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To wonder if there'll be a revolt?

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TreatTreat · 09/07/2025 21:21

In the country that's stretched to its limits, today it was announced that Keir has agreed with Mr Macron that just 50 illegal migrants per week will be sent away.

I know so many people are totally fed up with the state of the country.

Will there be protests?

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K0OLA1D · 09/07/2025 21:22

Are you going to start one?

JHound · 09/07/2025 21:24

Can they have their revolt somewhere away from
those of us who don’t want to have to avoid riots on our way to work.

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TreatTreat · 09/07/2025 21:28

K0OLA1D · 09/07/2025 21:22

Are you going to start one?

Nah, I'm not the type. Besides, I'd be running away from my home country if my life was threatened.

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LadyKenya · 09/07/2025 21:29

Maybe any revolt should be about the tiny percentage of people, hoarding most of the wealth, that would at least make sense. I won't hold my breath though.

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TreatTreat · 09/07/2025 21:29

JHound · 09/07/2025 21:24

Can they have their revolt somewhere away from
those of us who don’t want to have to avoid riots on our way to work.

I agree!

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TreatTreat · 09/07/2025 21:30

LadyKenya · 09/07/2025 21:29

Maybe any revolt should be about the tiny percentage of people, hoarding most of the wealth, that would at least make sense. I won't hold my breath though.

Oh, I totally agree. The billionaires.

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millymollymoomoo · 09/07/2025 21:36

There should be.

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TreatTreat · 09/07/2025 21:42

millymollymoomoo · 09/07/2025 21:36

There should be.

I feel it needs to be sorted somehow. As a country, our resources aren't infinite.

I obviously don't think a revolt is the answer, but the government aren't making necessary decisions.

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Whammyyammy · 09/07/2025 21:45

Sadly I think it will happen, maybe not start in uk but across Europe.

Livelovebehappy · 09/07/2025 22:07

Yeayyy. Lots of single men from Syria, Iran and Afghanistan flooding our shores. What could possibly go wrong? Where are their family - wives, mothers, children? Abondoned presumably in those dangerous countries they’ve escaped from. So we already know their values and morals…..

JHound · 09/07/2025 22:13

Whammyyammy · 09/07/2025 21:45

Sadly I think it will happen, maybe not start in uk but across Europe.

Well Europe gave the word the first two world wars so maybe we can go for a hat trick! 😀

coxesorangepippin · 09/07/2025 22:13

Nope

Too comfortable

The French would/have

AmyDuPlantier · 09/07/2025 22:20

Don’t be daft. We don’t revolt against anything.

HelpMeRonda · 09/07/2025 22:40

LadyKenya · 09/07/2025 21:29

Maybe any revolt should be about the tiny percentage of people, hoarding most of the wealth, that would at least make sense. I won't hold my breath though.

The problem is that a revolt which targets the billionaires will just send them and their wealth running abroad to some tax haven.
We need to get every country to sign up to our revolt

Hazelsticksandwillow777 · 09/07/2025 22:42

HelpMeRonda · 09/07/2025 22:40

The problem is that a revolt which targets the billionaires will just send them and their wealth running abroad to some tax haven.
We need to get every country to sign up to our revolt

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The billionaires have already gone!

PrincessofWells · 09/07/2025 22:46

Op you are revolting . . .

ALPS100 · 09/07/2025 22:48

Nah, it's too hot for a revolt

pinkstripeycat · 09/07/2025 22:52

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pinkstripeycat · 09/07/2025 22:57

France is so much bigger than the UK but we have more people than France. Spain is also much bigger and the population there is SO much less than the UK.

We are small and we haven’t got the space. We l certainly don’t have the resources to accommodate more people. Not without those already living here suffering for it.

BallerinaRadio · 09/07/2025 22:58

The rich would love a revolt over this, keep us angry at the boat people so we don't look at them they'll be bloody starting them

JHound · 09/07/2025 23:05

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If I thought the route was unsafe - I would not take my family with me.

I would move and send for them when settled (unless there were literal bombs dropping on their head.) That’s how my grandfather moved, my friend’s family too. Iraqi asylum seekers from
decades ago. Dad got to England. Sent immediately for his wife and infant daughter (my now almost 50 year old friend) later once he was settled / had somewhere to house them.

Also what is the obsession with people passing through safe countries? If I was fleeing I would attempt to reach somewhere that I would feel is best for me, not merely somewhere nearby.

Frostiesflakes · 09/07/2025 23:05

ALPS100 · 09/07/2025 22:48

Nah, it's too hot for a revolt

Yep and in the winter it’s to cold 😂

Screamingabdabz · 09/07/2025 23:09

He may as well just pack up his cabinet and hand it all over to Farage now. This is not ‘controlled’ immigration or even the appearance of it.

SprayWhiteDung · 09/07/2025 23:37

Also what is the obsession with people passing through safe countries? If I was fleeing I would attempt to reach somewhere that I would feel is best for me, not merely somewhere nearby.

I think this just underlines the implication that people are not fleeing in fear of their lives, but rather are purely economic migrants. Or that they began as asylum seekers/refugees, but then essentially morphed into economic migrants, when they figured that they were on the move anyway, so they decided to aim for their most favourite option of all.

I don't blame people at all for wanting to relocate somewhere more western/wealthier/with better healthcare or social security network - it would be a bit convenient for me if I did, when I just happened to be lucky enough to be born in a (very far from perfect but wealthy) western country.

But I think people need to be honest and own their choices. Yes, I'm sure you were a refugee when you fled from Somalia to France; but once you decided to leave France to get to the UK, you became an economic migrant (not that France is a poorer country than us) and you were no longer a refugee or asylum seeker.

By way of analogy, you may well be genuinely very hungry and summarily unable to feed your family, so no reasonable person would begrudge you the ability to use a food bank; BUT if you got to the food bank and then started insisting that you must have top branded food instead of Aldi own-brand, and that they really should be giving you fillet steak instead of meatballs... that's when people would stop having any sympathy for you and begin to see you as nothing more than an opportunist with no need whatsoever of sympathy or charity.

JHound · 10/07/2025 01:21

SprayWhiteDung · 09/07/2025 23:37

Also what is the obsession with people passing through safe countries? If I was fleeing I would attempt to reach somewhere that I would feel is best for me, not merely somewhere nearby.

I think this just underlines the implication that people are not fleeing in fear of their lives, but rather are purely economic migrants. Or that they began as asylum seekers/refugees, but then essentially morphed into economic migrants, when they figured that they were on the move anyway, so they decided to aim for their most favourite option of all.

I don't blame people at all for wanting to relocate somewhere more western/wealthier/with better healthcare or social security network - it would be a bit convenient for me if I did, when I just happened to be lucky enough to be born in a (very far from perfect but wealthy) western country.

But I think people need to be honest and own their choices. Yes, I'm sure you were a refugee when you fled from Somalia to France; but once you decided to leave France to get to the UK, you became an economic migrant (not that France is a poorer country than us) and you were no longer a refugee or asylum seeker.

By way of analogy, you may well be genuinely very hungry and summarily unable to feed your family, so no reasonable person would begrudge you the ability to use a food bank; BUT if you got to the food bank and then started insisting that you must have top branded food instead of Aldi own-brand, and that they really should be giving you fillet steak instead of meatballs... that's when people would stop having any sympathy for you and begin to see you as nothing more than an opportunist with no need whatsoever of sympathy or charity.

How does it underline that fear?

There are Ukranian refugees who fled to the UK but via Ireland and did not claim asylum there? Does that mean they are not really fleeing the Russian invasion?

The whole “why don’t they stop in the first safe country” argument is just a red herring from peoe who don’t want the UK to accept any refugees.

What makes somebody genuine is the circumstances they are fleeing not the fact they have a preferred location for refuge.

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