if I'm totally fed up of people assuming SAHMs are rich and idle?

[bohemianbint]

I am one, because I CAN'T AFFORD TO PUT TWO CHILDREN INTO CHILDCARE.

I did initially go back to work, but got shafted by my boss and am about to take him to court. We are not minted and I don't spend my time watching tv, eating bicuits and buying handbags. More's the pity. I will go back to work my my children are older, for definite, but for now, I'm stuck, whether I like it or not.

I find it hard to believe I'm the only person who can't actually afford to work?

posie: 'I was privvy [sic] to a story (friend is a journalist in the homecounties) that was held because the court date has not come about and it is one of the biggest scandals, due to WOHPs, that an owner of a chain of nurseries was abusing children.'

'due to WOHPs'?

I am not sure I understand how WOHPs can be blamed for this. Am I reading this wrongly?

i have to say that for someone who is secure in her choice, Posie, you sure remember a lot of material out there that justifies your decisions. I don't think I can convincingly cite any studies out there that justify my WOHM, though I might have read them at some point.

Posie, as usually happens on these threads, the working mothers get very defensive. I wonder if it is because they are disappointed that they find they can't have it all.

SAHM get called lazy, bad role models, child-like, spongers, subservient, lacking in ambition..... probably many others that I can't be bothered to go and find. We are supposed to take it.

If you are happy with your choices and your children are thriving then you have made the right choices.

See this is how women get sold down the river. They get told they can't have it all. It's rampant sexism. Of course they can. If they want to ...

'i have to say though using the potential for child abuse as a stick to beat working parents over the head sinks lower than low'

totally agree. Sick.

niecie: 'Posie, as usually happens on these threads, the working mothers get very defensive. I wonder if it is because they are disappointed that they find they can't have it all.'

err, no. you wish, lol!

Plus not only WOHM send their kids to nursery, anyway. And you risk child abuse even if you leave your kids with a babysitter for an evening out with DP...theoretically.

Lots of instances of child abuse, in fact possibly more, happens at home (not saying of course that SAHMs are the cause) . Keeping children at home is no guarantee of safety.

how sad that the same ole half truths,prejudices,urban myths are perpetrated on both sides.

Working Mums - boo Hiss
SAHM - boo Hiss

such scorn, vitriol and derision about someone else's choices. sheesh

i made my individual choice - i am happy

i hope you are happy with yours

end of

I have a lovely family, fab kids, wonderful (and sexy) DH, great career, gorgeous house and am lucky to have the choice to pay school fees. I do feel I've got it all!
So shoot me!!

Bang!

A lot of the 'satanic panics' in the 90s were fuelled by nutters in America wanting to blame everything on WOHMs: all nurseries were full of Satanists and it served all the selfish career bitches right if their DC were abused.

Posie you really are getting it in the neck aren't you? The WOHM lynch mob out in full force. Just to let you know I agree with nearly everything that you have said but I am now taking the decision to step away from these SAHM v WOHM threads because the viciousness from not all but mostly WOHM to SAHM is beyond belief. I tend to try to ignore bad behaviour from my kids so I think I will do that here too.

Just wanted you to know you are not alone.

me thinks both sides dish it equally!no one particular group is more maligned than the other. Even if there is an imbalance one particular night some statistic quoting quasi know-it-all "research" will get cited.

All I can say, as ever when these things degenerate, is what are you all intelligent women doing here sniping at each other about if you each happy with her choices? You are not going to change anybody else's mind, so really why bother? Why do you care what the other "camp" thinks of your choice? BE HAPPY in your own choice, stop trying to convince others of how very right you all are (and let's face it, you can't all be right, can you? (or can you??)) and find something else to do that argue online people you've probably never met.

< I have spoken >

True enough...we need something else to argue about, surely though. Anyone for a '6 month olds eating macdonalds burgers' thread?

Or a "Is it ever acceptable to give your child a Gregg's pasty?" thread.

I ask because caught short today I split one between my 5 year old and my 1 year old. In my defence they were starving and the bus appeared to have disappeared off the face of the earth.

Godzilla- only if liquidised and given in a bottle last thing at night to make the baby sleep through.

AlMummy- I do hope you pinched it from the shop...

i lurve greggs steak bakes

Oh Ham and Cheese Bakes for me.

We didn't nick it, on the contrary I really shelled out and bought a ring doughnut for us to share for afters.

Steak Bake!?!Pah Beefy Bake is a superior product

findtheriver, what a smug post,

"I have a lovely family, fab kids, wonderful (and sexy) DH, great career, gorgeous house and am lucky to have the choice to pay school fees. I do feel I've got it all!
So shoot me!!"

hope nothing comes along ( like real life )to upset your apple cart