I couldn’t sleep last night, worrying about a Reform government

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I am really worried. I think they’ll wreck the economy. I’ve got a few years left to pay off my mortgage from my job that deals with immigrants. I don’t want our pensions to tank. I don’t want my sons’ lives to be messed around. I worry about more racism, the more ‘voice’ that Reform get. I live in a very multicultural city and non-white people tell me that they are experiencing more overt racism. It makes me feel very insecure about the future.

wish Labour would do more to show that they are on the side of ordinary people as I think that’s what is driving this (I’m a Labour voter). I don’t think the creation of Your Party will help, just give Reform more advantages.

Sigh. Happy to be told I’m unreasonable as I think the future looks bleak.

Why did he do that? With absolutely nothing in return? Another failure

Do you honestly think NF would help with social cohesion?

He's not PM???

What did Johnson get in return when he negotiated the deal?

It’s the people that vote for him and as much as you think he’s fantastic many don’t.

He needs to get votes after all. If Reform get what people care about, not just a few Labour mners that is, then they will be closer to getting in next time.

This whole thread is about the hypothetical scenario that he might become PM at some point.

Oh..the bigger boy. The bigger boy made me do it!! 🤣

We were discussing Starmer though.

Do you think Starmer is now? Unlike the pp who thinks he’s ‘superb’ many are angry.

You mean good relations with the EU?

TBH, anyone could have gone and had a nice lunch with Giorgia Meloni. It’s hardly a diplomatic triumph.

And what’s happened to the ‘coalition of the willing’? We really haven’t gained anything from Starmer’s toadying around Europe.

Farage would be good at some elements of social cohesion. He certainly manages to get the criminal thugs out on the streets, cohesing away.

And I was asking about whether the alternative, in case Reform does become the main opposition party, would help with social cohesion.
Someone upthread accused Labour of fostering toxic identity politics - but Reform and similar parties abroad are the godparents of identity politics and culture wars. I don't think the country would fare better on that front with a Reform government in place.

But you want him to be so do you think he'll do a good job of uniting the country and act in the best interests of all its citizens, not just the ones that vote for him?

There were posters rallying those ludicrous ‘boots on the ground, planes in the air’ photo ops and speeches. Tg they were nonsense after all.

Nobody said he was superb. He’s far more appreciated internationally than he is at home, domestically the government is disappointing.

Ok that's a bit of a change about.what we were actually talking about at the time (starmers diplomatic skills on the international stage).but I will let you have that as I'm feeling too weak this morning to argue.

Social cohesion, Farage style.

He's appreciated internationally because all the other countries have realised that he wants to appear virtuous and if that's at the expense of Uk interests, so be it!

He's right on Ukraine though. I'll give him that. And he publically supported Zelensky after the Oval Office horror show. That was a good thing Starmer did.

For the love of God, why do none of these Reform Disciples ever give you a straight answer!

I'm not wasting another day on here with the time wasters, have to pack!

Happening with Starmer in power. Since he got in in fact. Perhaps Labour should consider what’s happening in the country they’re governing.

No need to announce your departure.. it’s not actually an airport.

Surely not by giving in to thugs though!

At last! A glimmer of objectivity. Getting the lowest tarrif rates in the world from the US is at the expense of UK interests, is it?

It’s a reaction to the increasing channel crossings and Starmer’s failure to do the ‘smash the gangs’ pledge. If Labour can’t work that out then they likely will be ousted and tbf it’s so blindingly obvious you’d wonder why they got it so wrong.

Typical. Tar anyone who is trying to stand up and protest against the fact their children are being put in danger as all "thugs". This is not going to end well and it astounds me that Labour are trying to delegitimise people's concerns. Why don't they listen? They are so far away from their founding principles and the sort of people they used to represent its astounding.