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To feel like DIL wants the money but not a relationship with us?

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grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 14:43

My son and his wife have three children under 10. Over the years, my husband and I have supported them financially in many ways: we gave them a substantial deposit for their house, paid for years of nursery fees, gifted him a larger car when their family grew (as a result they own a car each), helped with holidays, and pay for 2 of the children’s private school, among other things.

We’ve always said we’re happy to support our children. We do it because we want our children to live a comfortable life, not expecting anything in return. But as a family we are close, and have always had a warm relationship. We’ve done the same for one of our daughters, who has two children and stays at home full-time. In her case, we help with monthly expenses so she doesn’t have to return to work. She’s warm, appreciative, involves us in her day-to-day life, and we feel like we’re part of their family.

My DIL, however, is a different story. She also wants to be a stay-at-home mum — but my son prefers that she keeps working part-time. He’s said she struggled quite badly with her mental health when she was home full-time during maternity leave (she’s admitted to this too), and that the structure and balance of part-time work is healthier for both of them. During each of her maternity leaves he said they’d argue far more and came close to divorce on a couple of occasions.

That said, she’s made it clear more than once that she expected us to step in financially so she could stop working, like our daughter has. She’s asked outright. We said no, kindly but firmly, because it’s not in our son’s interests. We’ve supported them in many other ways, but we’ve never agreed to fully fund a lifestyle that our own son isn’t comfortable with.

Since then, the tone with her has changed. She’s polite when we see each other, but cold. I’m never invited over unless my son arranges it (which is fine - we’re his family), but even then occasionally after he’s arranged it I’ll get a message or call giving me exact times when I have to leave. This isn’t at all like my son and I know by his voice this isn’t coming from him and he feels uncomfortable with the tight rules and restrictions on when his parents can visit. If I offer to babysit, she’s “already asked her mum.”, although she’s also mentioned her mum finds babysitting hard and has asked my son to pay for a regular babysitter or nanny during the week so she can have time off. If I drop things off for the kids, she’s stiff and awkward, like I’ve overstepped. She makes passive comments “well, some mums get to be at home”. Her own mum lives further away but is at their house far more often than I am.

There are other things too. My daughter (who is close to my son) told me he actually got into trouble recently for taking the children to see us one Saturday while DIL was out with a friend. She’d apparently told him she wanted him to spend the day “just with the kids,” as if including their grandparents somehow made it less valid.

And one incident still sits badly with me. I had pre-arranged a quick Sunday morning visit, brought pastries which they’ve previously liked, and while she was polite, as I left, I clearly heard her say: “I just don’t want them getting used to seeing her this often.” For context: we live 15 minutes away, and I see the children once a week for a few hours, sometimes less.

It’s honestly got me to the point where I’m thinking about taking the kids and my son to Disney for a long weekend. I’d pay for the trip — hotel, park tickets, travel — and I’d invite her along if she wants to come, but she’d need to cover her own costs. If she thinks she sees too much of me, I don’t want to impose. I was going to position it as “you deserve a break!” but truthfully, I just feel worn down. If I’m not wanted in the day-to-day, maybe I’ll put my energy into the bits where I am welcome.

AIBU to feel like she wants the benefits of having generous in-laws — without actually having to deal with us? I’ve never overstepped, I’ve never criticised her parenting, I’ve done everything “right”… and I still feel like I’m being treated as a bit of a problem.

OP posts:
NorthXNorthWest · 26/07/2025 18:05

BIossomtoes · 26/07/2025 17:38

How is he forcing her to work? They can clearly afford for her not to. If she handed in her notice what could he do about it?

If it were my son, I would hope he would divorce her. That is not a partnership.

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 26/07/2025 18:08

EmeraldShamrock000 · 26/07/2025 17:49

Very often hardworking parents raise very entitled DC, who have no drive.

See it all the time…
never had to work hard and wait for things as all on a plate
spoilt , entitled little brats.

Busybeemumm · 26/07/2025 18:09

If you support your children financially then your should do so without any expectations in return.

rainingsnoring · 26/07/2025 18:09

Why are you using your obvious wealth to fund your adult DC's lifestyle to such an extent @grannyhasaq?
It doesn't seem to be having a positive effect on at least one of the families. I can understand gifting house deposits and helping if they are having a hard time with low incomes, ill health, etc but this family sound very comfortably off already if her salary is essentially just for to have fun with, despite having 3 children.
You are causing dependency, are encouraging them to spend significantly above their means, are possibly using £££ to control them (unclear) and have also bred entitlement in your DIL. Your DIL sounds horribly ungrateful and rude but perhaps there is some resentment here because you have used money to try to control them. It's impossible to be sure.
Perhaps you should speak to your son about withdrawing financial support and see what he says. Their relationship is their business but it doesn't sound as if the marriage is in a great place. Perhaps he is angered by her entitled attitude to his parents's money. I certainly would be if my DH had the cheek to ask my parents to fund his SAHP lifestyle if they had already given so much and continued to do so.

carrotcakeagain · 26/07/2025 18:09

This, then the couple make their own decisions and you are not to blame. I am thinking it’s possible your DIL might have had post Natal depression after her births. Also 3 children under 10 is a lot. I would want to stay home too if there was a choice.

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 26/07/2025 18:10

tinyspiny · 26/07/2025 18:02

You have an unhealthy level of financial input and control of your adult children’s lives . I’m amazed that your children’s partners are prepared to accept such an input as most normal people would not want to be in that position .

Utterly beggars belief doesn’t it

I’d rather eat glass than go cap in hand to DP’s or DIL’s

rainingsnoring · 26/07/2025 18:11

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 26/07/2025 18:08

See it all the time…
never had to work hard and wait for things as all on a plate
spoilt , entitled little brats.

That is true. It seems quite common, although isn't always the case. Giving your DC too much with no expectations is not a good thing at all.

TheGentleButFirmMadonna · 26/07/2025 18:12

OK you are very very rich to be able to just fund households ....your dil cannot force money off your hand. You decide. Is it you or your husband because seems your female relatives all rely on their men to tell them to be home or go to work. They've seen it somewhere, how's your husband towards you. Have you ever worked in your life or is it all due to the big salary your husband had when he was working;

How about your own household ? All sorted, poa , wills, etc

Keep some money for your care if you need it

wizzywig · 26/07/2025 18:12

Wow you are so generous with your children. They are very lucky to have you

MikeRafone · 26/07/2025 18:12

She’s warm, appreciative, involves us in her day-to-day life, and we feel like we’re part of their family.

what has this got to do with anything if you don't want anything in return? The fact you mention it goes someway to not believing that you don't want appreciation or to be involved in their day to day lives

BlossomOfOrange · 26/07/2025 18:13

Not read the whole thread but I think you need to separate your ‘happy’ feelings you say you have towards contributing towards family payments and your relationship with your dil and your ds. What can you do to improve your relationship with each of them?

Greendino20 · 26/07/2025 18:14

Your son sounds like a nasty, controlling man child who sponges off his parents. In terms of co controlling, the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree by the sounds of things. I’d be saving your money for a good lawyer as this marriage is heading for divorce.

Thatsalineallright · 26/07/2025 18:16

Nogg · 26/07/2025 17:31

I haven’t read the comments. You sound over involved giving money to stay and control your kids. Give money yes but not like your doing. Supporting your daughter to be a SAHM? If I was the DIL I wouldn’t resent you too.

The equivalent to supporting her DD to be a SAHM is to support her son to be a SAHD. It is not to give money to an in-law.

TheGentleButFirmMadonna · 26/07/2025 18:18

Greendino20 · 26/07/2025 18:14

Your son sounds like a nasty, controlling man child who sponges off his parents. In terms of co controlling, the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree by the sounds of things. I’d be saving your money for a good lawyer as this marriage is heading for divorce.

It's her daughter, not son who is taking a whole salary in order to be stay at home from her two wealthy pensioners

Thatsalineallright · 26/07/2025 18:18

MikeRafone · 26/07/2025 18:12

She’s warm, appreciative, involves us in her day-to-day life, and we feel like we’re part of their family.

what has this got to do with anything if you don't want anything in return? The fact you mention it goes someway to not believing that you don't want appreciation or to be involved in their day to day lives

Who doesn't want family to be warm and appreciative? Even with a tiny favour like picking something up from the shops, I still want a smile and a thank you! Anything else is just rude.

MikeRafone · 26/07/2025 18:21

Thatsalineallright · 26/07/2025 18:18

Who doesn't want family to be warm and appreciative? Even with a tiny favour like picking something up from the shops, I still want a smile and a thank you! Anything else is just rude.

Op states she doesn't want anything from DIL, I agree most people do want appreciation when they hand over money - so why `op states she doesn't want anything and expects to be believed, I don't know

Thatsalineallright · 26/07/2025 18:21

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 26/07/2025 18:10

Utterly beggars belief doesn’t it

I’d rather eat glass than go cap in hand to DP’s or DIL’s

Which is why I don't understand all the posters siding with the DIL. This is a woman who point-blank asked the OP to fund her SAHM lifestyle.

Giving money as a gift is one thing, having money demanded from you is quite another.

I have zero sympathy for such a grasping, entitled DIL.

Thatsalineallright · 26/07/2025 18:24

MikeRafone · 26/07/2025 18:21

Op states she doesn't want anything from DIL, I agree most people do want appreciation when they hand over money - so why `op states she doesn't want anything and expects to be believed, I don't know

I'm assuming she means she doesn't want anything beyond the basic smile and a thank you. Being polite, treating her like family, encouraging a good relationship with the grandkids - these are all things the DIL should be doing with our without any money on the table. Sure, DIL's side of the story might be very different, but just from the OP it sounds like the DIL is the one being unreasonable.

saraclara · 26/07/2025 18:26

TheGentleButFirmMadonna · 26/07/2025 18:18

It's her daughter, not son who is taking a whole salary in order to be stay at home from her two wealthy pensioners

Nowhere does it say that DD takes a whole salary. In fact she doesn't take any wage from OP. OP pays some bills to take the pressure off her so that she can be a SAHM.

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 18:26

HoskinsChoice · 26/07/2025 18:01

Well two of them are school age and mummy & daddy are funding nursery and god knows what else so, yes, sitting on her arse! Even without the help, there's plenty of people with kids who work full time.

There's taking care of the house, running errands and looking after the youngest- its a full time job! And then there's pick up and drop off

Women are so awful sometimes, just because you have to work, doesn't mean that another woman must work too

budgiegirl · 26/07/2025 18:26

It's hard to say, when we don't know you, and we don't know your son and DIL.

But honestly, if you are funding your daughter and her family to have a SAHM, but are refusing to do the same for your son and his family, I think I would be a bit resentful too if I were her. I'd also be quite resentful of my husband if the reason that you weren't funding it was because he'd made the decision for me.

The whole thing sounds quite unhealthy, you are very financially enmeshed in their lives. It's one thing to offer to pay for school fees for any grandchildren, buy a car as and when needed etc, but to fund a whole lifestyle for one family and refuse to do it for the other? While you are very generous, and I'm sure coming from a good place, I can see why it might sting for the DIL.

Would you have refused to fund your daughter's wish to become a SAHM if her husband had said no?

BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 26/07/2025 18:27

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 18:26

There's taking care of the house, running errands and looking after the youngest- its a full time job! And then there's pick up and drop off

Women are so awful sometimes, just because you have to work, doesn't mean that another woman must work too

And those people who work have to do that as well…

It’s certainly not a full time job once the kids are in school!

rainingsnoring · 26/07/2025 18:28

Thatsalineallright · 26/07/2025 18:16

The equivalent to supporting her DD to be a SAHM is to support her son to be a SAHD. It is not to give money to an in-law.

That is true. If equality was what the DIL wanted, she may have suggested this instead. As it is, she sounds v entitled and ungrateful. They are v fortunate to be having so many of their expenses covered by the grandparents. If she is concerned about control on the OP's part, perhaps she should request that financial support is withdrawn. It may well be the best thing all round.

FlushedAwayy · 26/07/2025 18:29

It’s honestly got me to the point where I’m thinking about taking the kids and my son to Disney for a long weekend. I’d pay for the trip — hotel, park tickets, travel — and I’d invite her along if she wants to come, but she’d need to cover her own costs

irregardless of the rest of your post if you told me you were taking my kids anywhere and I could come if I wanted, they certainly wouldn’t be going anywhere with you!

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 18:29

BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 26/07/2025 18:27

And those people who work have to do that as well…

It’s certainly not a full time job once the kids are in school!

It is a full time job, the amount of cleaning and errands needed for a family of five is not for the faint hearted

Sorry if you have to work, but not all women must be forced to do this

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