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Father in law said he couldn’t come help us because he’d be too FKD

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Starlightbright200 · 20/07/2025 14:35

Hello! I’ve just hashed it out with my father in law but I feel like I need an outsiders perspective to know if I’m being overly sensitive or if this is behaviour to expect.

I recently gave birth to DC 3 a couple of days ago but it was whilst I was pregnant my FIL really pissed me off. My partner and him have a good enough relationship but they’ve definitely had struggles particularly since we’ve had kids. For my partner it highlights his dads absence and lack of support when he’s been really struggling. My MIL who is no longer with FIL is going through chemo and whilst she has always offered support we dont feel it’s fair to take it, knowing that she’s also physically struggling. Her partner is also useless and is a functioning alcoholic so she doesn’t have the best support herself. She is also based really far from us. My mum has helped us the most in the past and I would say she is our main support if we need it but she isnt that close by either, she is also 10-15 years older than my in laws and single. I’ve also found she doesnt actually like having to make the long journey and doesn’t always willingly want to help as she’s older so we try not to ask much. We are actually very self sufficient as we do so much ourselves and pay for nursery and baby sitters if we have the spare money but it’s never to do anything for fun it will literally only be for childcare whilst at work. In fact all of our family support is still just for this. I think in the five years of having kids we’ve been to the cinema once on our parents time. We’ve never done anything else!

My DH missed the birth of DC2 because we didn’t have childcare in place in the middle of the night and because of this we asked my mum to come stay with us until the baby was born 2 weeks before due date. A really big ask but she agreed. 2 weeks pass and we feel like she really needs a rest because she’s been helping out so much around the house whilst I focus on all the childcare and my partner is at work. We really want to give her some respite so we ask FIL if we paid for his train fare (because he’s used cost of travel a reason for not coming in the past and he lives 2 hours away) would he come for the weekend just so my mum can rest and come back. His reply was “sorry I can’t it’s my works end of year do and I will be out eating and drinking all day, sorry it’s not my fault it’s this week” My partner then said well could you just come on the Saturday morning instead and leave Sunday and his response was “sorry I’ll be too FKD” My partner sarcastically said thanks for your help and his FIL said “it’s not my fault it’s on the same day. Don’t wanna fall out with you over this”

Is this normal behaviour to expect? Were we asking too much? I personally was shocked by the order of priorities but also zero offer of an alternative day or week. we said absolutely nothing back.

fast forward to today..
FIL’s wife keeps in touch and asking about the baby but I feel resentful in wanting to share much detail because FIL hasn’t said checked in at all about baby’s arrival. I explained the birth was chaotic, my partner was worried the baby had died and that whilst we were all doing ok the journey here was quite traumatic. I kept asking why FIL still hadn’t called his son despite knowing this information so he sends me a message by way of her instagram saying he hasn’t heard anything for three weeks because he thought we were annoyed at him. I urge him to call his son himself and not talk to me about it. Hours pass and I have enough and call him and we hash it out. He says I’m not the boss of him, he didn’t want to not go to his work outing, he wanted to go to it and he wasn’t not going to go because he has plans. He then says more excuses as to why he won’t come such as I hate London, I hate trains. No one’s going to change me, I’m not gonna be the father he wants so we are never gonna be ok. I was thinking, he literally just wants you to visit!?! What the fuck is he actually asking of you that is so wild. He also said I’m not at your beck and call… this is the only time we asked you to come down and we thought the reason was pretty valid!?

when we go to where he lives, he is hands on with our kids and they really enjoy each others company. But that happens about 4 times a year. there is zero effort ever to put himself out or to come to us.

am I being ubreasonable in thinking he should’ve at least offered an alternative day he could do some heavy lifting instead of a 72 year old woman? Or is this a common mistake to think this way.

OP posts:
ACatNamedRobin · 20/07/2025 14:41

Ok but everyone must think that you're happy enough with the status quo as regards childcare and support, since you're having/have had your third child??

MrBallenIsaFittie · 20/07/2025 14:43

You seem to expect a lot of help from your family.
Why on earth did you need your mother staying with you for two weeks?
Sounds like FIL has got the measure of you and your partner and is ensuring he doesn't get roped in like your mother has been.

swiveleyedtransphobe · 20/07/2025 14:44

Why do you need help? I had 3 kids and never had any help at all, just me and DH, had to get on with it, grandparents were not interested and never babysat

ItsFridayIminLoveJS · 20/07/2025 14:44

Gosh.. im 66.. never ever expected any help.. we just got on with it.. my Mum raised 5 of us and got on with it.. my Aunty raised 9.. her husband worked shifts down the pit...your choice to have 3.. just get on with it.

TomatoSandwiches · 20/07/2025 14:45

Send your poor mum home and get on with being a parent, you chose to have 3, no one is required to help you so much except their other parent.
Why do you need so much help?

Azandme · 20/07/2025 14:45

MrBallenIsaFittie · 20/07/2025 14:43

You seem to expect a lot of help from your family.
Why on earth did you need your mother staying with you for two weeks?
Sounds like FIL has got the measure of you and your partner and is ensuring he doesn't get roped in like your mother has been.

This.

He had a valid reason not to come, he had plans. They involved a late night, and alcohol, so he didn't want to do Saturday morning either.

Help is nice, but you seem to ask for a hell of a lot considering you don't think you ask for much...

Rainbow1235 · 20/07/2025 14:46

As others have said your choice to have 3 children now u just have to crack on with it as we all have to

HiRen · 20/07/2025 14:47

Yes I think you’re being unreasonable. He’s not obligated to facilitate your life choices. It would be nice, but you’re not entitled to him giving up his life choices to ease yours.

Your DH feeling let down by his dad is a separate matter, one that pre-dates your arrival in his life. It’s between them. Stay out of it.

Minnie798 · 20/07/2025 14:47

Sounds like FIL is still working and already had plans for the weekend you wanted him to come and help.
Whether you agree with what those plans were / the importance of them isn't really relevant.

SallyD00lally · 20/07/2025 14:47

Why do you need all this help and then continue to keep having children?

Your poor mother shouldn't need to 'rest up'. She should be able to visit her family without all this work.

Clearly your FIL thinks you're both piss takers.

Sal17690 · 20/07/2025 14:47

I understand why you're annoyed, but also am not sure what your mum had to do so much of if you were looking after the kids whilst your partner was working? Surely with 2 kids and another about to be born the housework can fall down the priorities list?

CarlaLemarchant · 20/07/2025 14:47

Your FIL has done nothing wrong. You don’t need one of your parents there with you, it’s quite unusual.

NicolaCasanova · 20/07/2025 14:49

Your FIL is being totally reasonable.

Pay for childcare if you need it.

making elderly and unwillingly relatives travel long distances is VU.

MrsTerryPratchett · 20/07/2025 14:49

We get no support whatsoever. Because like you, everyone lives a distance away. We have one child. I tried to think about pressuring and guilting FIL to come and help and it was laughable as a thought. It simply wouldn’t occur to me. If your mum is 72, you aren't a very young mum. It would be nice to have family support but not essential. Having lots of kids with none isn’t a choice I would have made.

As an aside, make lots of parent-friends and swap childcare.

AmberSpy · 20/07/2025 14:49

Sorry but, from your FIL's perspective, you've chosen to have three kids. You've also presumably known you were pregnant for a long time before DC3 was born, so you've had plenty of time to get arrangements in place. Why should he drop commitments at the last minute to come and help out?

You need to listen to his actions rather than his words. He is making excuses about trains, cost of travel and whatever else, but his actions are telling you clearly that he's not interested in helping out in the way you want. That's disappointing for you and makes things difficult, but it's his right to control his time and what he does with it. Drop any expectations you have from him going forwards, and try to focus on enjoying time with your DH and kids.

Starlightbright200 · 20/07/2025 14:49

Sal17690 · 20/07/2025 14:47

I understand why you're annoyed, but also am not sure what your mum had to do so much of if you were looking after the kids whilst your partner was working? Surely with 2 kids and another about to be born the housework can fall down the priorities list?

She wasn’t there to do house work specifically she just did to be helpful. She was there because she was the closest family member so if I gave birth in the night my other two would have childcare or at any time really and if we needed school run doing etc. she was there to make sure I wasn’t alone again or that my partner missed it.

OP posts:
Jelly0naplate · 20/07/2025 14:49

Sounds like you're hard work and expect everyone to say 'how high' when you say jump and now you're angry that they put their own plans first.

you've chosen to have 3 kids, you need to get with it yourselves and stop getting annoyed with people not helping.

TheMoonIsWensleydale · 20/07/2025 14:50

Think he just doesn’t want to be involved. Why have a 3rd kid if you can’t cope already?

Bikergran · 20/07/2025 14:51

You are being unreasonable to think FIL is ever going to be any support.

Figgygal · 20/07/2025 14:51

Put this down to hormones OP
you've chosen to have another child it's not for everyone around you to put their lives on stop because of it.
Let your mum go home too it's time to adapt to being a family of 5 without support

pinkdelight · 20/07/2025 14:51

You say you’re independent but you’ve needed constant help to the extent you’re needing FIL to fill in a stint while your mum rests and returns. That’s too much to ask and not normal, surely you can manage without a grandparent around for a while.

Maryberrysaga · 20/07/2025 14:52

YABU. You are expecting too much from people unable/unwilling to give it.

CopperWhite · 20/07/2025 14:52

YABVU.

Ot was you that decided to have your Mum stay, not him, and it’s very selfish of you to think he should miss an event that’s important to him. I’m old enough that if I’m going out celebrating and drinking, there no way I’m planning to entertain small children the day after. Nor should your FIL have to.

SallyD00lally · 20/07/2025 14:52

Starlightbright200 · 20/07/2025 14:49

She wasn’t there to do house work specifically she just did to be helpful. She was there because she was the closest family member so if I gave birth in the night my other two would have childcare or at any time really and if we needed school run doing etc. she was there to make sure I wasn’t alone again or that my partner missed it.

So she was doing your partner's job?

StandFirm · 20/07/2025 14:53

So many posters here are missing the point entirely! Sure, the guy can do what he likes and he doesn't owe his son and DIL anything. It's just that he is choosing to be an utter c**t. That's the point OP is making. Showing some interest in his newborn grandchild surely should be a normal thing. At least you know where you stand @Starlightbright200