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To book holiday without friend

391 replies

TarzanGirl · 07/08/2025 09:54

Have a bit of a dilemma here and don’t know if I’m being unreasonable or not…

Group of 4 friends. 3 of us are what you would call ‘high earners’ whilst our 4th friend works a more ‘hobby’ job for want of a better term and only earns about £45/50k a year.

Last year, we’d all agreed on a city break destination but the proposed hotel was vetoed by our friend due to being too costly, so we went to an alternative (which wasn’t great) at her request.

We are looking at going away again later this year. Early discussions between two of us (not the 4th friend). We really want to stay somewhere more luxurious but know our friend won’t be able to afford it.

Out of the options below, what do you think is most appropriate? We give our friend the option of joining, knowing full well she can’t stay there and when she suggests an alternative, say no. Or book without her knowledge and hope she doesn’t find out about it? We don’t really post on social media so that’s not an issue.

OP posts:
InterIgnis · 07/08/2025 17:30

Roobarbtwo · 07/08/2025 17:00

I'm out of touch with her reality because I don't earn 100k plus a year - that doesn't mean a four night break for 3k isn't expensive.

Just as you don’t need to take into account your reality if you post about having a dilemma, she doesn’t need to take into account yours.

This type of holiday isn’t expensive for OP, or something she would struggle affording. In fact, it may be very reasonably priced for the level of service she would be getting. She doesn’t have to call it expensive because you do.

Winterwanderings · 07/08/2025 17:31

Haha, yes teacher here too, looking forward to getting back to my “hobby job” after the holidays. 🤣

InterIgnis · 07/08/2025 17:44

Createausername1970 · 07/08/2025 17:17

I haven't got past the OPs first few updates, but this has to be one of the most entitled threads on here.

OMG OP, your friend needs nicer friends.

I have a lovely friend who likes to do things that I can't really afford. We have a compromise, she generally pays for the accommodation and any tickets etc, and I pay for our meals and alcohol bill. She is happy she has company she likes and I am happy to be contributing in a way I can afford

It's not hard to sort it out between you in a non-judgy way.

Oh please. As if it isn’t entitled to think your friends shouldn’t be able to go and enjoy a holiday because you can’t afford it.

Op and her friends been very inclusive of her by going on holidays they wouldn’t have chosen for themselves. They want one holiday according to their preferences, which is hardly outrageous.

Notsosure1 · 07/08/2025 18:18

TarzanGirl · 07/08/2025 16:09

It’s not outrageously expensive at all. No more than £3,000 each for flights and hotel. Which for a luxury holiday is brilliant value.

Let me guess, it’s an overnighter 😂

HisNibs · 07/08/2025 18:34

It doesn't really matter which option you go with.

"Or book without her knowledge and hope she doesn’t find out about it?"
Hope she doesn't find out? Who needs enemies with friends like you, huh?

Clearly, friend 4 is far too poor to be part of your group so why don't you do her a favour and cut her loose so she can find nicer friends?

Roobarbtwo · 07/08/2025 19:14

InterIgnis · 07/08/2025 17:30

Just as you don’t need to take into account your reality if you post about having a dilemma, she doesn’t need to take into account yours.

This type of holiday isn’t expensive for OP, or something she would struggle affording. In fact, it may be very reasonably priced for the level of service she would be getting. She doesn’t have to call it expensive because you do.

I don't really care what she does or doesn't need to take into account. I'm not the only person who thinks 3 grand for a 4 night holiday is completely ridiculous - maybe go and quote everything they say

Roobarbtwo · 07/08/2025 19:19

InterIgnis · 07/08/2025 17:44

Oh please. As if it isn’t entitled to think your friends shouldn’t be able to go and enjoy a holiday because you can’t afford it.

Op and her friends been very inclusive of her by going on holidays they wouldn’t have chosen for themselves. They want one holiday according to their preferences, which is hardly outrageous.

Nowhere in the original post does it say that they've constantly been accommodating this friend. They said it was one holiday last year

InterIgnis · 07/08/2025 19:31

Roobarbtwo · 07/08/2025 19:19

Nowhere in the original post does it say that they've constantly been accommodating this friend. They said it was one holiday last year

So then they accommodated her last year when she vetoed their preferences. Why shouldn’t they have the type of holiday they want this year?

Roobarbtwo · 07/08/2025 19:32

InterIgnis · 07/08/2025 19:31

So then they accommodated her last year when she vetoed their preferences. Why shouldn’t they have the type of holiday they want this year?

You're getting on my every last nerve. I won't be responding to you again.

InterIgnis · 07/08/2025 19:34

Roobarbtwo · 07/08/2025 19:32

You're getting on my every last nerve. I won't be responding to you again.

Relax, it’s only mumsnet.

But fair enough 😊

Elephant788 · 07/08/2025 19:42

No concierge service! Stuck up is the only words coming to mind! Ffs
Youre not a good 'friend' am surprised you even consider yourself that, Jesus!🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

ChildFreeAndOhSoHappy · 07/08/2025 19:45

Elephant788 · 07/08/2025 19:42

No concierge service! Stuck up is the only words coming to mind! Ffs
Youre not a good 'friend' am surprised you even consider yourself that, Jesus!🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

Some people enjoy luxurious holidays, what's the problem with that? Her friend doesn't have to join every holiday, some she will be able to afford and some she won't. I really don't see the issue here and why either side should have to be in a position where they resent the other.

Roobarbtwo · 07/08/2025 20:36

ChildFreeAndOhSoHappy · 07/08/2025 19:45

Some people enjoy luxurious holidays, what's the problem with that? Her friend doesn't have to join every holiday, some she will be able to afford and some she won't. I really don't see the issue here and why either side should have to be in a position where they resent the other.

Edited

Maybe because the OP belittled her friends 50k a year salary. Stuck up snob. Particularly as so many people in the UK are are struggling to feed themselves or heat their homes. Honestly - I've been on holidays where I have had fantastic weather and a great holiday both abroad and in the UK really cheaply. People don't need to spend 3k in 4 days to have a good time. That's a side issue. It's the fact they couldn't be bothered to tell their friend they were going on holiday without her because she's too "poor"

Squishymallows · 07/08/2025 20:37

I WISH I earned £50k a year. That would be amazing.

Account734 · 07/08/2025 20:48

Hobby job at only 45/50k. You sound out of touch and quite awful.

goldenquestion · 07/08/2025 21:10

ChildFreeAndOhSoHappy · 07/08/2025 19:45

Some people enjoy luxurious holidays, what's the problem with that? Her friend doesn't have to join every holiday, some she will be able to afford and some she won't. I really don't see the issue here and why either side should have to be in a position where they resent the other.

Edited

The issue is the OP is a huge snob and assuming that her poor mate who only pisses about doing hobby jobs and scrapes by on £50k a year won’t be able to afford to come and so rather than just ask her and let her make a decision, she is considering organising a trip with the rich friends and not telling her.

Panterusblackish · 07/08/2025 21:14

TarzanGirl · 07/08/2025 10:04

Not at all, the hotel reviews from around the time we went back up our experience too.

Beige food, loud building work on site, no concierge service to name a few issues.

No concierge service! Oh the humanity

Roobarbtwo · 07/08/2025 23:46

goldenquestion · 07/08/2025 21:10

The issue is the OP is a huge snob and assuming that her poor mate who only pisses about doing hobby jobs and scrapes by on £50k a year won’t be able to afford to come and so rather than just ask her and let her make a decision, she is considering organising a trip with the rich friends and not telling her.

This

Roobarbtwo · 07/08/2025 23:47

Panterusblackish · 07/08/2025 21:14

No concierge service! Oh the humanity

Maybe they should have looked at the reviews before they went. You would think someone on 6 figures a year could eat elsewhere to avoid the beige food. Snob.

ChildFreeAndOhSoHappy · 07/08/2025 23:52

The number of people on here calling someone a snob, simply for liking a certain level of luxury and food with some colour in it on a holiday is quite telling. It really speaks to the shitty quality of life people in the UK have become accustomed to. If I went on a holiday with only beige food options I wouldn't be impressed either and I would certainly not be looking for a repeat of the same.

InterIgnis · 08/08/2025 00:49

ChildFreeAndOhSoHappy · 07/08/2025 23:52

The number of people on here calling someone a snob, simply for liking a certain level of luxury and food with some colour in it on a holiday is quite telling. It really speaks to the shitty quality of life people in the UK have become accustomed to. If I went on a holiday with only beige food options I wouldn't be impressed either and I would certainly not be looking for a repeat of the same.

Edited

Yeah, I’m not sure why liking a concierge service and non beige food makes someone a snob (if it does though, then oh fucking well! Concierge services are great).

She also wasn’t ‘looking down’ on her friend by acknowledging that she doesn’t make the same, and thus cannot afford the same, as the rest of group.

cherish123 · 08/08/2025 01:03

At 45k, she should be able to afford a 5 star hotel, unless she has massive outgoings.

JMSA · 08/08/2025 01:55

I was out when you described her work as a ‘hobby job’ that only earns 45 - 50K.
You have made yourself sound like a dick.

Jumpingthruhoops · 08/08/2025 02:34

TarzanGirl · 07/08/2025 10:11

Put like that I can definitely see your point. I think we are going to have to tell her and give her the choice of joining but stand firm on where we’d like to go.

If you really wanted her to join, you'd find a compromise.

The fact you'd rather stay at this hotel than have your friend on board, speaks volumes!

I agree with others - if you're so wealthy, surely you can sort the difference?

And as for 'penalised for having successful careers'. No. Words.

dilema2024 · 08/08/2025 04:15

ChildFreeAndOhSoHappy · 07/08/2025 23:52

The number of people on here calling someone a snob, simply for liking a certain level of luxury and food with some colour in it on a holiday is quite telling. It really speaks to the shitty quality of life people in the UK have become accustomed to. If I went on a holiday with only beige food options I wouldn't be impressed either and I would certainly not be looking for a repeat of the same.

Edited

It’s not really to with the holiday it’s the OPs description of earning less which makes her appear so unpleasant

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