Do you believe there will be a civil war?

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I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately and I wonder if others feel the same. With everything going on, from the arrival of illegal migrants in small boats to a government that seems powerless, and with Farage gaining popularity because people are fed up, it feels like tension is rising across the country.

People are frustrated. You try to raise concerns and are instantly labelled a racist or bigot, even when your worries are about integration, safety, and national identity, not race. It feels like any honest conversation is being shut down.

There are parts of the UK where people who were born and raised here no longer feel at home. In some areas, if you are not part of the dominant local community, you can feel completely out of place or even unsafe walking alone at night. That is not right in your own country.

It is not just about people coming from Muslim-majority countries or those arriving illegally. There are also large numbers of Eastern Europeans, including Bulgarians, Romanians, and Russians. Many work hard and contribute, but there are also communities forming where people keep to themselves, speak no English, and make no effort to integrate. Some of these areas are experiencing rising antisocial behaviour, crime, and a breakdown of community life.

You can find videos online showing the state of some of these areas, with rubbish piling up, people ignoring the rules, and no sign of enforcement. It looks lawless, and it often is. But speaking about it honestly is considered of limits.

I live next to a Muslim family and they are wonderful people. Friendly, respectful, hardworking. So this is not about judging individuals. This is about a wider pattern where people are arriving, not integrating, and changing the fabric of our country in ways no one voted for.

We are a Christian country with our own traditions, values, and way of life. Why is it seen as wrong to want to preserve that? If we moved to Saudi Arabia, Bulgaria, or Russia, we would be expected to adapt to their culture. So why is it unacceptable to ask the same here?

The anger and division in this country are growing. I do not want unrest or conflict, but I cannot ignore what feels like a serious shift. When ordinary people feel ignored for too long, things eventually boil over.

Is anyone else feeling this? Or are we just not allowed to talk about it anymore?

So this civil war then.

I tried to ask this question a load of pages back but no one could answer.

Who will be fighting who?

Obvs we have the people rioting last summer, they are clearly up for a fight. But they do not really represent a large majority of people in this country do they.

Im guessing the targets will be anyone non white British, regardless of how long they and their families have been here, generations in many cases.

For a civil war to happen, there has to be two clear sides fighting it out. I can only see one side wanting to fight right now.

The police, and army, should it come to that, have a duty to uphold law and order and I believe they will be robust in doing so.

So who exactly is this civil war going to be comprising of? Won’t it be just another example of a load of thugs kicking off against the police, and then getting nicked…? Like it was last year.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1cgeXd5kRDg

Are you me ? 😀

I really hope so... but radical Islam has a way of "surprising" people. I do hope there is nothing to be worried about.

Sorry, I keep editing this! 😬 I'm not worried about civil war, but civil unrest does seem to be on our doorstep.

@NaicePeachJoker i may not have been clear enough in my post. What I’m saying is that there’s no future, none at all, in a piecemeal approach to the huge problems faced by us people the world over. Without a global and co operative approach we are done for. That may not be possible, due to our animal nature, but it’s got to be worth a go.

I really hope so... but radical Islam has a way of "surprising" people.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-36914228

Brits are too apathetic for an uprising, prefer to moan than take action

Exactly this. Civil unrest, definitely could be if the weather stays nice. The idiots taking part probably couldn't even articulate why they are taking part.
A properly organised movement is beyond most of the lumpen lot who want 'civil war'

That's such a heartbreaking story. But THAT IS NOT RADICAL ISLAM! and it was 14 years ago, don't you think the mood has shifted, especially since Oct 2023? Plus, as I have repeatedly stated, I have no problem with the Muslim community. They must surely be as worried about the jihadists causing mayhem as I am.

Agreed. A bunch of keyboard warriors who wouldn’t even be bothered to do passive resistance if called to it. There’s a bunch of thugs who’ll turn out for fighting season and latch themselves onto anything that feeds their egos/ blankets their insecurities. But a civil war? Nah.

Just to say, why are you conflating a Muslim with radical Islam? they are as different as Sunday school from the Ku Klux Klan 😬

Can you explain this comment?

I was talking about radical Islam, not the Muslim community. Have I missed something, Tariq Jahan is simply a Muslim? it's absolutely not the same thing at all.

https://www.protectuk.police.uk/threat-risk/threat-analysis/threat-islamist-terrorism

Here they are. Doctors and engineers. I’m really not worried at all.

Wouldn’t you have to be a Muslim to be a radical Muslim?

What do you mean?

Yes, in the same sense that you'd have to be "Christian" to be a member of the Ku Klux Klan... the ideologies are entirely different. I'm amazed that PP mixed them up, as though all Muslims are a threat. How weird.

Why would there be? Channel migrants have reduced under labour. There are now a third fewer in hotels than when the Tories left office.
id there was going to be a "civil war" over this dyuff it should have been when Johnson was PM. Stop reading the ridiculous tabloids.

Radical anything is bad, and a perversion of that faith. Those people are a tiny minority.

Threats of a civil war in this country are mainly coming from radical “Christians”, who are equally perverted from the faith they claim to follow.

I thought the estimate was between 10 and 20% (https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2006/2/19/poll-40-of-uk-muslims-want-sharia) ?

I don’t know the percentage of Christians who are in the KKK, I didn’t even know we had it in the U.K..

What radical Christian’s are threatening civil war? Do you have a link to that story? I think I’m a bit out the loop on a lot of this.

Where are they living now?

It's this weird idea that extremist Muslims are somehow worse than extremist Christians. And that is of course total bollocks.

Ha, no, you're not out of the loop! It was just an analogy.

A Muslim person has about as much in common with a radical Muslim as a Christian does with the Ku Klux Klan.

Hope that makes sense!

I'm talking about threats to national security, not the personal qualities of individuals. Of course there are some proper loony Christians. But the era when Christianity sought to impose itself on the entire world, at whatever cost, has thankfully passed. All religions have their moments, unfortunately.

Did you read this to understand the nuances? I am NOT repeat NOT talking about the Muslim community. I am actually quite shocked that no one here seems to know the difference.

https://www.protectuk.police.uk/threat-risk/threat-analysis/threat-islamist-terrorism

Try googling Lye near Stourbridge.

Wtf nothing she said was racist