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Friendship problems- AIBU to go even though it will upset her?

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jacks11 · 07/08/2025 23:19

I don’t think I am unreasonable- though accept my(possibly ex-) friend is struggling.

Good friend and her DH have been TTC for some time, several failed rounds if IVF and it looks increasingly like it just us not going to happen. Friend’s DH had agreed one last round IVF but says after this he would like to stop as they just can’t afford it and he feels emotionally it is becoming too much, though if they can conceive naturally (albeit unlikely) he’d be delighted. I, and our other friends, have always been as supportive as we can be and I think I have been a good friend in lots of other ways too. We’ve been friends for a long time.

DH and I have DC, as do most of our other friends. I am pregnant- this was unplanned- but we are happily surprised. We waited until 12 weeks and before we told anyone else (other than our parents). I messaged her to say I had something I wanted to tell her (at a time when she wasn’t at work or anything like that). She immediately messaged back to say “you’re bloody pregnant, aren’t you?”. I replied that I was and that I just wanted to let her know in private before anyone else found out. I genuinely thought this was the easiest way- she would get time to privately react however she felt, without having to put a brave face on/ think about how that would look to others etc. I’m happy to concede she might have preferred a different approach but this was genuinely with good intentions.

She called me a few minutes later and was absolutely horrible- she berated me for not telling her we were ttc. I said that a)if we had been it would not have been something we necessarily had to share with others if we didn’t want to; b) we weren’t exactly TTC, although we are happy about it; c) I would not have thought she would have wanted to know if we had been. She then replied “well, I can’t believe you let that happen” and “ that was f***g stupid of you”, kept going on about how it’s just irresponsible and something only “daft teenagers” do etc. was I really sure this was what I wanted? I said that even if not planned, we are happy about it, and it’s not as though we are in any way going to struggle- financially secure, solid relationship, both in good health etc. I was really taken aback- I expected she might be upset, perhaps want to keep her distance a bit (although I’d have missed her, I’d have understood why) or not want to hear much about my pregnancy. But she was actually utterly vile. I was really upset and appalled by her attitude, told her so and ended the phone-call.

I told my husband who was upset and angry too. We decided to just leave it, let things cool and see where we stood once we’d had time to calm down. I decided not to contact her again, leave the ball in her court regarding the next step.

I told our other friends re pregnancy and they are all delighted for us. DH is friends with her DH- he contacted DH to say he’d heard the news, congratulated him but said he knew his DW and I had “fallen out”. They had a chat and her DH was surprised by what DH told him about what had happened. He was actually quite shaken according to DH. He messaged me to say congratulations and he was sorry for how things went with his DW, she’s just really struggling and he hopes we could work it out. I replied thanking him and that he was not responsible for what his wife had said but appreciated the thought.

I had told two of my closest friends exactly what had happened. Some of our other friends could tell something had happened but I just said that things were strained and not really in contact with her, without giving details. She has been unpleasant about me to a few mutual friends- this has caused friction with them, and most have now sussed out why we aren’t speaking. I have not tried to get anyone to “take sides”. I’ve just carried on, other than not contacting her directly.

We are due to attend our friends wedding- DH is a groomsman. Friend and her DH are also invited. She has demanded that I do not go- DH can, but I can’t. Bride and groom have said we are both invited and if either of us feel we can’t be civil, then it’s best that that person don’t come. I am happy just to be polite and think we should be able to keep our distance. I fully intend to go. I’ve had a lot of messages demanding I “don’t take another thing” from her. I’ve ignored her.

Most of our friends feel she is being totally unreasonable, but two friends have suggested that I “give her this” as she’s struggling. I don’t feel much like putting her first, nor do I think it wise- frankly, if I give in to this it won’t stop at this event, she’ll just try to exclude me from other things. This has caused some friends to fall out and I feel really caught in the middle. AIBU to go?

OP posts:
Mistyglade · 08/08/2025 16:32

SabrinaSt · 08/08/2025 14:01

Having been in the situation of your friend (except with stillbirth followed by recurrent end of first trimester losses), I was so angry and upset and frankly unhinged. I resented other people their happiness. This is very out of character for me.

However, I kept this between myself and DH - there was a period where I really struggled with pregnant friends but I was open with them that I was struggling and if I distanced myself slightly temporarily it wasn’t anything they had done and I wished them well.

You didn’t deserve to be treated this way but it sounds like your friend needs some significant mental health support. I hope she can get the help she needs and she apologises to you in time.

I would go to the wedding and give her a very wide berth but hold your head up high, you have absolutely done nothing wrong.

Edited

This is pretty much what I was going to say. Your friend is very clearly in a world of pain which isn’t rare being unable to conceive. I had multiple MCs and a stillbirth before I had DS who was a high risk baby. In the interim seeing prams everywhere as we’d move to nappy bloody valley and comments of ‘that’s life’ from ex’s smug mates with perfect little families was like a hammer to the heart but we had to suck it up. Clearly you’re suffering from the dreadful things she said which are inexcusable but please don’t drop her out forever. She needs professional guidance and it won’t help if she has no friends to support her in the long term.

Mistyglade · 08/08/2025 16:37

HelplessSoul · 08/08/2025 16:27

Your "friends" infertility issues are not of your making.

She is totally fucking unreasonable.

Enjoy your pregnancy and for your own health and sanity, block her and dont explain why.

She is acting like a spoilt brat. People like that deserve zero attention. Zero.

Christ, your username doesn’t reflect your soul does it.

Helpmeplease2025 · 08/08/2025 16:37

Mistyglade · 08/08/2025 16:32

This is pretty much what I was going to say. Your friend is very clearly in a world of pain which isn’t rare being unable to conceive. I had multiple MCs and a stillbirth before I had DS who was a high risk baby. In the interim seeing prams everywhere as we’d move to nappy bloody valley and comments of ‘that’s life’ from ex’s smug mates with perfect little families was like a hammer to the heart but we had to suck it up. Clearly you’re suffering from the dreadful things she said which are inexcusable but please don’t drop her out forever. She needs professional guidance and it won’t help if she has no friends to support her in the long term.

It’s really not up to OP to help this person if they don’t want to.

Women constantly instructing other women that they must ‘be kind’ is toxic.

Pinkelephantridesagain · 08/08/2025 16:40

I think
Where you went wrong ,was telling her privately
,like it was something she had a right to know ..
she didn't
,you gave her curtosy
,which she took as power
,and behaved As if she had a right to know if you were TTC or accident
None of this is her business
Stop giving a shit about her feelings, because she does not give a shit about yours .
The friends telling you to give her this ,the wedding,are weak and want an easy life .
You owe this woman nothing,
She's not behaving like a friend
The whole world does not stop because she is TTC
She is behaving like this because she can , because this is her personality, because you haven't told her to fuck of yet.
She would not of done this with A stronger personality in the friendship group.
But by contacting her to say you had something to tell her..it showed you were worried of her reaction..,you involved her in your life giving her power .
You will make new friends when your are a mum
Do not give this grasping woman a nother second thought,

HelplessSoul · 08/08/2025 16:40

Mistyglade · 08/08/2025 16:37

Christ, your username doesn’t reflect your soul does it.

Because you know everything about me, dont you?

SMH 🙄🤦‍♂️

Mistyglade · 08/08/2025 16:42

Helpmeplease2025 · 08/08/2025 16:37

It’s really not up to OP to help this person if they don’t want to.

Women constantly instructing other women that they must ‘be kind’ is toxic.

Calling me toxic is pretty disgusting. I’m not instructing anyone to do anything.

Mistyglade · 08/08/2025 16:43

HelplessSoul · 08/08/2025 16:40

Because you know everything about me, dont you?

SMH 🙄🤦‍♂️

Only your username and your opinion.

WickedWitchOfTheEast87 · 08/08/2025 16:44

@jacks11 I had every sympathy for your friend until I read she had berated you, demanded you should have told her you were trying to conceive (that is none of her business) and asking you if you're sure you want to keep it! She's basically implying you should abort your baby so she isn't upset!! That is absolutely nasty your 'friend" is a bitch of the highest order for implying that and I'd have no problem cutting her off and of course you should go to the wedding because if you give in to this she will absolutely expect you to do this everytime.

A reasonable reaction would have been to say she is upset and needs some space and distance for a while but to berate a friend and insinuate they should terminate is out of line she's unhinged if she thinks her behaviour is acceptable.

GreyCarpet · 08/08/2025 16:48

Pinkelephantridesagain · 08/08/2025 16:40

I think
Where you went wrong ,was telling her privately
,like it was something she had a right to know ..
she didn't
,you gave her curtosy
,which she took as power
,and behaved As if she had a right to know if you were TTC or accident
None of this is her business
Stop giving a shit about her feelings, because she does not give a shit about yours .
The friends telling you to give her this ,the wedding,are weak and want an easy life .
You owe this woman nothing,
She's not behaving like a friend
The whole world does not stop because she is TTC
She is behaving like this because she can , because this is her personality, because you haven't told her to fuck of yet.
She would not of done this with A stronger personality in the friendship group.
But by contacting her to say you had something to tell her..it showed you were worried of her reaction..,you involved her in your life giving her power .
You will make new friends when your are a mum
Do not give this grasping woman a nother second thought,

She didn't know the 'friend' was going to react like that though did she?

The OP hasn't gone 'wrong' at any stage of this.

Not in getting pregnant.

Not in trying to tell the friend sensitively.

Not in sharing the friends abhorrent reaction woth her own friends for suppprt.

Not in continuing to go to the wedding.

None of it.

Pinkelephantridesagain · 08/08/2025 16:53

GreyCarpet · 08/08/2025 16:48

She didn't know the 'friend' was going to react like that though did she?

The OP hasn't gone 'wrong' at any stage of this.

Not in getting pregnant.

Not in trying to tell the friend sensitively.

Not in sharing the friends abhorrent reaction woth her own friends for suppprt.

Not in continuing to go to the wedding.

None of it.

Yes ,you are right
Op was trying to be nice ,she hasn't gone wrong
I should of left that first sentence about going wrong ,out of my messages

Mistyglade · 08/08/2025 16:55

Clearly she’s not sound of mind. Presumably she’s normally a decent person otherwise she wouldn’t be in their friendship group. Pp seem to be under the misapprehension that I’m excusing this woman’s behaviour to even try and look under the lid of such an extreme reaction. What she said was sick and hideous and I can only imagine how much pain and anger she’s in based on my experience, I kept conceiving and losing which played havoc with my mental state. What she’s said to you is unforgivable and grotesque. I am worried for her future that all.

HelplessSoul · 08/08/2025 16:57

Mistyglade · 08/08/2025 16:43

Only your username and your opinion.

Go back to bed. Seriously. 🤦‍♂️

GreyCarpet · 08/08/2025 16:58

Pinkelephantridesagain · 08/08/2025 16:53

Yes ,you are right
Op was trying to be nice ,she hasn't gone wrong
I should of left that first sentence about going wrong ,out of my messages

It's jist that there are a ridiculous number of people.on here who think the OP is in the wrong. Or at least holds the responsibility for putting it right.

It's crazy!

Pinkelephantridesagain · 08/08/2025 17:00

GreyCarpet · 08/08/2025 16:58

It's jist that there are a ridiculous number of people.on here who think the OP is in the wrong. Or at least holds the responsibility for putting it right.

It's crazy!

Totally agree
I worded what I was trying to say badly
The woman is unhinged,and not a friend

Delphinium20 · 08/08/2025 17:10

I'm sorry she's suffering ttc, but you've done nothing wrong, you did what is usually counseled by people in these situations. She's unhinged, taking it out on you and that is 100 percent wrong. I'm glad her DH knows all the details as it sounds like she needs professional mental health support. Best thing you can do is be polite and ignore her.

Under no circumstances should you not go to the wedding, unless you think she's dangerous. Leave no drinks unattended!!!

Pluvia · 08/08/2025 17:27

sorry, misread something and responded to what I thought I'd read, not what I actually read.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 08/08/2025 17:40

Who does she think she is! She is so controlling and feels like she owns you - does she normally boss you about and gets away with it?
I have been sad before but I have never made such demands on anyone.
You did exactly the kindest most thoughtful way of telling her and you stood up for yourself well.
Your wedding friends, and the ex friend DH have said and done the right thing too.

I would reply and say 'I'll be going to the wedding as I was invited and want to support the couple, I wish you only the very best, and I understand you need to do what feels right for you.'

MeridianB · 08/08/2025 17:41

You're handling this well and your plan to keep your distance but be polite/civil if you see her is spot-on.

At this point she is behaving like a rude idiot who has lost the power of rational thought. Other people will see this for what it is.

Her DH sounds very kind and empathetic. It's good that you gave him a heads up about the wedding as he clearly sees her behaviour as unacceptable and will (hopefully) know what to do to avoid her creating a scene.

You've done nothing wrong. Just tune her out and enjoy your pregnancy.

Sevenh · 08/08/2025 17:46

It’s all been said but this is such a sad thread.

I feel very sorry for your friend as she is clearly struggling and in a state of great distress and emotional turmoil. I have seen this happen to quite a few people experiencing problems trying to conceive. They behave in a way that they would never do normally and the toll it takes on their mental health is huge.

Definitely go to the wedding and be dignified and civil, focussing on all you have and all she does not. I would try to see her as someone with a mental health issue and show tolerance to her with that in mind.

Good luck and congratulations on your pregnancy!

Mary46 · 08/08/2025 17:46

She not in a good headspace. Op keep your distance for now. I do think this friendship is over. As regards wedding keep away from her! My friend became quite toxic with me her son was in prison. She did say sorry. Its never the same.. hope u ok

OldTiredMum1976 · 08/08/2025 17:52

I struggled to conceive and then had 10 miscarriages over 3 years before finally having a baby. I look back at that time with sadness and horror. I was insanely jealous of my friend’s pregnancies. I was horrible to a lot of them and then became a hermit. Luckily they understood and forgave me. My younger sister started trying just after my 10th miscarriage and I fully intended to take my own life if she told me she was pregnant as I felt that I would lose my family as well due to not being able to be around her. I had it all planned down to the last detail. Luckily, I conceived the next month and had my baby.

I was severely mentally unwell due to not being able to have a child and your friend probably is too. Yes, she is being completely unreasonable but please try to find it in yourself to offer her a little grace. Could you try and build bridges before the wedding? I know you shouldn’t have to make the first move but please understand her pain.

PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 08/08/2025 17:55

Helpmeplease2025 · 08/08/2025 16:37

It’s really not up to OP to help this person if they don’t want to.

Women constantly instructing other women that they must ‘be kind’ is toxic.

Absolutely thus, sending her flowers, hand written notes, waiting on a peg for the 'friend' to deign to accept to be polite again and stop her venomous campaign of lie spreading? #beeeKIND women ..

Searchingforananswer2023 · 08/08/2025 17:56

Full sympathy for the friend who is struggling TTC however, it is completely insane to do this to you and spoil your happiness, which you have not rubbed in her face at all.

Her response is unhinged and you owe her f* all - go to the wedding. She needs some support with her MH and her DH should be intervening here.

Wigglytails · 08/08/2025 18:03

Congrats on your news.

your friend is clearly hurting and imho it was insensitive way you told her your news. A voice note (to hear your sincerity) or asking if she has time to talk would have been better on your part and more empathetic way to deliver your news. It’s also very crass to tell her it was unexpected and you weren’t even trying.

Undoubtedly she had behaved badly but she is in what sounds like an extreme emotional state for a prolonged period of time whilst she has been on an ivf journey & whilst calm rationale dictates it’s not your fault she is struggling with fertility & all the anger hurt shame and sadness is being directed your way. You should have been a better friend to understand how to communicate with your friend in a sensitive way.

hopefully you can show her some grace and she can get some support from her friends and family & in time will eventually join the mum club.

GreyCarpet · 08/08/2025 18:11

Wigglytails · 08/08/2025 18:03

Congrats on your news.

your friend is clearly hurting and imho it was insensitive way you told her your news. A voice note (to hear your sincerity) or asking if she has time to talk would have been better on your part and more empathetic way to deliver your news. It’s also very crass to tell her it was unexpected and you weren’t even trying.

Undoubtedly she had behaved badly but she is in what sounds like an extreme emotional state for a prolonged period of time whilst she has been on an ivf journey & whilst calm rationale dictates it’s not your fault she is struggling with fertility & all the anger hurt shame and sadness is being directed your way. You should have been a better friend to understand how to communicate with your friend in a sensitive way.

hopefully you can show her some grace and she can get some support from her friends and family & in time will eventually join the mum club.

Well you're a better person than me then because I wouldn't be showing any grace to someone who tried to manipulate my friendship group against me, badmouthed me and suggested I should abort my baby because they were jealous of me.