if I'm totally fed up of people assuming SAHMs are rich and idle?

[bohemianbint]

I am one, because I CAN'T AFFORD TO PUT TWO CHILDREN INTO CHILDCARE.

I did initially go back to work, but got shafted by my boss and am about to take him to court. We are not minted and I don't spend my time watching tv, eating bicuits and buying handbags. More's the pity. I will go back to work my my children are older, for definite, but for now, I'm stuck, whether I like it or not.

I find it hard to believe I'm the only person who can't actually afford to work?

Well you should Quattro!! Apparently nurseries are riddled with child abusers and childminders are all unlicensed.... course there has been a huge cover up and only posie knows about this.... but now she's blown the cover we'll all have to sack our CMs, close down our nurseries and get back to where we belong in our homes!!

Serious fruiloop I think.

whoops, fruitloop!!

findtheriver, do you patronise people in the workplace too?
1950s references do make you sound very old.

posie please tell us you're really cod. Then we can all just laugh.

Ageism in the workplace - no longer allowed posiparker!

I was privvy to a story (friend is a journalist in the homecounties) that was held because the court date has not come about and it is one of the biggest scandals, due to WOHPs, that an owner of a chain of nurseries was abusing children. Perhaps when and if the stroy does come to the front pages you could stick your accusation up your arse.

She's a little out of touch journey. By about 200 years i think.

How very convenient posie. I'm sure we can all invent some friends who will spout whatever we want to believe

Posie - if you were privvy to a story it should really be a lavatorial story - it just doesn't work otherwise. Was he abusing them in the loos?

(And I hope your journalist 'friend' knows the difference between privy and privvy! Isnt one the shitter!!)

What if neither the father nor the mother works? Is this a serious flameable offense?

lol x posts quattro. We're just too quick for the others! Must be doing our brains good, going to work!!

Oh let's put non-working parents in a box shall we?

Well they are either despicable benefit scroungers or the idle rich.

Or maybe, more tolerantly, they are in the circumstances they are in, and doing the best (presumably) that they can

But really if anyone actually believes that child abuse doesn't take place in EVERY environment is a bit daft. CHild abuse has been rife in the Catholic church - does that mean parents shouldn't use them? It has been rife in the scouts etc? Are you going to send your children to cubs?

Is it a bit off the wall to use that as an argument - the only way to TOTALLY protect your children from every possibility of abuse is keep them at home. Ah but ironically enough, more happens at home than anywhere else. So no luck there either !

Maybe it is statistically better to go to nursery

at findtheriver

Cheers, quattro. Was daring myself to post on this (one of these?) thread(s)

Yes, really convenient that this story is around. Perhaps you need to invent friends, I don't. I don't suppose you saw the documentary about CMs either, it's one I created just to support my position.
I wasn't being ageist I was merely stating that findtheriver seems very old and probably waited until a little later to have her children meaning she had less options about her career, unlike me.

Keep digging posie

You're being illogical and writing nonsense Posie - have you had a little nip? It's been a cold day - best not to post when inebriated

mothers ruin - you need to get out more!

Privy, whoops you must have poured so much effort in that to remember your apostrophe, findtheriver.
Oh dear, yet again WOHMs proving that they have to be insulting in order to defend their position, tut tut. What is it that upsets you so much about women that stay at home?
The references about how safe childcare is was to highlight that I hadn't used them to attack WOHMs, unlike so many of the attacks made about SAHMs. I concede that I have stooped to join the level of debate.
findtheriver and Quattro, you must be very proud of yourselves as going to work suits both of you, I'm not sure you have the empathic skills to stay at home and be responsible for the emotional development of your children.

Oh I wouldnt say you've stooped at all posie - I think you've reached new heights!!!
Have to admit it's been good entertainment though.

I try to keep this debate at an understanding and accepting of all level, most SAHMs do in my experience, but the conceit and arrogance of some women that WOH is astounding. No wonder many women feel they have to work and leave their children when they have no desire, with people like you sitting in judgement it really is such a shame.

Calm down

When it comes to being insulting, posie I think you've doled out a lot more than you've received - possibly because restraint is a skill that has to be practised in the workplace?

You don't or shouldn't need us to validate your lifestyle choices. You tell us that you had the choice to exercise, which is a fortunate position because few women do. Assuming that is true, then why feel insecure about the choice that you exercised? There's no need - you did what (presumably) suited you.

I don't feel insecure, I am at a loss as to why it bothers you all so much. I think you'll find my earlier posts were of the 'everyone does their best and makes the choice that's right for them' slant. It was only through frequent attack about that position that I got defensive.
I was always told that people often attack and criticise things that they are jealous of or have little understanding about.