To think that white British/ American etcmen are just as much a threat to women as migrants?

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I am not excusing grooming, paedophile sex rings and unmonitored immigration at all but I hate all these protests.
I know that my white male ex teacher is a sex offender. Not to mention the Epstein scandal.
Aibu to think that ALL men are a danger to women...not just men of different ethnicities/ religions etc?

Yes, many Germans didn't support the Nazis, just like many Afghan men don't support the Taliban.

Maybe open a history book.

@JamesMacGill I'm literally posting things from government statistics agencies, scientific studies, and high profile news events and it's still just la la la not listening. Actually fascinating.

I thought it was common knowledge but it seems not. Women's movements in Afghanistan are severely restricted and men's aren't.

That means that it's virtually impossible for women to leave because they aren't allowed to travel without an escort. They also can't meet men's eyes or talk to them.

Having said that, a lot of women have fled to neighbouring countries but are being sent back. Unfortunately the journey to Europe is dangerous and women are in danger from traffickers and other predators.

Some do make it, we have women and children who have made it here.

Oh wow it’s amazing how a tiny minority have such a hold over the completely resistant majority isn’t it? To the extent their own equipped army we spent ££££ ran like cowards away from them?

I thought it was common knowledge but it seems not. Women's movements in Afghanistan are severely restricted and men's aren't

Women would be able to travel with male relatives, however.

Why do you think that men coming from countries where women are treated appallingly are suddenly going to start respecting women and girls?

So called 'asylum seekers' have assaulted women and girls at a hotel in a town near me. Local women and girls have been followed and assaulted. Why are these men being housed here and not sent back to wherever? We have enough offenders who are born here without importing more!

You seem to be suggesting yet again and with no proof, that there's an institutional cover up regarding asylum seekers.

Let's leave it there.

No, Reform and the far right are stirring up trouble. That isn't evidence that asylum seekers are routinely attacking thousands of women.

Our police have a history of not recording the ethnicity of offenders, even when they record the ethnicity of victims, so we have incomplete data, but countries like the Netherlands and Denmark show that, for example, Afghan men are 22 times more likely to commit sex crimes than their own multi ethnic citizens. This is not really surprising when you consider that they have come from a war zone, war is brutalising, rape has long been a weapon of war and women in Afghanistan have the legal status of chattels. By contrast, men of all ethnicities brought up in liberal and peaceful Denmark and the Netherlands will have been educated to understand that consent is a social, moral and legal prerequisite of those societies. That doesn’t mean all men in those societies are incapable of committing sexual offences. It just makes the risks much lower and makes it safer for women.

No, Reform and the far right are stirring up trouble. That isn't evidence that asylum seekers are routinely attacking thousands of women.

Do you have any views on the stats I posted that indicate that cerrtain nationalities do in fact have a far greater propensity towards sexual offenses?

I know of someone who was victim of rape and the person responsible was a family member.
I remember the art teacher at school who use all opportunity to touch and whisper disgusting sex acts he wanted to do. This was in early 80s and he is probably dead now.
Both British men.
However any man can be a threat and women and girls need to be aware of this.

Cologne is? Or are you going to say you don’t know what Cologne I’m talking about?

The system is problematic. If a person from here wants to get another passport then a full police check is required.

As the pp said the issues are multiple, including societal, the difference in laws and regulation, the lack of checking.

Why is the system we rely on the best for women and children?

She'll probably ask you for evidence that Cologne exists

There is a very strong narrative by certain politicians and sections of the media that black or brown men are significantly more of a threat than white British men, particularly Muslim men, which is simply not true.

We're not 'importing' offenders. That would mean that the government are going to other countries and asking for criminals to come to the UK. That's not happening.

You can't send an asylum seeker back to a country where they could be persecuted or their life is in danger as it's against the law.

I'm talking about asylum seekers in the UK.

They should, who gives a fuck if they’ve raped somebody?

I'm talking about asylum seekers in the UK.

So if they come to the UK instead of, say, Germany or Sweden, they won't offend in the same pattern?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fsOc-w2eV1M&pp=0gcJCf8Ao7VqN5tD

The TRUTH about migrants seeking asylum in the UK, Zoe Gardner
(based on actual government numbers)

If you don't want migrants just say so.
To build a case that every single male is a threat to all females is absurd.

If you don't want migrants just say so.
To build a case that every single male is a threat to all females is absurd.

It was discussed earlier in the thread that well-controlled legal migration solves a lot of these issues, with India as an example.
There's a massive problem with sexual violence in India, but the kind of legal migrants that come to the UK to study or work, don't present a problem. They're obviously vetted for any criminal records, and they're an educated, middle-class demographic.

Jesus wept, I do know what 'importing' means.

To be honest I don't give a shit about what might happen to them, if they commit rape or assault they aren't welcome here. What happens to them in their own country isn't my concern.

ETA before someone feels the need to point it out I am aware we have plenty of home grown rapists etc. but unfortunately we're stuck with them. We don't need to keep the ones who aren't born here.

But then they worry about being deleted.

Better to skirt around the issue

Apart from nobody is saying that.