I couldn’t sleep last night, worrying about a Reform government

[Cluborange666]

I am really worried. I think they’ll wreck the economy. I’ve got a few years left to pay off my mortgage from my job that deals with immigrants. I don’t want our pensions to tank. I don’t want my sons’ lives to be messed around. I worry about more racism, the more ‘voice’ that Reform get. I live in a very multicultural city and non-white people tell me that they are experiencing more overt racism. It makes me feel very insecure about the future.

wish Labour would do more to show that they are on the side of ordinary people as I think that’s what is driving this (I’m a Labour voter). I don’t think the creation of Your Party will help, just give Reform more advantages.

Sigh. Happy to be told I’m unreasonable as I think the future looks bleak.

No..they are presumably simply friends. Like normal people. Not everyone is cynical about the motives in a friendship.

They're not 'normal people' and there's huge amounts of money at play.

Yes. And if it happens, then our major parties have only themselves to blame. 🤷‍♀️

Yes, I agree.

That's probably because Nigel F asked him to do the right thing for the UK 😉. And also because Trump loved Brexit and hates the EU. It's hardly going to be the skill of Keir Starmer and David Lammy 🤣🤣🤣

Re: Trump. Did anyone listen to Matt Frei yesterday? He was interviewing someone, some political commentator, I don't know who.

He came out with something about Trump that I have never heard before. Nothing criminal or scandalous, but something that would send some of the bigoted MAGA's into an absolute tailspin.

Strangely the person's phone connection went down right after that.

The fact that Trump loves Brexit and hates the EU tells you all there is to know about where the UK's interests truly lie. A POTUS whose agenda is 'America Only' (in fact, not even that, it's 'Trump Inc Only') is delighted with something? I'd frankly reconsider that direction because it's highly unlikely to be in our interest. Best argument for rejoin I've ever heard.

It isn't just U.S. leaders though, Starmer is also received well by his European counterparts and they are, after all, our immediate neighbours.

Starmer’s not skilled at anything, anywhere. He’s truly a disaster and an embarrassment.

Our tariffs are lower than the EU’s because we’re not in the EU. (To be clear, I think we should be in the EU. But if there’s one silver lining it’s US tariffs.). We would never have had Canadian or Mexican or Chinese levels of tariffs because we’re neither a neighbouring country nor a big exporter of goods to the US.

This is nothing to do with Starmer.

Of course you’re right. There’s no reason to hit the U.K. with harder tariffs.

But your point proves that it is to do with Starmer's diplomatic skills as we aren't in the EU and he has still forged good relations with them.

Are you being serious?

If Farage has so much sway over Trump, why was Farage left out in cold on Inaugration Day? That is just one example of when Trump has left Farage hanging around like a forlorn, love sick teenager.

I'm not a rabid Labour supporter, there are things I'm not happy with in the budget, but in Starmer's defence, NF would NEVER had forged one of the most significant strategic military alliances of the last decades: the enhanced collaboration with France on nuclear defence which was recently announced is a hugely under-reported and yet extremely important development. But every rag kept bleating on about the small boats.

Yes exactly. So Starmer wont.be the great statesman he's trying to pretend to be.

Boris Johnson was there, the only UK politician.

Trump’s never needed a reason to do anything. At least when I criticised the last government I acknowledged the things they got right. The wilful blindness to reality and lack of objectivity of Starmer’s critics is really disturbing.

I did do a wink sign after my statement just to see if anyone would go for it. Mumsnet never disappoints.

Politics is understanding what people care about. Starmer isn’t doing that very well.

Politics is doing what’s right for the country. Internationally he’s doing that superbly.

Yes, it is funny. Trump is obviously quite forgiving, given what Johnson has said about him in the past. And of course Johnson sways with the wind.

The EU known that Starmer will do anything including shafting the UK to get back in. He's just given away our fishing rights for no particular reason just so they are nice to him.

He didn’t do any such thing. He extended the term of the existing fishing rights - the ones Johnson negotiated.

Shame he's not interested in the implosion of the UK domestically. He won't have a country to grandstand to the world from.

Glad I lived up to the standard you expect! Also very pleased that you weren't serious.

He's not given away any rights though- he's only extended an existing deal which was about to expire.