As a result, after accounting for family reunion, the gender balance of those granted protection becomes more even over time. Taken together, women made up 35% of adults granted asylum-related status or refugee family reunion between 2014 and 2024 (Table 2), while men made up 65%. Note that these figures exclude asylum applicants who are initially refused but are successful on appeal, as the immigration statistics do not include a gender breakdown for this group.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migration-to-the-uk-asylum/

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/08/2025 10:32

SpaceRaccoon · 10/08/2025 10:27

I haven't seen your statistics. However sexual assault statistics aren't necessarily accurate.

I've posted them on this page if you scroll up.

Also how to you relate the lack of supposed accuracy to what happened in Cologne, a mass event that was widely witnessed? Why weren't men from all backgrounds equally assaulting that night?

What lack of supposed accuracy? If you don't believe that sexual assault is vastly underreported there's plenty of information online regarding this.

What happened in Cologne was stranger attacks and widely witnessed. I'm sure men of all backgrounds were assaulting that night. I doubt there was a consensus for men to stop attacking women so Cologne attacks could take place.

TopPocketFind · 10/08/2025 10:32

Somerford · 10/08/2025 10:26

People can see what's happening in their towns. They don't particularly want to wait for thousands of women and children to be raped in order to satisfy your insatiable desire for statistics.

Actually without going back through the thread, weren't you originally actually arguing that ethnicity and/or nationality of sex offenders shouldn't be recorded? Apologies if I've mixed you up with somebody else but I don't think I have.

Anyway, local to me in the space of a few days:

A migrant sexually assaulted several women in the street in broad day light

A migrant attempted to abduct a 10 year old girl from a park, prevented by the girl's father

A migrant arrested in a park for following and filming children

That's in the space of a few days.

Do you know the difference between migrants and asylum seekers?

JamesMacGill · 10/08/2025 10:33

TopPocketFind · 10/08/2025 10:31

Family reunion increases the share of female refugees in the UK

Most asylum seekers are men (76% of adult applicants from 2014 to 2024). Young male refugees who receive asylum often go on to be joined by their female partners through refugee family reunion. From 2014 to 2024, 82% of adults receiving refugee family reunion visas were women. As a result, after accounting for family reunion, the gender balance of those granted protection becomes more even over time. Taken together, women made up 35% of adults granted asylum-related status or refugee family reunion between 2014 and 2024 (Table 2), while men made up 65%. Note that these figures exclude asylum applicants who are initially refused but are successful on appeal, as the immigration statistics do not include a gender breakdown for this group.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migration-to-the-uk-asylum/

If they can leave the woman and children behind, their situation is not dangerous enough to warrant asylum. It just isn’t. We can’t take everyone from any country where the government is anything less than completely democratic

EasternStandard · 10/08/2025 10:34

TopPocketFind · 10/08/2025 10:24

But then they worry about being deleted.

Better to skirt around the issue

We need a better system. One that designed better for women and girls.

TopPocketFind · 10/08/2025 10:34

JamesMacGill · 10/08/2025 10:33

If they can leave the woman and children behind, their situation is not dangerous enough to warrant asylum. It just isn’t. We can’t take everyone from any country where the government is anything less than completely democratic

You really need to engage your brain.

They are granted asylum so their situation was dangerous.

We are not taking everyone either.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/08/2025 10:35

SpaceRaccoon · 10/08/2025 10:29

In fact Trump negotiated with the Taliban before pulling the Americans out and released 5k Taliban prisoners.

You know that was Biden, right?

The Trump administration in February 2020 negotiated a withdrawal agreement with the Taliban that excluded the Afghan government, freed 5,000 imprisoned Taliban soldiers and set a date certain of May 1, 2021, for the final withdrawal.
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/

Timeline of U.S. Withdrawal from Afghanistan - FactCheck.org

We lay out many of the key diplomatic decisions, military actions, presidential pronouncements and expert assessments of the withdrawal agreement that ended the U.S. military's 20-year war in Afghanistan.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/

TopPocketFind · 10/08/2025 10:35

EasternStandard · 10/08/2025 10:34

We need a better system. One that designed better for women and girls.

What kind of system would that be?

Safe and legal routes like we manage with Ukraine and Hong Kong?

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/08/2025 10:37

JamesMacGill · 10/08/2025 10:33

If they can leave the woman and children behind, their situation is not dangerous enough to warrant asylum. It just isn’t. We can’t take everyone from any country where the government is anything less than completely democratic

What would you know about individual asylum claims and how much danger that person is in?

TheAmusedQuail · 10/08/2025 10:39

White men more so. They're just better at hiding their threat.

We've all been touched, had threats, unwanted sexual activity etc. And I bet for the vast majority of us, that's come from white men.

The man we're most in danger from is our husband (NOT that all husbands are dangerous, but statistically). And given the UK is majority white, the man we're most in threat and danger from is white.

User32459 · 10/08/2025 10:40

Lifeofthepartay · 09/08/2025 12:57

I think the outrage at the moment in the UK is that the legal defense of some migrants that have commited sex crimes, is that "they didn't know it was not allowed here" and that "there are cultural differences that prevented the perpetrators from understanding their behaviour was unacceptable" which is absolute bollocks.

They should go to a middle eastern country and try that defence.

In liberal Britain though some judge is likely to accept it.

JamesMacGill · 10/08/2025 10:41

TheAmusedQuail · 10/08/2025 10:39

White men more so. They're just better at hiding their threat.

We've all been touched, had threats, unwanted sexual activity etc. And I bet for the vast majority of us, that's come from white men.

The man we're most in danger from is our husband (NOT that all husbands are dangerous, but statistically). And given the UK is majority white, the man we're most in threat and danger from is white.

Would that be because most men here are white?

Somerford · 10/08/2025 10:42

TopPocketFind · 10/08/2025 10:32

Do you know the difference between migrants and asylum seekers?

Yes. I don't care whether they're legal or illegal migrants when they're doing the things I described in my earlier post. The distinction doesn’t matter to a father who is fighting off a migrant who is trying to abduct his 10 year old daughter or to a woman who is being sexually assaulted in the street on her way to work in the morning.

SpaceRaccoon · 10/08/2025 10:43

The Trump administration in February 2020 negotiated a withdrawal agreement with the Taliban that excluded the Afghan government, freed 5,000 imprisoned Taliban soldiers and set a date certain of May 1, 2021, for the final withdrawal.

Yes and the actual implementation happened under Biden - it had become his decision:

"The Biden administration's final decision in April 2021 was to begin the withdrawal on 1 May 2021, but the final pull-out of all US troops was delayed until September 2021, triggering the start of the collapse of the ANSF.[9] This collapse led to the Taliban takeover of Kabul on 15 August 2021."

TopPocketFind · 10/08/2025 10:43

Somerford · 10/08/2025 10:42

Yes. I don't care whether they're legal or illegal migrants when they're doing the things I described in my earlier post. The distinction doesn’t matter to a father who is fighting off a migrant who is trying to abduct his 10 year old daughter or to a woman who is being sexually assaulted in the street on her way to work in the morning.

So you are in favour of stopping all immigration? From all countries?

HRTQueen · 10/08/2025 10:48

Of course men of any ethnicity and culture are a danger to girls and women

Groups of young men with nothing do do are always a problem

when you also have in the mix trauma, disregard for authorities, sexist opinions of western women you have issued that can’t be ignored

not everyone risking the crossings have the same need for support in this country

this isn’t just an issue here what is happening across Europe and the kick back from locals and now also governments is showing that this is an issue that governments just can’t seem to manage to control unless they come down extremely hard

im not sue what the solution is but it’s not working now

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/08/2025 10:48

SpaceRaccoon · 10/08/2025 10:43

The Trump administration in February 2020 negotiated a withdrawal agreement with the Taliban that excluded the Afghan government, freed 5,000 imprisoned Taliban soldiers and set a date certain of May 1, 2021, for the final withdrawal.

Yes and the actual implementation happened under Biden - it had become his decision:

"The Biden administration's final decision in April 2021 was to begin the withdrawal on 1 May 2021, but the final pull-out of all US troops was delayed until September 2021, triggering the start of the collapse of the ANSF.[9] This collapse led to the Taliban takeover of Kabul on 15 August 2021."

It was negotiated by Trump, not Biden.

MrsSkylerWhite · 10/08/2025 10:51

JamesMacGill · 10/08/2025 10:33

If they can leave the woman and children behind, their situation is not dangerous enough to warrant asylum. It just isn’t. We can’t take everyone from any country where the government is anything less than completely democratic

Why would people want to flee completely democratic countries?

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