To ask what you think about Starmer’s plan to stop the boats?

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I cannot see how his ‘one in one out’ plan is going to help. I also can’t understand why France is cooperating with us. What’s the incentive?

If you don’t agree with this plan, what would your answer be?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ckg6x4g6gg6t

I agree with human rights and saving lives at sea. You obviously don't.

You what now?

Since you think Brexit is a factor why didn’t being in the EU stop that high asylum rate in 2002?

But you want us to be obligated Milo ?

I want the human rights of our citizens put first and then we can save others ,in a safe way for everyone and the actual vulnerable first.

Ok well that’s that idea thoroughly disputed. Fair enough.

What should we do instead?

Are you still ‘loling’ when your numbers are wrong. It’s very low as pp has explained already.

You are the biggest opponent to getting a system that works as well as it does in Aus on each thread.

Why is that? Is it really only due to loyalty to Labour

Because the rate was high everywhere in the EU.

You know, wars have consequences like that.

Are you really saying that Brexit is not a factor in the small boat crossings? If so can you back that up?

You still haven't explained how a Aus style would work here. Where will you build the camps to detain the refugees?

The Milo poster should answer the question - do you believe we should be “obligated” to take any person who decides they want to move here? If they come in a lorry? On a plane?

Do you believe anyone who comes here has the right to housing and benefits?

Should this country welcome foreign criminals?

@EasternStandardAgreed, but that will include dropping the hysteria and lying from the debate, so common on the right.

You constantly bang on about an Australia plan.... You are the biggest advocate, across multiple threads.....is that due to your loyalty to the Tories??

Yet cannot name any country that might be willing....

PND Nauru took 1000s of migrants and had a far smaller "problem" Rwanda was expected to take 5000 over 5 years, less than 2% of all migrant crossings.

I want real world solutions, not wish lists like yours.

Of course as much as you constantly bang on and scoff against it, it is the only system that all voters are happy with, works and won’t change.

It’s just not Labour so you’ll oppose on every thread.

This is worth repeating - many people seem to want to believe that asylum seekers are staying in the kind of hotels people stay in on holiday, so that they can be angry about it.

Some years ago dsis was supply teaching in a school in Kent. New pupils arrived who were clearly not 15/16 and dsis said they were harassing the girls and making lewd faces at her. She reported this to the safeguarding lead who said they had to make cultural allowances. Dsis then went to the head who sympathised but said the same. Dsis was outraged but whaddayado.

And that’s what this whole situation is: whaddayado. Don’t say anything, you’re racist, nothing to see here.

Works?

Where has it worked in Europe? Italy tried it, failed, we tried it, again failed.

It worked for Australia due the economic reliance PNG has, they couldn't say no.

BTW, i once said to you that i would have supported Rwanda had the numbers they would take had been 50% or higher, that was never the case.

therefore, it was unworkable.

Wondering if Milo even lives here?

Yes of course it works, have you looked up their numbers?

So do you think we should carry on accepting thousands of undocumented immigrants without question?

We are not doing that. There is a processing system in place.

Huge backlog as that suited the previous government but questions are being asked.

Where has it worked in Europe?

You didn't answer the question, which is rather telling.

Who has exactly the same in Europe?

Say that first then I’ll answer

That wasn't what I was responding to. I'm not exactly sure what you mean so you'll have to explain.

I believe in saving lives at sea. Under maritime law we have an obligation to help those in our water. What are you suggesting?

Ooooo! we are playing games now!!!

Anyone who has argued, so long for plan X should at least be able to say how it would work and where in practice..... if they cannot, then its just pie in the sky thinking.
As i think we can all see....

Many Govts across Europe have looked at sending migrants to other countries, no one, so far has had any success.

The closest is the EU paying Tunisia and Turkey to set up camps but thats just delaying matters.

No games. Your posts are always as such.

No answer on exactly the same then. That’s why Aus system alone works.

Are you this against it on every thread due to loyalty to Labour?