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To feel like DIL wants the money but not a relationship with us?

475 replies

grannyhasaq · 26/07/2025 14:43

My son and his wife have three children under 10. Over the years, my husband and I have supported them financially in many ways: we gave them a substantial deposit for their house, paid for years of nursery fees, gifted him a larger car when their family grew (as a result they own a car each), helped with holidays, and pay for 2 of the children’s private school, among other things.

We’ve always said we’re happy to support our children. We do it because we want our children to live a comfortable life, not expecting anything in return. But as a family we are close, and have always had a warm relationship. We’ve done the same for one of our daughters, who has two children and stays at home full-time. In her case, we help with monthly expenses so she doesn’t have to return to work. She’s warm, appreciative, involves us in her day-to-day life, and we feel like we’re part of their family.

My DIL, however, is a different story. She also wants to be a stay-at-home mum — but my son prefers that she keeps working part-time. He’s said she struggled quite badly with her mental health when she was home full-time during maternity leave (she’s admitted to this too), and that the structure and balance of part-time work is healthier for both of them. During each of her maternity leaves he said they’d argue far more and came close to divorce on a couple of occasions.

That said, she’s made it clear more than once that she expected us to step in financially so she could stop working, like our daughter has. She’s asked outright. We said no, kindly but firmly, because it’s not in our son’s interests. We’ve supported them in many other ways, but we’ve never agreed to fully fund a lifestyle that our own son isn’t comfortable with.

Since then, the tone with her has changed. She’s polite when we see each other, but cold. I’m never invited over unless my son arranges it (which is fine - we’re his family), but even then occasionally after he’s arranged it I’ll get a message or call giving me exact times when I have to leave. This isn’t at all like my son and I know by his voice this isn’t coming from him and he feels uncomfortable with the tight rules and restrictions on when his parents can visit. If I offer to babysit, she’s “already asked her mum.”, although she’s also mentioned her mum finds babysitting hard and has asked my son to pay for a regular babysitter or nanny during the week so she can have time off. If I drop things off for the kids, she’s stiff and awkward, like I’ve overstepped. She makes passive comments “well, some mums get to be at home”. Her own mum lives further away but is at their house far more often than I am.

There are other things too. My daughter (who is close to my son) told me he actually got into trouble recently for taking the children to see us one Saturday while DIL was out with a friend. She’d apparently told him she wanted him to spend the day “just with the kids,” as if including their grandparents somehow made it less valid.

And one incident still sits badly with me. I had pre-arranged a quick Sunday morning visit, brought pastries which they’ve previously liked, and while she was polite, as I left, I clearly heard her say: “I just don’t want them getting used to seeing her this often.” For context: we live 15 minutes away, and I see the children once a week for a few hours, sometimes less.

It’s honestly got me to the point where I’m thinking about taking the kids and my son to Disney for a long weekend. I’d pay for the trip — hotel, park tickets, travel — and I’d invite her along if she wants to come, but she’d need to cover her own costs. If she thinks she sees too much of me, I don’t want to impose. I was going to position it as “you deserve a break!” but truthfully, I just feel worn down. If I’m not wanted in the day-to-day, maybe I’ll put my energy into the bits where I am welcome.

AIBU to feel like she wants the benefits of having generous in-laws — without actually having to deal with us? I’ve never overstepped, I’ve never criticised her parenting, I’ve done everything “right”… and I still feel like I’m being treated as a bit of a problem.

OP posts:
Borracha · 26/07/2025 18:29

Honestly, you all just seem way too involved in each others lives. Of course it’s natural to want to help your children, but this is way too much.

The idea of still getting an allowance from my parents so I don’t have to work makes me cringe.

ZoomingSusan · 26/07/2025 18:30

Anunusualone · 26/07/2025 14:51

It’s honestly got me to the point where I’m thinking about taking the kids and my son to Disney for a long weekend. I’d pay for the trip — hotel, park tickets, travel — and I’d invite her along if she wants to come, but she’d need to cover her own costs

please say you’re joking

and IF your son accepted this offer, you should be utterly ashamed of him.

I wouldn’t want you within a 5 mile radius of my children in your DIL’s shoes

Quite agree. Don’t do that!! Try to sort out what the resentment and edginess is about. Things are not ok here.

TheAutumnCrow · 26/07/2025 18:30

Hey, OP, it’s you! I wondered where you’d got to.

WhereYouLeftIt · 26/07/2025 18:31

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 18:26

There's taking care of the house, running errands and looking after the youngest- its a full time job! And then there's pick up and drop off

Women are so awful sometimes, just because you have to work, doesn't mean that another woman must work too

did you miss that OP's son's salary pays for a housekeeper? So that's a substantial amount of time and effort that OP's DIL doesn't have to expend.

(Yes, there's still the mental load, but it's not really as taxing as doing the work yourself, is it?)

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 26/07/2025 18:32

Thatsalineallright · 26/07/2025 18:21

Which is why I don't understand all the posters siding with the DIL. This is a woman who point-blank asked the OP to fund her SAHM lifestyle.

Giving money as a gift is one thing, having money demanded from you is quite another.

I have zero sympathy for such a grasping, entitled DIL.

Edited

Or a DD a DS or a SonIL (God- can you imagine where his pride must be - totally subterranean !!) - awful parasitic behaviour…

Marieb19 · 26/07/2025 18:32

I think your Disneyland idea comes across very poorly. But your Dil's behaviour also comes up short. The person who could make a difference in your relationship is your son. He could invite you over,vor visit more. He doesn't have to gave his wife's permission. Are you sure the lack of engagement is all down to your DIL. If you are unhappy with the way you are being treated and by the sound of it you are and have cause to be, then turn off the money tap and tell them why.

Snorlaxo · 26/07/2025 18:32

Like a pp said, you wouldn’t be in this mess if you gave both children a fixed amount and told them to do whatever they wanted with the money but not ask for any more. By paying for specific bills like allowing your Dd to stay home, you have inadvertently made yourself the bad guy when you’re following your son’s wishes instead. It’s easier for DIL to blame you because she isn’t married to you.

BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 26/07/2025 18:32

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 18:29

It is a full time job, the amount of cleaning and errands needed for a family of five is not for the faint hearted

Sorry if you have to work, but not all women must be forced to do this

And plenty of women have families of 5 and still work.

Why shouldn’t women work? We’re not delicate little flowers who need menfolk to look after us.

If BOTH people in a relationship decides that it works better for one person in the family not to work (which could equally well be the man; doesn’t have to be the woman as the SAHP), then fine. But both people have an equal responsibility to both bring in money and do the chores, unless otherwise agreed between them.

Robin67 · 26/07/2025 18:33

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 17:36

Not all British families want to have a woman who works - some expect to stay home and raise their babies while their husband works

It may not be for everyone but its certainly not laughable

This woman is clear on what she wants, her man is being weird while he gets handouts from his parents and badmouths his wife to them

She deserves better

Why do you think I am not British? But thanks for explaining the values of my country of birth to me.

The handouts are things that they both benefit from, as do their children.

She is the one asking for more handouts and he is the one trying to draw a line.

She is already living a lifestyle which far outstrips what she actually earns or what she is willing to work to achieve.

In what world is she going to get better than this set-up?

Please can you elaborate on how she deserves better? Does she do charity work that only you know about? Is she an altruistic kidney donor? Does she stay awake at night baking cookies for the homeless? Is your position; that all women deserve to be a SAHM and all husbands must provide this?

MrsSunshine2b · 26/07/2025 18:34

Thatsalineallright · 26/07/2025 18:21

Which is why I don't understand all the posters siding with the DIL. This is a woman who point-blank asked the OP to fund her SAHM lifestyle.

Giving money as a gift is one thing, having money demanded from you is quite another.

I have zero sympathy for such a grasping, entitled DIL.

Edited

Because she's paying for one set of grandchildren to have a SAHM and not the other, and because she's inserting herself into the marriage by deliberately tailoring the financial support to ensure DIL has to work, as her son wants.

To give an example on a smaller scale, my parents inherited a TV when my grandparents died. They had never used it and it was boxed up in the garage for a few months. Our TV broke, and I asked if we could have the TV in the garage. My Mum said no because she didn't agree with us letting DD watch TV and thought if we didn't have one we wouldn't be able to let DD watch TV. We went out and bought a TV, the other one is still rotting away in the garage. We still let DD watch TV.

We weren't entitled to the TV, it didn't belong to us, the point was that my Mum tried to use the TV to control an aspect of our parenting which was not up to her to control.

declutteringmymind · 26/07/2025 18:34

She has a DH problem. Ie. He wants her to carry on working (for understandable reasons) and she is blaming you for that.

if anything I would pay for him to stay home. If she wants to give work, her mother can fund it, or come to an agreement with her husband.

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 18:36

WhereYouLeftIt · 26/07/2025 18:31

did you miss that OP's son's salary pays for a housekeeper? So that's a substantial amount of time and effort that OP's DIL doesn't have to expend.

(Yes, there's still the mental load, but it's not really as taxing as doing the work yourself, is it?)

I said that she should quit and sack off the home help

Sack off was very casual, I would politely end their employment

Even with a housekeeper, sahm life is taxing and should be made easier with help 🤷‍♀️

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 18:37

BlueyNeedsToFuckOff · 26/07/2025 18:32

And plenty of women have families of 5 and still work.

Why shouldn’t women work? We’re not delicate little flowers who need menfolk to look after us.

If BOTH people in a relationship decides that it works better for one person in the family not to work (which could equally well be the man; doesn’t have to be the woman as the SAHP), then fine. But both people have an equal responsibility to both bring in money and do the chores, unless otherwise agreed between them.

Some people want to work. Some dont

Some are forced to by life circumstances but thats not really part of the equation here

Just because Some women are forced to work by their circumstances, doesn't mean that all women should be forced to 🙄

Very much 'i suffer, why should she be happy'

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 18:38

Robin67 · 26/07/2025 18:33

Why do you think I am not British? But thanks for explaining the values of my country of birth to me.

The handouts are things that they both benefit from, as do their children.

She is the one asking for more handouts and he is the one trying to draw a line.

She is already living a lifestyle which far outstrips what she actually earns or what she is willing to work to achieve.

In what world is she going to get better than this set-up?

Please can you elaborate on how she deserves better? Does she do charity work that only you know about? Is she an altruistic kidney donor? Does she stay awake at night baking cookies for the homeless? Is your position; that all women deserve to be a SAHM and all husbands must provide this?

What???? 😭😭 no-one said youre not British, you brought up being in the UK

She deserves a husband who will ensure her needs are met, like his are.

LovingLimePeer · 26/07/2025 18:39

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 18:29

It is a full time job, the amount of cleaning and errands needed for a family of five is not for the faint hearted

Sorry if you have to work, but not all women must be forced to do this

But are we really saying that all SAHMs are so completely disorganised with routine household tasks that it takes them 37.5 hours to complete routine cleaning/admin tasks, rather than the 6-8 hours it takes me for the same jobs as a working parent?

It's obviously different when children are preschoolers and at home instead of nursery but it is absolutely NOT a full time job when children are at school and the women who pretend it is a full time job must be spending their time repeatedly cleaning out the inside of their drawers/hoovering their radiators and other bulls**t tasks. All the same housework needs doing regardless of whether someone is a SAHM for schoolchildren or works when those children are at school.

MonGrainDeSel · 26/07/2025 18:39

You shouldn't be funding specific things. By all means give them money if you want to, but it should be up to them what it is spent on. The argument over whether your DIL is a SAHM should not involve you at all and should be entirely between your son and his wife.

Robin67 · 26/07/2025 18:40

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 18:37

Some people want to work. Some dont

Some are forced to by life circumstances but thats not really part of the equation here

Just because Some women are forced to work by their circumstances, doesn't mean that all women should be forced to 🙄

Very much 'i suffer, why should she be happy'

No, she can be a SAHM if they both agree. It's just not a basic human right that your in laws must fund it or you get to block access to the family.

TheGentleButFirmMadonna · 26/07/2025 18:43

PennywisePoundFoolish · 26/07/2025 15:22

The Disney plan is just awful. You say yourself it's natural to be closer to your DC than in-laws, but also don't understand why she asks her mum to babysit more than you.

Of course she can't demand you fund her to be SAHM. It reads to me that she's still struggling with her mental health and is possibly unhappy in her marriage. It doesn't sound like your son has much warmth for her, and I think she's acutely aware of how you feel about her.

I'd be stressed at the prospect of divorcing a man whose parents would fund his legal expenses.

I guess her life is a bit of gilded cage.

The mil life is also gilded cage. I'm curious to know what the old man behind all this is really like

ShallIstart · 26/07/2025 18:46

I actually didn't know people can be this entitled. Your entire family is tbh. They all sound like they are rinsing you for money. I assume you are incredibly wealthy to fund this.

Robin67 · 26/07/2025 18:46

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 18:38

What???? 😭😭 no-one said youre not British, you brought up being in the UK

She deserves a husband who will ensure her needs are met, like his are.

If his needs include not bearing the financial responsibility and having a spouse that contributes? Then what.

Reading between the lines, I suspect you are a SAHM. So have some of my friends been. I am not judging you for that. Different strokes for different folks. Despite me asking you to fund my stay at home lifestyle, in reality I am happy with my part time set up. I don't want to work full time. I don't want to give up my financial independence and I feel like I help people with my job. I have no issues with others choosing differently according to their needs and means and IRL I keep out of other people's business. But this is the internet and I do think that the dil is taking the piss and that this decision is for both of them to make. I also fully believe that mil should not have to fund this. Even if she does it for her own daughter.

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 18:49

Robin67 · 26/07/2025 18:46

If his needs include not bearing the financial responsibility and having a spouse that contributes? Then what.

Reading between the lines, I suspect you are a SAHM. So have some of my friends been. I am not judging you for that. Different strokes for different folks. Despite me asking you to fund my stay at home lifestyle, in reality I am happy with my part time set up. I don't want to work full time. I don't want to give up my financial independence and I feel like I help people with my job. I have no issues with others choosing differently according to their needs and means and IRL I keep out of other people's business. But this is the internet and I do think that the dil is taking the piss and that this decision is for both of them to make. I also fully believe that mil should not have to fund this. Even if she does it for her own daughter.

Then he can ask his mum??? 😭

I like being a sahm to my dd and it is a lot of work

I never judge working mums but have no idea why people judge sahms and get so angry when a woman is one (not you, just in general)

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 18:49

LovingLimePeer · 26/07/2025 18:39

But are we really saying that all SAHMs are so completely disorganised with routine household tasks that it takes them 37.5 hours to complete routine cleaning/admin tasks, rather than the 6-8 hours it takes me for the same jobs as a working parent?

It's obviously different when children are preschoolers and at home instead of nursery but it is absolutely NOT a full time job when children are at school and the women who pretend it is a full time job must be spending their time repeatedly cleaning out the inside of their drawers/hoovering their radiators and other bulls**t tasks. All the same housework needs doing regardless of whether someone is a SAHM for schoolchildren or works when those children are at school.

Brb, off to vacuum my radiator 🥰🥰

Robin67 · 26/07/2025 18:52

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 18:49

Then he can ask his mum??? 😭

I like being a sahm to my dd and it is a lot of work

I never judge working mums but have no idea why people judge sahms and get so angry when a woman is one (not you, just in general)

I am sorry if I made you feel like I was judging you personally. That was not intentional

youreactinglikeafunmum · 26/07/2025 18:52

Robin67 · 26/07/2025 18:52

I am sorry if I made you feel like I was judging you personally. That was not intentional

No i didnt think you were! xx

TealScroller · 26/07/2025 18:55

All of this is nuts, why are a grown woman's parents paying to keep her a SAHM? Why are grandparents buying their adult children's cars? Paying their grandchildren's school fees? Am I missing something here? This is all completely nuts!