To wonder if there'll be a revolt?

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In the country that's stretched to its limits, today it was announced that Keir has agreed with Mr Macron that just 50 illegal migrants per week will be sent away.

I know so many people are totally fed up with the state of the country.

Will there be protests?

I'm not saying that we don't need to control our borders. But we also need to focus on the real villains in all of this - the super wealthy.

Can it also be somewhere parents and grandparents arent out with children. I'm in my 70s and id struggle to cope but even worse if I had one of the little GC with me. No problem when I'm with the sporty 20 year old as he could look after me.

The issue is untaxed billionaires, not undocumented migrants.

There are also more crossing

I know people put this forward but I’m wondering how many would apply and how many you’d say yes to?

Well from experience this is proper riot weather. No one wants to riot in cold and rain. Would a revolt have similar rules.

There are a few countries between Somalia and France.

Egypt, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco... Turkey, Greece, Serbia, Albania etc. as well depending on one's route. Or they could go East instead of North (aka to Kenya).

I am aware that I won the lottery of birth when I was born in Western Europe. But the solution to this inequality isn't to allow a select few (because even millions would be few when compared to the population of their various countries of origin) to come here whereas the vast majority of their countrymen (and countrywomen, children etc...) have to stay in warzones, refugee camps etc.

The current situation gives the young, strong and usually those with at least some wealth (Edit: or at least some financial means) a path to Europe. But it does not actually help the vast majority of people affected. It also lines the pockets of smugglers and human traffickers.

Is that too many people being sent away or not enough for your liking?

Billionaires exploit migrants (especially ones without paper) to make more money and to suppress work and living standards.

They go hand in hand.

As I said in my Somalia-France-UK example above, of course the Ukrainians were genuine when they were forced to flee Ukraine - but then it was a case of preference on their part once they got to the safety of Ireland and chose to keep on moving to get to the UK.

Or are you suggesting that Ireland is a devastated, impoverished, dangerous, war-torn country? Millions of people who live there, and all the tourists who choose to visit every year, would very much disagree with that stance.

So many of the population are too fat and lazy to work, they are hardly going to put the effort into a revolt.

They'd need the government to organise it for them, and put on a bus, picking them up at the door.

I live in an area affected by this and yes, I am fed up.
I've lived here my whole life and my home and community are unrecognisable. This isn't about a few asylum seekers integrating into a community. The whole town has changed. There is no community anymore. I don't know if this comment will get my pist deleted but going to the main shopping area now, it doesn't even look like youre in Britain, its literally a take over.
And there is no integrating, they don't want to to. They want their own separate community.

Are you the only white in the village?

Not quite we get another 50 back, with better claim for asylum so no less actually in the country.

Yes it’s a swap. So 50 arriving to replace on top of crossings. Both as a way to enter.

I don't think so. The principal purpose of a riot is that thugs need to upgrade their flat screen TV. A revolution needs more planning, and guillotines. I just don't think there is same appetite for beheading for Charles III as there was with Charles I.

People in this country really are being provoked. There comes a point where something has to give. My home town has been transformed by immigration in the last twenty years. Everywhere I look I see groups of young immigrant men wandering around. A lady I meet when walking my dog even told me she no longer goes into town on her own because she's too scared. My local woods have been cut down and replaced by two giant housing estates, and a second estate has been built at the other end of the village. Now the fields in the centre of the village are being built on as well. The traffic is awful, and I have to time my trips to the shops. In fact, parts of my home town are virtually no go areas on Saturdays. Judging by the languages I've heard spoken, and by what others have told me, I would guess that over half the people who've moved onto those new estates weren't born in the UK. They were born in Nigeria or Somalia or Syria, etc.

But it isn't just the boats. People are coming to the UK via other means. The student visa system, for example, is being exploited. My mother has a friend whose son in law works in university admissions. He said it's just mad – people sign up for courses, come to the UK, and then never show up for registration. They simply disappear. Others come here, do the course, and then never return to their home country. There is a whole industry set up to exploit the immigration and asylum system. You often seen posters round here with things like "need help processing your asylum claim? Call 0800 678997 for a free consultation" etc. People are running rings around the system, and those in power seem to have no will or desire to stop them.

Unless firm action is taken, I could see things reaching a crisis point. This pressure on Europe's borders is only going to intensify. Africa has the highest birth rate in the world, and the African population is going to double. When climate change gets worse, that booming young population is going to head north to Europe.

Maybe but more like passive resistance. Although our civil liberty to protest is being quietly eroded.

Of course not but I'm assuming you dont live in an area where this is happening. Until you do you just won't understand.

Yes, this is the whole point. You would have a preference of where to ultimately end up, after you had fled the danger, but it isn't like it would be your only safe choice.

If you were being attacked in the street and somebody you knew to be trustworthy pulled up in their car and told you to jump in, so they could speed you away from the immediate danger, I highly doubt you would turn your nose up at them and refuse, as you've never been a big fan of Vauxhalls.

Obviously, you wouldn't stay in their car indefinitely - and there would be various options open to you once you were somewhere safe - but you would no longer be a person fleeing danger.

Australia may well be your ideal ultimate destination - and good luck to you on being allowed in, as I understand that they are a lot more 'particular' than we are about who is accepted - but if you had managed to get to, say, Italy, would you really still consider yourself in terrible danger and in fear for your life every moment you were in Naples - just because you hadn't yet reached your goal destination?

I live in the East End. Is that diverse enough for you?

I think that a lot of people are pinning their hopes on Farage/Reform winning the next election and are expecting there to be ICE style snatch squads patrolling the streets and deporting people.

Whereas what’s more likely to happen is the courts will tell Farage he can’t do that so he’ll just sell off the nhs instead to make a load of money for himself and then he’ll fuck off.

I do live an area with the high number of asylum seekers. It was fairly multicultural anyway though. So I never felt threatened by seeing brown and black faces walk down the street.

It’s not my experience at all that asylum seekers want their own separate asylum seekers community. Actually many of them don’t feel any kinship with each other at all because they are from a wide range of countries especially at the moment.

If there aren't, then there should be!
More care form this government for others than for their own people.

Agreed.