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Friendship problems- AIBU to go even though it will upset her?

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jacks11 · 07/08/2025 23:19

I don’t think I am unreasonable- though accept my(possibly ex-) friend is struggling.

Good friend and her DH have been TTC for some time, several failed rounds if IVF and it looks increasingly like it just us not going to happen. Friend’s DH had agreed one last round IVF but says after this he would like to stop as they just can’t afford it and he feels emotionally it is becoming too much, though if they can conceive naturally (albeit unlikely) he’d be delighted. I, and our other friends, have always been as supportive as we can be and I think I have been a good friend in lots of other ways too. We’ve been friends for a long time.

DH and I have DC, as do most of our other friends. I am pregnant- this was unplanned- but we are happily surprised. We waited until 12 weeks and before we told anyone else (other than our parents). I messaged her to say I had something I wanted to tell her (at a time when she wasn’t at work or anything like that). She immediately messaged back to say “you’re bloody pregnant, aren’t you?”. I replied that I was and that I just wanted to let her know in private before anyone else found out. I genuinely thought this was the easiest way- she would get time to privately react however she felt, without having to put a brave face on/ think about how that would look to others etc. I’m happy to concede she might have preferred a different approach but this was genuinely with good intentions.

She called me a few minutes later and was absolutely horrible- she berated me for not telling her we were ttc. I said that a)if we had been it would not have been something we necessarily had to share with others if we didn’t want to; b) we weren’t exactly TTC, although we are happy about it; c) I would not have thought she would have wanted to know if we had been. She then replied “well, I can’t believe you let that happen” and “ that was f***g stupid of you”, kept going on about how it’s just irresponsible and something only “daft teenagers” do etc. was I really sure this was what I wanted? I said that even if not planned, we are happy about it, and it’s not as though we are in any way going to struggle- financially secure, solid relationship, both in good health etc. I was really taken aback- I expected she might be upset, perhaps want to keep her distance a bit (although I’d have missed her, I’d have understood why) or not want to hear much about my pregnancy. But she was actually utterly vile. I was really upset and appalled by her attitude, told her so and ended the phone-call.

I told my husband who was upset and angry too. We decided to just leave it, let things cool and see where we stood once we’d had time to calm down. I decided not to contact her again, leave the ball in her court regarding the next step.

I told our other friends re pregnancy and they are all delighted for us. DH is friends with her DH- he contacted DH to say he’d heard the news, congratulated him but said he knew his DW and I had “fallen out”. They had a chat and her DH was surprised by what DH told him about what had happened. He was actually quite shaken according to DH. He messaged me to say congratulations and he was sorry for how things went with his DW, she’s just really struggling and he hopes we could work it out. I replied thanking him and that he was not responsible for what his wife had said but appreciated the thought.

I had told two of my closest friends exactly what had happened. Some of our other friends could tell something had happened but I just said that things were strained and not really in contact with her, without giving details. She has been unpleasant about me to a few mutual friends- this has caused friction with them, and most have now sussed out why we aren’t speaking. I have not tried to get anyone to “take sides”. I’ve just carried on, other than not contacting her directly.

We are due to attend our friends wedding- DH is a groomsman. Friend and her DH are also invited. She has demanded that I do not go- DH can, but I can’t. Bride and groom have said we are both invited and if either of us feel we can’t be civil, then it’s best that that person don’t come. I am happy just to be polite and think we should be able to keep our distance. I fully intend to go. I’ve had a lot of messages demanding I “don’t take another thing” from her. I’ve ignored her.

Most of our friends feel she is being totally unreasonable, but two friends have suggested that I “give her this” as she’s struggling. I don’t feel much like putting her first, nor do I think it wise- frankly, if I give in to this it won’t stop at this event, she’ll just try to exclude me from other things. This has caused some friends to fall out and I feel really caught in the middle. AIBU to go?

OP posts:
Never2many · 08/08/2025 14:03

Honestly the more I read about this woman the more I think her not being able to conceive is a good thing.

It’s not hard to see what kind of parent she would be.

Mini2025 · 08/08/2025 14:04

She needs to understand that you falling pregnant doesn't change anything.

If you were or were not pregnant - it doesn't change the outcome for her.

It's really sad. She's obviously in a great deal of pain and she's taking this out on you but it's not your fault and you should go to the wedding.

She needs counselling/therapy to help her reach a point of acceptance. Also, getting this angry surely can't help her chances. Cortisol must be through the roof.

ItscoldinAugust · 08/08/2025 14:05

TheTwitcher11 · 07/08/2025 23:28

You’ve done nothing wrong but at the same time, I do feel really sorry for your friend (not your fault obvs) - she’s clearly not thinking rationally.

This.

NewBlueNoteBook · 08/08/2025 14:16

These kind of threads make me absolutely furious.

We struggled with infertility for years while our friends and family all had baby after baby.

I never said anything other than “congratulations that’s wonderful news”.

There is no excuse at all for being horrible to someone to a friend who is lucky enough to get pregnant just because you can’t.

HAPPILYMARRIEDSINCE2012 · 08/08/2025 14:23

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 08/08/2025 11:58

She is obviously going through a horrendous time and I really feel for her, but it's not right to take it out on you.

Of course you should go to the wedding.

She should get some counselling.

Completely agree

Mumlaplomb · 08/08/2025 14:27

To be honest OP I think you need to go, otherwise she may feel vindicated and carry on this vindictive behaviour towards you . People generallY behave at weddings so just go, keep clear of her but don’t let her affect your day.

Campingisnexttogodliness · 08/08/2025 14:38

Nobody can be in the middle. Op you've given this too much head space..
You're pregnant
She isn't happy
You aren't going to terminate to please her..
Move on.
Without her..
Nobody of sound mind thinks her actions are acceptable..

Velmy · 08/08/2025 14:39

Whiningatwine · 08/08/2025 09:35

I think for me it's telling a woman who has been struggling, that you weren't even trying and it just happened. It just highlights the unfair nature of fertility. Telling her she was pregnant, absolutely not an issue. Telling her that they weren't trying is unnecessary and going to add to the hurt

OP didn't offer this information. The woman asked her, specifically, if they had been TTC or not. OP does not have to lie in response.

Does she then have to lie to the rest of the friendship group?

If this woman is so jealous and bitter that she can't handle the idea of someone getting pregnant without planning, she shouldn't have asked.

BauhausOfEliott · 08/08/2025 14:46

You should absolutely go to the wedding. None of this is your fault - you've done nothing wrong and your friend's fertility issues are not an excuse for the way she's behaved towards you. Going through a hard time doesn't give anyone carte blanche to be as vile as she's being. The world doesn't revolve around her problems.

NorthSouthEast · 08/08/2025 14:50

Your mutual friends need to tell her that she’s out of line creating drama about this and involving someone else’s wedding. The poor bride and groom are going to worry that there will be some sort of showdown on their day. That’s unacceptable and your ex friend needs to give her head a wobble and be very clear that she’s not going to create a scene. (We all know you’re not going to @jacks11 but it sounds like this woman is so unhinged that she’s going to take anything you do or say, or don’t do and don’t say, as a slight).

XiCi · 08/08/2025 14:50

You should absolutely go to the wedding. I would steer well clear of her though. Who knows what she's capable of especially after a shed load of drink at the wedding. Given the way she has acted up to now, she's not going to sit and seethe quietly is she. She sounds unhinged and I'd be prepared for her to go off on you.
Given her DH surprise that you were thinking of not going it would seem he has no idea of the messages she has been sending you. Id speak to him and let him know, explain you are worried about a scene at the wedding. Maybe he can talk some sense into her.

Clareat2021 · 08/08/2025 14:53

jacks11 · 08/08/2025 11:37

My husband thinks I’m being too nice about it- I’m not usually a people pleaser or a pushover. I do think she is not coping and I think she needs help, not that it’s my place to say so given the circumstances- and so I think I’ve tried to be more passive about it than I would normally be about someone being so unkind to me.

I also really don’t want to put anyone else in the middle of it, it’s awkward and unnecessary. They can’t do anything to change the situation, nor do they wish to.

I think the fact she has tried to involve others is actually going to fracture her support because she’s fallen out with several of our friends who haven’t agreed with her or who have stated they aren’t getting involved. There are 2 friends who are probably closer to her who agree she’s not behaving well but feel her distress deserves a huge amount of leeway and I should just let her get what she wants for now until she is feeling better. I won’t agree to that because I can’t just accede to her whims about where I go or who I see, I’m just not prepared to do that.

I agree with you 100% my only thought is it's not your or her day and if there is any chance the wedding of someone else totally not involved, could be impacted then minimising that risk is priority. It's so not fair but I would consider not going to protect your friends wedding. Good luck though OP, she's clearly struggling but her response to you is really unfair X

Discoprincess6 · 08/08/2025 14:54

Wow this is insane. You go that wedding and have the time of your life! You don’t need to justify yourself to anyone and if people fall out that’s not your fault either.

MoveOverToTheSea · 08/08/2025 14:56

There are 2 friends who are probably closer to her who agree she’s not behaving well but feel her distress deserves a huge amount of leeway and I should just let her get what she wants for now until she is feeling better. I won’t agree to that because I can’t just accede to her whims about where I go or who I see, I’m just not prepared to do that.

I don’t disagree with you about that.

But one person that is hardly talked about here is the bride and groom.
They've asked you to avoid problems at theyr wedding. Which is fair enpugh. That day should be about them, not the issue between you and your friend.

If you’re going, what are tge chances everything is going to blow up and their wedding is going to be affected?
Because, even if you dint ‘start it’, if things escalate, I’d feel pretty responsible for it to happen if I was at your place.
And I’d feel shit for the bride.

Notquitethetruth · 08/08/2025 15:02

Some of the replies here are absolutely batshit.
Send her flowers?
Write her a note?
Why??? To justify her outrageous comments to @jacks11 ?
Suggesting she has an abortion or admonishing her for having a drink when she didn't know she was pregnant?
Asking if the pregnancy was planned?
Of course her 'friend' is hurting but that doesn't give her the right to be rude and abusive. There is no excuse for that behaviour. Indulging her disgraceful carry on will only encourage her more. She needs help and tip toeing around her should not be part of that.
@jacks11 enjoy the wedding and dismiss her from your thoughts so you can enjoy your pregnancy. You did all you could to help her and make it easier but she threw that back in your face. No more interaction with her.
*The only person who needs to examine their behaviour at the wedding is the 'friend'. Instead of behaving like an adult, like others here have done, she has caused unnecessary drama and tension for all. Maybe she should consider staying at home.

GreyCarpet · 08/08/2025 15:10

MoveOverToTheSea · 08/08/2025 14:56

There are 2 friends who are probably closer to her who agree she’s not behaving well but feel her distress deserves a huge amount of leeway and I should just let her get what she wants for now until she is feeling better. I won’t agree to that because I can’t just accede to her whims about where I go or who I see, I’m just not prepared to do that.

I don’t disagree with you about that.

But one person that is hardly talked about here is the bride and groom.
They've asked you to avoid problems at theyr wedding. Which is fair enpugh. That day should be about them, not the issue between you and your friend.

If you’re going, what are tge chances everything is going to blow up and their wedding is going to be affected?
Because, even if you dint ‘start it’, if things escalate, I’d feel pretty responsible for it to happen if I was at your place.
And I’d feel shit for the bride.

Edited

But she's spoken to the groom since. He's confirmed that they both want her there and they didn't want or expect her to stay away.

The husband of this woman has congratulated both the OP and her busband and apologised for his wife's behaviour.

In the bride and groom's shoes, I'd be telling the 'friend' that the OP is invited, welcome and coming.

I'd also be telling the 'frend' that she is also invited and welcome but setting clear expectations for the day regarding her conduct.

I'd also be making it clear to everyone that, if she kicks off, the husband will need to remove her. And that the OP has done nothing wrong and they won't allow her to be harangued at their wedding.

If the 'friend' isn't comfortable with any of the, she can stay home.

None of that is anything to do with the OP.

The OP is, after all, pregnant!

Thriftygal · 08/08/2025 15:16

"Bride and groom have said we are both invited and if either of us feel we can’t be civil, then it’s best that that person don’t come"

Go to the wedding, this is not a decision you should even worry about making as the bride and groom have been explicitly clear about their wishes and they should have the final say.
I have every sympathy for this lady who is clearly struggling at the moment, it it may explain her behaviour but it doesn't make it ok. She wasn't just lashing out in the moment either as she has continued trying to escalate the situation by isolating you from your joint friends. I understand the other two friends that are trying to support her but enabling her unreasonable behaviour isn't going to help her at all.

If she does decide to attend the wedding and she tries to berate you further I would walk away without reacting.

Katebridgerton25 · 08/08/2025 15:44

You’ve handled it very well OP. Surprised by the brides response/reaction. Only because if someone had the entitlement to basically un-invite one of my guests, I’d be spitting feathers and having a word about how out of line that was. Your friend is certainly crossing a lot of boundaries and I’d say her behaviour is definitely verging on unhinged in her grief.

SpidersAreShitheads · 08/08/2025 15:46

I think, for me, it's the fact that the ex-friend is systematically trying to turn everyone against her behind her back. Thankfully it's not working, but I think that goes above and beyond acceptable behaviour.

The things she said to you were truly awful. But the way she's now acting, trying to destroy your friendships and reputation - well, there's no way back from that imo.

If it was just the phone call I might have been willing to consider giving her space at the wedding. Possibly. But she's trying to force you out of the friendships you have and talking about you behind your back. I don't care how traumatised she is, that's spiteful and malicious.

I'm glad you're going to the wedding. As Michelle Obama says, when they go low, you go high. Continue to deal with this in a dignified and compassionate way, but don't get sucked into any of the drama.

FWIW, I accidentally fell pregnant with twins. While in a casual relationship (contraception fail). A very close friend had been trying to conceive for years and was distraught. She said some very unkind things to me eg/well, at least I can find a man who actually wants me etc. I gave her grace, I gave her space, and never responded. My twins were very premature and unwell so I didn't return to my previous job - I never heard from her again. Very sad but probably for the best as she was just so angry with me.

Fertility is such a fucker and there's just no magic solution. It's so, so very hard, especially as babies and children often seem to be everywhere.

Congratulations on your pregnancy OP ❤️

Gabby8 · 08/08/2025 15:54

Mini2025 · 08/08/2025 14:04

She needs to understand that you falling pregnant doesn't change anything.

If you were or were not pregnant - it doesn't change the outcome for her.

It's really sad. She's obviously in a great deal of pain and she's taking this out on you but it's not your fault and you should go to the wedding.

She needs counselling/therapy to help her reach a point of acceptance. Also, getting this angry surely can't help her chances. Cortisol must be through the roof.

Yep- someone I know has a lovely phrase “salt in other people’s tea doesn’t make yours taste sweeter”.

MocktailMe · 08/08/2025 15:57

Never2many · 08/08/2025 14:03

Honestly the more I read about this woman the more I think her not being able to conceive is a good thing.

It’s not hard to see what kind of parent she would be.

This is a horrible disgusting thing to say. This woman has behaved terribly, but she's suffering and her actions stem from that.

That DOESNT mean OP has to bend over backwards to accommodate her. She doesn't.

It DOESNT mean she can behave however she likes.

It DOESNT make it okay for her to say horrible things to OP.

But please try to remember, fertility is not a moral judgement. This snapshot of this woman - in what is probably the worst time of her whole life - does not mean it's 'a good thing' she's had to suffer how she has by being infertile. She's reacting as she is BECAUSE she can't have children - her reaction doesn't prove she should never have been able to have them.

Not excusing her behaviour at all (OP is not in the wrong here) but her behaviour here is hardly that of a serial killer or pedophile, where I would understand someone referring to their infertility as a good thing!

MincePiesAndStilton · 08/08/2025 16:12

What a witch. Go to the wedding in your most bumptastic dress. And I say that as someone who had a difficult road to getting DC whilst all my friends seemingly bred like rabbits.

Dodeedoo · 08/08/2025 16:20

As someone who is struggling to conceive, I am genuinely really embarrassed for your ‘friend’.

Dodeedoo · 08/08/2025 16:21

Never2many · 08/08/2025 14:03

Honestly the more I read about this woman the more I think her not being able to conceive is a good thing.

It’s not hard to see what kind of parent she would be.

You sound delightful

HelplessSoul · 08/08/2025 16:27

jacks11 · 08/08/2025 10:35

I have messaged her husband last night to let him know we will both be at the wedding, just so they know. I’ve said I’m happy to keep my distance from them, or be polite if we are in closer proximity (bride says we are not seated together) but that I am going.

He has replied that he never expected otherwise, that of course we should both go and he’s sorry about the situation. I’ve said I hope he is ok and that she is getting the support she needs.

Your "friends" infertility issues are not of your making.

She is totally fucking unreasonable.

Enjoy your pregnancy and for your own health and sanity, block her and dont explain why.

She is acting like a spoilt brat. People like that deserve zero attention. Zero.

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