Is Pride exempt from public indecency rules?

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DD (aged 14) went into London today with a friend she is staying with. I can only assume friend’s parents didn’t realise it was pride weekend and we don’t live anywhere near London so had no idea.

Aside from the fact that it was a complete ballache getting back out because tube stations were closed, DD said she was shocked at some of the things she saw in terms of arses on display with men just wearing “thongs”.

How is it OK to have such sexualised stuff going on in view of young kids?

Why's everyone referring to it being okay on a beach. Its not a beach. Its central London.
If a man was wandering around Tesco in a thong, would posters still be going 'yeah, but you see it on the beach'.
What do thongs and showing your arse or wearing BSDM or pup gear have to do with accepting and normalising same sex relationships? That's what Pride was supposed to be about.
Pride has become heavily sexualised. Its not what it was. Anyone saying, 'Yes but you see arses on the beach' is just being disingenuous.

Just in the spirit of devil's advocate .... if it was an event celebrating heterosexuality would it be OK to have skimpily clad in scanty clothing behaving in ways that were sexually suggestive. I think probably not tbh

Yes I know love island and all the other reality shows about sex But on the street.

I honestly don't understand why pride is so sexualised as obviously there is a hell of alot more to the lgbtq community than sex and odd blokes showing their bits and bobs off in women's clothes.
Just why ?

From ‘my daughter saw an arse’ to ‘theyre all pedos dontcha know’ in under three pages

I know, but quite frankly, all you have to do is use your eyeballs 😅

Having said that, some Pride parades are actually much more chill and actually are family-friendly. Amsterdam is an absolute love fest, and I'd happily go with my kid. But we're talking about LONDON. SOHO. It's probably the most "out there" march besides New York and LA.

Yes, can someone explain why this kind of thing is so associated with lgbtq events. No event or interest group has this.

THIS. Facepalm. 🙄

It’s a real shame that Pride, an important event, has been appropriated by mentally-ill fetishists.

It's distasteful and unnecessary. Pride was supposed to be about 'being seen' and accepted. Now it's full of straight men masquerading as "lesbians" and gay men shoving their leather chaps and dog chains in kids faces. So a male dominance boundary pushing aggressive fest. Quelle surprise. You're not alone in your disgust.

Yes, sadly too many people have become conditioned into not understanding appropriate behaviour around children.

The people defending the sexualised Drag performances actually aimed at mothers and babies/young children a couple of years ago illustrate that.

Not to mention a widespread and sudden lack of understanding of why we shouldn’t let special men be exempt from normal safeguarding and need to keep men out of spaces where girls are undressed.

And all this in a climate where sexual abuse and rape are ever rising and protections are drastically lagging behind. Normalising men displaying their sexual fetishes in public is not going to help.

Very well said.

Personally, I think it's a knock on effect of the current climate of all things LGBTQ=good (all things heteronormative=the baddies) all things ethnic minority= good. White= baddies. We're all so brainwashed into it that it's a natural knee jerk reaction.

So it’s ok to for Pride to encourage parents to take their kids as it’s ‘family friendly’, only to discover the ‘furry’ fetish stall and the men parading their butt plugs? Are you serious?

There are no warnings of explicit or 18+ behaviour on the website.

So you think it's acceptable for arses to be out at an event that's public and not age censored?

An arse isn't sexual

TV shows don't often blur arses for example

It's an arse

Oh hi 👋🏼.

Can you refute anything I said? Or do you just think it’s ok?

A few years ago we accidentally ended up at trans(?) pride in central London. I can’t quite remember who I was with but we decided to hang out in the area for an hour or so.

I swear I saw four penises. One was an older guy who was working as a waiter (I’m pretty sure it was covid between lockdowns - people could only eat outside?) So there’s some 50-year-old guy, with a push up bra on, but these green neon (can’t remember the group I was with but I can remember a guy wearing green neon shorts…) but they were skin tight and only mesh. Basically mesh/netting covering his arse/dick. You could see the flesh of his hard-on dick.

I’m pretty sure one person in our party was a they/them and that’s why we were hanging out there, and they were like ‘this place is fucking weird let’s go‘.

Also that Holly what’s there name who used to be a weather person(?) who went on big brother(?) was coming out of the same restaurant.

This was in the middle of the day. Also a fair few primary age ‘trans’ kids around the place with their parents.

This is (one of the reasons) why a lot of lesbians no longer attend Pride- too many men who don't know how to behave in public. Or rather, know how to behave, but choose not to.

If Pride is adult-only (which I don't see why it should be: I knew I was a lesbian at the age of 9; lots of gay people now have children), it shouldn't be taking place in the middle of the day in a public place. If it's not adult only, people need to wear some proper fucking clothes.

So a male dominance boundary pushing aggressive fest.

Spot on.

You’re wasting your breath. This is the usual ‘oi you homophobe’, ‘oi you bigot’ crowd that try and shut you up calling you names.

Maybe only in London. My local pride festival has nothing much more than a couple of drag queens , at least during daylight hours. In fact it's my DGS aim to become a drag queen when he's grown up.

But it is all family friendly during the day

Here we go

Nail on the head 👍

I think its fine

I remember taking my estranged sister to pride when we were young and being shocked walking past some men in leather 😭😭

That's living in a city. Same with the recent naked bike ride and the gyrating at Notting hill carnival 🙌🥰

The thing is that these blokes in nappies and butt plugs are using the crowd to get sexually aroused. The audience provides the thrill. To get away with that behaviour in public is another thrill. You are now a part of their sex life, but you haven't consented.