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To feel like DIL wants the money but not a relationship with us?

475 replies

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 14:43

My son and his wife have three children under 10. Over the years, my husband and I have supported them financially in many ways: we gave them a substantial deposit for their house, paid for years of nursery fees, gifted him a larger car when their family grew (as a result they own a car each), helped with holidays, and pay for 2 of the children’s private school, among other things.

We’ve always said we’re happy to support our children. We do it because we want our children to live a comfortable life, not expecting anything in return. But as a family we are close, and have always had a warm relationship. We’ve done the same for one of our daughters, who has two children and stays at home full-time. In her case, we help with monthly expenses so she doesn’t have to return to work. She’s warm, appreciative, involves us in her day-to-day life, and we feel like we’re part of their family.

My DIL, however, is a different story. She also wants to be a stay-at-home mum — but my son prefers that she keeps working part-time. He’s said she struggled quite badly with her mental health when she was home full-time during maternity leave (she’s admitted to this too), and that the structure and balance of part-time work is healthier for both of them. During each of her maternity leaves he said they’d argue far more and came close to divorce on a couple of occasions.

That said, she’s made it clear more than once that she expected us to step in financially so she could stop working, like our daughter has. She’s asked outright. We said no, kindly but firmly, because it’s not in our son’s interests. We’ve supported them in many other ways, but we’ve never agreed to fully fund a lifestyle that our own son isn’t comfortable with.

Since then, the tone with her has changed. She’s polite when we see each other, but cold. I’m never invited over unless my son arranges it (which is fine - we’re his family), but even then occasionally after he’s arranged it I’ll get a message or call giving me exact times when I have to leave. This isn’t at all like my son and I know by his voice this isn’t coming from him and he feels uncomfortable with the tight rules and restrictions on when his parents can visit. If I offer to babysit, she’s “already asked her mum.”, although she’s also mentioned her mum finds babysitting hard and has asked my son to pay for a regular babysitter or nanny during the week so she can have time off. If I drop things off for the kids, she’s stiff and awkward, like I’ve overstepped. She makes passive comments “well, some mums get to be at home”. Her own mum lives further away but is at their house far more often than I am.

There are other things too. My daughter (who is close to my son) told me he actually got into trouble recently for taking the children to see us one Saturday while DIL was out with a friend. She’d apparently told him she wanted him to spend the day “just with the kids,” as if including their grandparents somehow made it less valid.

And one incident still sits badly with me. I had pre-arranged a quick Sunday morning visit, brought pastries which they’ve previously liked, and while she was polite, as I left, I clearly heard her say: “I just don’t want them getting used to seeing her this often.” For context: we live 15 minutes away, and I see the children once a week for a few hours, sometimes less.

It’s honestly got me to the point where I’m thinking about taking the kids and my son to Disney for a long weekend. I’d pay for the trip — hotel, park tickets, travel — and I’d invite her along if she wants to come, but she’d need to cover her own costs. If she thinks she sees too much of me, I don’t want to impose. I was going to position it as “you deserve a break!” but truthfully, I just feel worn down. If I’m not wanted in the day-to-day, maybe I’ll put my energy into the bits where I am welcome.

AIBU to feel like she wants the benefits of having generous in-laws — without actually having to deal with us? I’ve never overstepped, I’ve never criticised her parenting, I’ve done everything “right”… and I still feel like I’m being treated as a bit of a problem.

OP posts:
TryingAgainAgainAgain · 26/07/2025 18:56

You've "overstepped" in practically every sentence of your OP, and I'm sure it's the same in RL.

It's hard to tell if she's unreasonable, because you are so clearly utterly unreasonable in your attitude to her, your son, their kids, and their marriage.

Thatsalineallright · 26/07/2025 19:07

MrsSunshine2b · 26/07/2025 18:34

Because she's paying for one set of grandchildren to have a SAHM and not the other, and because she's inserting herself into the marriage by deliberately tailoring the financial support to ensure DIL has to work, as her son wants.

To give an example on a smaller scale, my parents inherited a TV when my grandparents died. They had never used it and it was boxed up in the garage for a few months. Our TV broke, and I asked if we could have the TV in the garage. My Mum said no because she didn't agree with us letting DD watch TV and thought if we didn't have one we wouldn't be able to let DD watch TV. We went out and bought a TV, the other one is still rotting away in the garage. We still let DD watch TV.

We weren't entitled to the TV, it didn't belong to us, the point was that my Mum tried to use the TV to control an aspect of our parenting which was not up to her to control.

I see it as the OP giving her DD money. Her DD has decided to use it to be a SAHM.

The OP has given her DS money. He has decided not to use it to allow his wife to be a SAHM.

It would be very strange imo for a MIL to give her DIL (or SIL) money directly. The money goes to the son or daughter and then together with their spouses they decide what to do with it.

CaptainSevenofNine · 26/07/2025 19:10

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 15:06

@tattychickenthe thing is, of course my children are dearer to me than a DIL or a SIL. Isn’t that obvious to any mother? Your child is your child.
she seems to tell him what he can and can’t do quite a lot, so I would guess she does have a voice?
regarding the time when he came to see us, he frequently has the kids alone and just spends time with them alone, but equally sometimes he will come to see us. Definitely not every time, far from it.

My MIL treated me exactly the same as her daughter and her son (my DH). She was the most wonderful woman. I miss her so much. (She died in 2019). The way she loved me and her grandchildren was so special.
When DH proposed she wrote me a lovely long letter (which I still have) saying how happy I’d made her and how good I was for her son. That she had hoped we’d get married. That she promised to treat me as a daughter. She stuck up for me with my Dad (he wasn’t very nice to me often). My mum had died a long time ago.

She loved me no differently to the way she loved her children.

Her last words to me in the hospice (I’m paraphrasing) were that she loved me so much, she loved our little family and she was grateful that I had joined her family.

So no, it’s not obvious that you might love in laws differently to blood family.

I loved my MIL the way I loved my favourite family. Thankfully my favourite family loved my MIL the same way too.

cremedelacraps · 26/07/2025 19:12

@TealScroller it's really common to have gps pay school fees, pay for houses in certain circles.

MrsSunshine2b · 26/07/2025 19:14

Thatsalineallright · 26/07/2025 19:07

I see it as the OP giving her DD money. Her DD has decided to use it to be a SAHM.

The OP has given her DS money. He has decided not to use it to allow his wife to be a SAHM.

It would be very strange imo for a MIL to give her DIL (or SIL) money directly. The money goes to the son or daughter and then together with their spouses they decide what to do with it.

I don't know if the amount she gives to both is equal, maybe it is, but the fact is that she's been open about the fact she thinks DD should be able to choose to be a SAHM, but DIL shouldn't be allowed to be a SAHM. This argument should be entirely between her son and DIL and she shouldn't even have an opinion.

Personally I've never wanted to be a SAHM but if I had 3 kids and we had enough money for me to comfortably be able to give up work, but my husband had the nerve to forbid me from doing so for the good of my mental health, he'd get very short shrift- and if my MIL got involved then my relationship with her would be dead in the water.

nearlylovemyusername · 26/07/2025 19:15

Housekeeper??? she works part time for play money and has a housekeeper?? and wants to stop working at all?

nearlylovemyusername · 26/07/2025 19:19

MrsSunshine2b · 26/07/2025 19:14

I don't know if the amount she gives to both is equal, maybe it is, but the fact is that she's been open about the fact she thinks DD should be able to choose to be a SAHM, but DIL shouldn't be allowed to be a SAHM. This argument should be entirely between her son and DIL and she shouldn't even have an opinion.

Personally I've never wanted to be a SAHM but if I had 3 kids and we had enough money for me to comfortably be able to give up work, but my husband had the nerve to forbid me from doing so for the good of my mental health, he'd get very short shrift- and if my MIL got involved then my relationship with her would be dead in the water.

I wonder what you'd do if your DH in this hypothetical situation decided enough is enough and filed for divorce? It doesn't sound like OP's DIL is independently wealthy. And one of the reasons for OP's DS not wanting her to be SAHM is her earning potential in case of divorce, so she can't claim full dependency.

DoraSpenlow · 26/07/2025 19:20

If anyone has a gripe it should surely be the OPs son who isn't being paid to stop at home like his sister.

I'm sure the reaction would be totally different if it was the son-in-law asking to be paid to not work while the daughter worked.

rainingsnoring · 26/07/2025 19:28

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 18:29

It is a full time job, the amount of cleaning and errands needed for a family of five is not for the faint hearted

Sorry if you have to work, but not all women must be forced to do this

Being a SAHP isn't a full time job once all the DC are in school. This couple also have a 'housekeeper'. If a SAHP can't manage to do the housework and errands needed in the 35 hours when the DC are in school, they are very disorganised.

Squishymallows · 26/07/2025 19:44

TomatoSandwiches · 26/07/2025 14:59

Your son doesnt sound very supportive of her tbh, she sounds resentful of him, how often is he doing childcare with running to you?

This is exactly what I read in this post. I bet he doesn’t spend any 1:1 time with his kids and if he ever has to have them by himself he uses grandparents to do the parenting. So that’s not her not wanting them to see you, it’s her wanting her husband to actually parent solo for a change

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 19:45

rainingsnoring · 26/07/2025 19:28

Being a SAHP isn't a full time job once all the DC are in school. This couple also have a 'housekeeper'. If a SAHP can't manage to do the housework and errands needed in the 35 hours when the DC are in school, they are very disorganised.

My dd is in school for under 30 hours

Its a full time job, whether theyre at school or at home. During the day is when the errands get done and the house is tidied, meals prepped, laundry put in the machine, out of the machine, ironed and put away, food shop done, returns to the post office, emergency kids clothes shopping, the list is endless

And thats all before they come out at 3pm and you've to do the drive home, homework, snack, then cook dinner for them, you and your dp, bathtime, actually play with your kids, read to them and then try to get them to sleep

Then talk to your dp about their day, provide emotional support, ensure theyre fed and happy before you can think about going to bed

And then its full on during the weekends as well

Being a sahm is a full time job. And the luckiest ones have housekeepers, be in awe instead of jealous, imo

Squishymallows · 26/07/2025 19:50

thepariscrimefiles · 26/07/2025 15:16

You seem to want to control your adult children by using your obviously significant wealth to facilitate their lifestyles. I can understand helping them with house deposits, but you are paying for nursery and private school, cars and holidays. Your DIL is unreasonable to expect you to facilitate her being a SAHM, but I'm not sure why you do this for your daughter either.

Your plan to exclude your DIL from a family holiday to Disney unless she pays for herself will be the final nail in the coffin of your relationship with her and possibly the end of your son's marriage if he agrees with what you are doing.

No-one in your family comes out of this looking good. It's all very materialistic and transactional.

Couldn’t agree more

SchoolDilemma17 · 26/07/2025 19:55

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 19:45

My dd is in school for under 30 hours

Its a full time job, whether theyre at school or at home. During the day is when the errands get done and the house is tidied, meals prepped, laundry put in the machine, out of the machine, ironed and put away, food shop done, returns to the post office, emergency kids clothes shopping, the list is endless

And thats all before they come out at 3pm and you've to do the drive home, homework, snack, then cook dinner for them, you and your dp, bathtime, actually play with your kids, read to them and then try to get them to sleep

Then talk to your dp about their day, provide emotional support, ensure theyre fed and happy before you can think about going to bed

And then its full on during the weekends as well

Being a sahm is a full time job. And the luckiest ones have housekeepers, be in awe instead of jealous, imo

And most of us do all this and have a FT job 😝

WhereYouLeftIt · 26/07/2025 19:58

@youreactinglikeafunmum, are you the OP's DIL?

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 19:59

SchoolDilemma17 · 26/07/2025 19:55

And most of us do all this and have a FT job 😝

Agreed, its not easy and should be commended taking on both work and home loads. Single mothers who do both with zero help are heroic to me and deserve adequate support

But it is a full time job 🤷‍♀️

dottiedodah · 26/07/2025 19:59

TBH I feel that you are being generous but there are strings attached. I don't really think funding your DD choice to stay home is very fair.your DIL sees her SIL having the life she wants. When you marry the DIL or SIl becomes part of your family. You are making a clear division between your DC lives . I also would be careful how much you are spending. My cousin who is very wealthy. Husband has had to go to full time care .costs 50k per year!don't leave your selves short.the Disney trip is crazy.pleas don't do this. Maybe say to DD it would be good for her to return PT.if they divorce for any reason she is going to be in dodgy position. Your DIL is going to be come resentful if you aren't careful .she is your grandchildren mother!

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 20:00

WhereYouLeftIt · 26/07/2025 19:58

@youreactinglikeafunmum, are you the OP's DIL?

😄😄 no but a husband who is strong and wants to take care of me while I take care of our house and kids is my idea of heaven!

The op's son is far too babyish for me, sorry, I wouldn't be able to get it up enough to even have his kids

RoseAlone · 26/07/2025 20:09

Honestly? I feel sorry for her. It sounds as though her life is planned out authorised or not, by your son and you. She's in a horrible position and I bet you've overstepped and passively aggressively criticised her plenty of times. Your terms and conditions of your financial support are clearly communicated whether you think so or not and if she doesn't toe the line then your wrath is felt by that support being withdrawn or not offered in the first place.

If I was her, I'd take the children and leave. What an awful, toxic situation you've created. You use your money as a weapon which is mean and nasty.

FamBae · 26/07/2025 20:10

Sorry if this has been suggested, so many comments and I haven't read them all. But could you not put a different spin on this and explain to your ds and dil that with the private school fees, nursery fees, house deposit, car etc. that they have had equally the same amount of financial help as your dd receives, and that your can't extend your help any further.
And for goodness sake offer to take them all to Disneyland to mend bridges.

saraclara · 26/07/2025 20:15

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 18:38

What???? 😭😭 no-one said youre not British, you brought up being in the UK

She deserves a husband who will ensure her needs are met, like his are.

FFS, being a SAHM (with a housekeeper!) is not a need. It's a very self indulgent want, at best.

saraclara · 26/07/2025 20:17

She's in a horrible position

😂

saraclara · 26/07/2025 20:18

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 19:45

My dd is in school for under 30 hours

Its a full time job, whether theyre at school or at home. During the day is when the errands get done and the house is tidied, meals prepped, laundry put in the machine, out of the machine, ironed and put away, food shop done, returns to the post office, emergency kids clothes shopping, the list is endless

And thats all before they come out at 3pm and you've to do the drive home, homework, snack, then cook dinner for them, you and your dp, bathtime, actually play with your kids, read to them and then try to get them to sleep

Then talk to your dp about their day, provide emotional support, ensure theyre fed and happy before you can think about going to bed

And then its full on during the weekends as well

Being a sahm is a full time job. And the luckiest ones have housekeepers, be in awe instead of jealous, imo

It's this satire? Because surely it can't be real.

iseethembloom · 26/07/2025 20:35

She’s just enormously jealous of your daughter, who doesn’t have to work.

If she wants to be bankrolled to the extent she doesn’t need to work, let her parents fund it.

Subsidising kids well into adulthood causes many problems, as you’re discovering. Perhaps let them fund their lives themselves?

nearlylovemyusername · 26/07/2025 20:41

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 19:45

My dd is in school for under 30 hours

Its a full time job, whether theyre at school or at home. During the day is when the errands get done and the house is tidied, meals prepped, laundry put in the machine, out of the machine, ironed and put away, food shop done, returns to the post office, emergency kids clothes shopping, the list is endless

And thats all before they come out at 3pm and you've to do the drive home, homework, snack, then cook dinner for them, you and your dp, bathtime, actually play with your kids, read to them and then try to get them to sleep

Then talk to your dp about their day, provide emotional support, ensure theyre fed and happy before you can think about going to bed

And then its full on during the weekends as well

Being a sahm is a full time job. And the luckiest ones have housekeepers, be in awe instead of jealous, imo

I did this all with my DC and worked at least 50 hours a week for decades.

Praying4Peace · 26/07/2025 20:42

NotrialNodeal · 26/07/2025 14:55

Wow she has such a cheek to ask you of anything! I cannot believe the audacity! You owe her nothing and yet despite the huge financial help you have provided to your son and her and their children she has the brass neck to ask for more and then be cold with you. I cannot believe how entitled she is. Unbelievable. I'm raging for you!

This
The challenges of being the paternal grandmother.
Daughter in law is being extremely unfair and totally unappreciative

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