To think that white British/ American etcmen are just as much a threat to women as migrants?

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I am not excusing grooming, paedophile sex rings and unmonitored immigration at all but I hate all these protests.
I know that my white male ex teacher is a sex offender. Not to mention the Epstein scandal.
Aibu to think that ALL men are a danger to women...not just men of different ethnicities/ religions etc?

Okay I’ll try again. Third times the charm!

I can't bear the hypocrisy and hysteria around migrants. Women and girls are far more likely to be abused or sexually assaulted by a male in their own family, or a male who is known to them, than a random Muslim man.

The way Reform etc whip up hysteria is diabolical. If the Rotherham grooming gangs had been white / non Muslim men, we all know Farage couldn't have cared less. I hate how he uses abuse of girls and women purely for his political agenda - cherry picking certain cases only. He is so disingenuous it's sickening. Why is he not equally outraged when women are raped by white men - ie every hour of every day? Imagine if Epstein had been Muslim, Farage would never shut up about it. But no, Epstein was a white entitled pig of a man, like Farage and his mate Trump, so no comment from Reform.

Someone doesn't like us 🤣

I said an example of number 2 is the grooming gangs scandal.
The report into this specifically stated that reporting ethnicity of perpetrators could have prevented the ‘blind spot’ which caused thousand upon thousands of girls to be raped, unchecked.

How can you claim your point is against VAWG in general, and then consider mentioning grooming gangs to be ‘derailing’

It seems like there is only one type of VAWG you are interested in discussing

Clearly 🤣

Well, we didn't say anything that isn't blindingly obvious to anyone who's following the thread.

Moving back to the topic, which is about VAWAG and asylum seekers, it would be great if you could expand on how the ethnicity of perpetrators protects women and girls. I've asked you this four times now and you haven't answered the question so I can only assume you don't know.

I recall similar accusations and terminology when women were speaking up re single sex spaces. Eg ‘far right’ etc

It would prevent another knowledge ‘black hole’, which was one of the cited reasons the grooming gangs were able to operate for so long - you already dismissed this as ‘derailing’

I know you have trouble following my posts, but at least try

Hysteria 🙄

It’s all very familiar

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I see. What you seem to be saying is that there's an institutional cover up, similar to the grooming gangs, but it involves asylum seekers. Asylum seekers are now grooming children and the police are turning a blind eye. As such we need to know the ethnicity of the asylum seekers (we already know) so that we can stop this. Is this correct?

One of the reasons, so ethnicity by itself would not be enough.

How does it apply to asylum seekers?

I’m saying, unless we have statistics, we don’t know!

I don’t know how much clearer I can be!
We cannot ascertain if they are more of a risk to young girls, unless ethnicity and immigration are recorded.

Stop engaging with what you think I ‘seem’ to be saying, and start engaging with my actual words

It is repeatedly stated asylum seekers are no more of a threat than white men (white British and American men per the OP).

Recording data will help us ascertain if this is true.

So what would the data change re asylum seekers?

I'm attempting to clarify what you're saying. You think that we need statistics on asylum seekers grooming children. We already know the ethnicities of asylum seekers as by nature of being asylum seekers, they're being processed by the HO.

I'd be very interested in your evidence for an asylum seeker paedophile ring. Could you provide a link or article please?

Do you think it helps with the grooming gangs?

Can you just answer the answer how the data will change our approach to asylum seekers?

Asylum seekers raping and sexually assaulting. The rates and if they are higher than the national average.

The grooming gangs were an example of how recording ethnicity is useful in any way shape or form above the statistics we already have.

Do you think it helped/would help with the grooming gangs?