To ask what you think about Starmer’s plan to stop the boats?

[WhereIsMyJumper]

I cannot see how his ‘one in one out’ plan is going to help. I also can’t understand why France is cooperating with us. What’s the incentive?

If you don’t agree with this plan, what would your answer be?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ckg6x4g6gg6t

It was a simple question that you’re conveniently evading because it’s impossible to debate with you.

What? It's not me who's evading the question.

The NHS argument is so overused! Nobody has a problem with skilled immigrants who have entered LEGALLY working in the NHS or other much needed professions. My own mother had bowel surgery carried out by a Nigerian specialist.

These skilled immigrants do not cancel out the thousands of illegals entering every week though. Surely you see how this burdening our already over burdened services?

'Given most white men kill almost 3 women a week in the UK, i focus on the real dangers not imaginary ones.' Which white men? White British? White Europeans? Do you understand per capita. Of course white men are committing the majority of crime as we are a white majority country! That doesn't change the fact that immigrants are 3 times more likely to commit rape than British men. That is not an 'imaginary danger' !! It is a fact. And your gaslighting on the matter is not only irresponsible it is outright disrespectful to women.

'Why haven't we put sanctions on France? Do you think it would stop there? who is the junior partner in this relationship? the UK or the EU ?' It seems strange that you think France are able to dish out punishments to us yet we can't do the same. Fuck the EU, they are half the problem.

Asylum seekers do not enter the country illegally. That is the expected way to claim asylum.
you have to be in the country to claim asylum.

Drag them back to the French side whilst in international waters. Like the French do to us.

It's not at breaking point. That's hyperbolic nonsense from the Mail and Express.

You can't just close borders. People will still come and we need immigrants.

Keir Starmer is doing better than the last four Prime Ministers, thank you, he doesn't need to go anywhere.

It is a really poor plan.

They could easily stop the boats if they wanted to. I cant believe they wanted to reduce PIP/benefits yet seem happy to keep funding thus farce of a situation with economic migrants.

French border force demand return of life jackets in migrant handover
The maps that prove French warships are escorting migrants on small boats to UK | UK | News | Express.co.uk
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What's good for the goose....

'People will still come and we need immigrants.' They won't come if they can't come. We don't need immigrants but skilled workers are welcome. A few hundred immigrant doctors don't quite cut the mustard when we have few thousand low skilled non English speaking people arriving illegally every week.

Kier Starmer is worse than Tony Blair and that is quite an achievement.

That he's doing well is a minority opinion. Approval rating is very low.

@BobHamburger - I’m wasting my time, but why do you think we need immigrant men who arrive on boats? And no, they are not all doctors and engineers. When these men are granted leave to stay, do you think they all hot foot it to care homes all crying out for staff?

And why can’t you close borders? Plenty of countries do. Are you in favour of a free for all?

How do you propose the UK closes it's borders? Build a wall around the whole coastline?

Quite a few of the asylum seekers I work with ended up in care homes. They began by volunteering and once given refugee status got jobs.

They come here because we're more likely to accept them and we'll give them loads of benefits.

We don't even bother trying to deport men from places like Afghan as we can't hope to return them, so they stay. And even the ones we refuse they just go down the human rights route with appeals. The asylum system is a waste of our time and money.

The problem is liberal judges. Lawyers are doing their job ultimately.

Remember the fall of Kabul? People clinging to aircrafts.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/afghan-asylum-seekers-and-refugees-in-the-uk/

Much larger countries than here manage it.

How? And how would that apply to the UK?

How do you think they manage it for the vast coast line of Aus?

Pretty much no one gets in.

@User135644 i wonder where the checks and balances on judges comes from there are many questionable seasons made eg handing over children to proven violent and abusive men , low sentences for heinous acts against children the whole lot needs an overhaul and investigating

Ive come to the conclusion there are open boarders posters on here who don't care one jot about the UK , your children my children they don't care about biometrics data being collected or thousands of undocumented young men going into the black market and niether do they worry about the women and children struggling to survive somewhere whilst all the fit men leave.

I can't see anything redeeming there at all.

Allowing this sort of immigration also fuels actual racists causing more problems.

Yes why can’t we

so sick of this never ending immigration

A third of babies born in the UK have at least one parent born outside the UK.
https://www.migrationcentral.co.uk/p/a-record-number-of-births-had-foreign

I'm sure I heard a discussion on Radio 4 in the last day or so - listing the number of children born to foreign born mothers in different cities in the UK but I can't find it now (strangely). But the percentages were very high.
Not an issue in itself but when huge numbers of people come from countries which don't have the same values as us, and where corruption is rife and there is no checks or control it doesn't bode well.

You're assuming anyone who is fed up with immigration is a reform voter. Sorry to burst your bubble, but we're not. Never even voted Tory in my lifetime. Lots of us include ourselves as ' nice, normal decsnt folk' but we're pissed off and sick of the gas lighting that immigration is fantastic and enriching, when we can see with our own eyes what's happening in our towns and cities.. your attempt to shove us all in the right-wing fascist box doesn't work; if anything it'll backfire.

Exactly that I've always wondered who got the juicy contracts for accommodation and food and the profits involved.
Makes you wonder who exactly is milking the system and it's been going on for years it didn't suddenly start a year ago as the Daily mail would have people believe.

They could easily stop the boats if they wanted to.

If it was so easy why is it still happening? Sunak didn’t even try.